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Originally Posted by phile
The real window is underneath the square looking window.
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Originally Posted by Motohip
Gosh such harsh words. What about the Ford Focus, Taurus, Dodge Neon, Impala, Aztec, etc?
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I assume this will be like the new Civic intro - initial production will come from the current British plant - hence the left hand drive version for now?
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Originally Posted by dom
Hard to believe it won't have a V6. Should be an at least an option IMO. Honda continues to shoot themselves in the foot.
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Impalas aren't ugly. And if you don't like 4-cylinder engines, go somewhere else, they are what Honda is really best at.
RDX has a 4-cylinder powerplant, so don't expect the CR-V to come with any V6 options like the RAV4.
If you have to say "yes it's long," you need to get like, oh, a Nissan.
I am secure with my lack of manly-manness, so I drive a Honda.
Almost all CR-Vs are chick cars. The only exception I ever saw was, interestingly enough, one with a burly guy with a 'SEMPER FI' [Marines] sticker on [of all roads] I-696 [the 'Detroit autobahn']! soooooo :gheylaugh:
RDX has a 4-cylinder powerplant, so don't expect the CR-V to come with any V6 options like the RAV4.
If you have to say "yes it's long," you need to get like, oh, a Nissan.
I am secure with my lack of manly-manness, so I drive a Honda.
Almost all CR-Vs are chick cars. The only exception I ever saw was, interestingly enough, one with a burly guy with a 'SEMPER FI' [Marines] sticker on [of all roads] I-696 [the 'Detroit autobahn']! soooooo :gheylaugh:
#48
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Originally Posted by phile
Don't hold your breath. This is a photochop of what the next CR-V will look like. If the artist got the rear window proportions correct, who knows just how accurate this photochop really is.
#53
Originally Posted by corey415
Have you driven a CR-V? The lack of hp is not really a complaint. Also, the current CR-V fuel economy isn't great; a V6 would make it even worse.
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Originally Posted by biker
Isn't it a given that eventually the CR-V will have the RD-Xs drivetrain?
No need for a V6, in that case.
No need for a V6, in that case.
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Originally Posted by phile
I think at some point, just as the Accord had to eventually comply with the market's demand for a V6 in a family sedan, Honda will have to do so with the CR-V. The RAV4, its main competitor, is jumping into the fray when almost all the other mini-utes already offer a V6 option (Escape, Liberty, Tucson, etc). It's not about the fuel economy or that the CR-V is quite adequate with just the 4-cylinder (we have one in the family); the market demand for a V6 option will leave the CR-V as uncompetitive if it doesn't adapt to the market soon.
In this situation, perspective CR-V buyers who want a v6 can simply buy a Pilot; with the current discounts you can get a FWD LX Pilot for around $23k. And that comes with a third row.
The v6 in the mini-ute category is purely marketing. Same thing with the worthless third row that you can get with the Rav4. I read that Toyota expects 80% of the Rav4 buyers to get the I4.
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Originally Posted by corey415
In this situation, perspective CR-V buyers who want a v6 can simply buy a Pilot; with the current discounts you can get a FWD LX Pilot for around $23k. And that comes with a third row.
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I used carsdirect.com to generate a price quote. Price for 2006 Honda Pilot FWD LX without destination charge in my areacode(94089) is $23200. I just checked the Houston area, the same is $200 more.
Please note that prior to this model year, the Honda Pilot was only available with VTM-4; Honda did not offer a FWD Pilot. Used Japanese SUVs arent cheap on the used market either.
Please note that prior to this model year, the Honda Pilot was only available with VTM-4; Honda did not offer a FWD Pilot. Used Japanese SUVs arent cheap on the used market either.
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Originally Posted by corey415
In this situation, perspective CR-V buyers who want a v6 can simply buy a Pilot; with the current discounts you can get a FWD LX Pilot for around $23k. And that comes with a third row.
The v6 in the mini-ute category is purely marketing. Same thing with the worthless third row that you can get with the Rav4. I read that Toyota expects 80% of the Rav4 buyers to get the I4.
The percentage of people opting for the V6 RAV4 is comparable with other cars offering bigger engines. Acura cites that V8 models for competing vehicles make up only about 15% of sales, hence the RL doesn't warrant a V8. I agree that it's purely marketing...but like the RL, the V6 in the RAV4 something that Honda will need to address with the CR-V to make it "competitive."
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Originally Posted by phile
The percentage of people opting for the V6 RAV4 is comparable with other cars offering bigger engines. Acura cites that V8 models for competing vehicles make up only about 15% of sales, hence the RL doesn't warrant a V8. I agree that it's purely marketing...but like the RL, the V6 in the RAV4 something that Honda will need to address with the CR-V to make it "competitive."
So with that respect, I imagine the CR-V will still be competitive without a v6.
I am not against a v6. I simply think Honda wont put a v6 in the CR-V, and I can see why.
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Originally Posted by Infamous425
some people want a v6 but not the 3 rows of seat in the pilot. honda loses out on this one.
Umm, you can fold the third row seats flat rather easily and leave it like that. So that means more cargo space.
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Originally Posted by corey415
Umm, you can fold the third row seats flat rather easily and leave it like that. So that means more cargo space.
Umm, not everyone wants a suv the size of a pilot either
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Originally Posted by corey415
Here's the difference. The Acura RL is the worst selling car in its class. And it is a relatively new model. The Honda CR-V is actually one of the best selling in it's class, even though it is a lame duck model that will be replaced this year.
So with that respect, I imagine the CR-V will still be competitive without a v6.
I am not against a v6. I simply think Honda wont put a v6 in the CR-V, and I can see why.
So with that respect, I imagine the CR-V will still be competitive without a v6.
I am not against a v6. I simply think Honda wont put a v6 in the CR-V, and I can see why.
I do not think the CR-V will have a V6 either, especially since the RDX doesn't. Besides, the V6 RAV4 puts it in a different price bracket. But I do think it's something Honda might need to consider if Toyota succeeds with it.
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Originally Posted by 95gt
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god the one now is so tiny. I am at a loss as to the point of these mini utes.
god the one now is so tiny. I am at a loss as to the point of these mini utes.
But, it was bigger than most of it s competition which to me anyway was a huge selling point. It had more space than the Escape, Tribute, Rav4(old), Equinox, Liberty, Outlander and X-Trail (Canada only). Making it smaller is IMO retarded, especially considering everything else is getting bigger.
And these mini-utes are huge sellers.
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Originally Posted by Mokijoki
Should have the 2.4L engine as the current TSX/EuroAccord and the diesel option
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Originally Posted by F23A4
If it's meant to compete with the RAV4, I would hope that a J32A4 would be 'optional'.
From all preliminary info, nope just the 2.4 and the possibility of the 2.2L deisel down the road.
Again Honda is playing catch up.
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....it is really a shame when a Saturn Vue can get a J-series but the CRV cannot.
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Originally Posted by dom
I was reading it will be smaller than the current version?
Honda has always been pretty good at finding good packaging methods to make a car that is smaller on the outside but the same size as, or even larger, than an outgoing model on the inside.
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Is it supposed to be smaller on the outside or smaller on the inside?
Honda has always been pretty good at finding good packaging methods to make a car that is smaller on the outside but the same size as, or even larger, than an outgoing model on the inside.
Honda has always been pretty good at finding good packaging methods to make a car that is smaller on the outside but the same size as, or even larger, than an outgoing model on the inside.
From what I've read, interior volume is going from 71 to 61 cubic feet. Its not final info, I think its just rumours. But it does look smaller. We'll see.
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Looks fine to me. I wouldnt worry about its size, its intended audience will still like it.
With the CR-V, Element, Pilot, RDX and MDX.. there are plenty of choices.
With the CR-V, Element, Pilot, RDX and MDX.. there are plenty of choices.
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Originally Posted by 95gt
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god the one now is so tiny. I am at a loss as to the point of these mini utes.
god the one now is so tiny. I am at a loss as to the point of these mini utes.
They just want something that carries four people and the occasional large object in the back with the seats folded.
All while getting nearly 30 MPG with a 4cyl engine.
While comparing the 03 CRV to the 03 RAV4 my wife didn’t like the CRV because it was too long compared to her Integra so we went with the RAV4 instead.
But now they made the new 06 RAV4 15” longer so I won’t be replacing hers with a new one anytime soon.
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I see RDX design influence.