Holden: Commodore News
#81
Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
I do know that, but I'm saying that the American public balked because the Mustang with the V8 was only $25k and the cancelled Camaro/Firebird V8s were both below $30k. To the average American, $30k plus just didn't seem like a good deal.
When you hit 30 to 35 thousand, quite a few people will look at Japanese or German alternatives. Some will even look at a 1 or 2 year old car.
#82
Originally Posted by Ruski
Back a few years ago people in the US looked at Holden Commodores and said the same thing, "bring them over asap".
So GM brought one over as a Pontiac GTO and for some reason a lot of people decided that they didn't like it.
So GM brought one over as a Pontiac GTO and for some reason a lot of people decided that they didn't like it.
perhaps it has to do with the US perception of what a gto should look like, price, etc.
i like the looks of the gto. unfortunately, canadians aren't offered the gto in GM's line-up.
#84
Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
People weren't expecting a $35k asking price, either...
GM interiors are not improving fast enough in North America.
#85
Originally Posted by M TYPE X
World-class cars cost more. People want world-class at Wal-Mart prices!
GM interiors are not improving fast enough in North America.
GM interiors are not improving fast enough in North America.
#87
Originally Posted by biker
#89
Originally Posted by Ruski
Hmmm... More car than a Corvette for about $10K less than a Corvette.
And people were comparing the GTO to the Mustang along with the canceled Camaro and Firebird, none of which cost more than $30k before options.
#90
Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
The GTO is more car than a Corvette??
Seriously though, I wish the GTO had the options available that the Monaro has.
#91
Coming to North America in February...
From Leftlanenews...
General Motors will import the new Holden Commodore to the United States and badge it as a Pontiac, according to Vice Chairman Bob Lutz. He said the car will be unveiled at the Chicago auto show in February. "Come to the Chicago auto show and all we be revealed," Lutz told Australia's Drive magazine yesterday at the Paris Motor Show.
Rumors about such a move have circulated ever since the new Commodore debuted in July. Some reports suggest the car will wear the Grand Prix nameplate, while others indicate it will be called the Pontiac G8. In August, Motor Trend magazine published an illustration on the cover of its October issue of how a Commodore with a Pontiac nose might look (pictured). It's now widely expected the Grand Prix/G8 will essentially look this way.
Rumors about such a move have circulated ever since the new Commodore debuted in July. Some reports suggest the car will wear the Grand Prix nameplate, while others indicate it will be called the Pontiac G8. In August, Motor Trend magazine published an illustration on the cover of its October issue of how a Commodore with a Pontiac nose might look (pictured). It's now widely expected the Grand Prix/G8 will essentially look this way.
#97
Whispers: Holden Commodore Coming to U.S. as Pontiac in 2007
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...cleId=117004#3
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...cleId=117004#3
MELBOURNE, Australia — According to an Australian automotive Web site, a Holden Commodore badged as a Pontiac will be unveiled at the 2007 Chicago auto show.
The new car is reportedly intended to go on sale in the United States later that same year.
The Web site quotes General Motors product chief Bob Lutz speaking at the Paris auto show.
"Come to the Chicago auto show and all will be revealed," he is reported to have said after praising Holden and the new Commodore for being one of "the best vehicles GM has produced."
Speculation has been rife in Australia about Commodores being built in other markets, but nothing has been confirmed to date. GM Holden refused to comment on the report, instead referring any queries to "Mr. Lutz at General Motors Corporation."
However, Lutz's comments appear to confirm rumors that the Commodore could be built in markets such as the U.S., adding a large, rear-wheel-drive car to help revive General Motors' aging vehicle lineup.
If a Pontiac "Commodore" does go on sale in the States next year, it will not be the first time a Pontiac has been spawned from a Holden. Three years ago, Holden exported Monaros to the States as Pontiac GTOs.
What this means to you: GM and Ford both have compelling and interesting products — in other markets. This is part of the effort to bring those to the most lucrative auto market in the world in order to better compete against the ever-strengthening competition.
The new car is reportedly intended to go on sale in the United States later that same year.
The Web site quotes General Motors product chief Bob Lutz speaking at the Paris auto show.
"Come to the Chicago auto show and all will be revealed," he is reported to have said after praising Holden and the new Commodore for being one of "the best vehicles GM has produced."
Speculation has been rife in Australia about Commodores being built in other markets, but nothing has been confirmed to date. GM Holden refused to comment on the report, instead referring any queries to "Mr. Lutz at General Motors Corporation."
However, Lutz's comments appear to confirm rumors that the Commodore could be built in markets such as the U.S., adding a large, rear-wheel-drive car to help revive General Motors' aging vehicle lineup.
If a Pontiac "Commodore" does go on sale in the States next year, it will not be the first time a Pontiac has been spawned from a Holden. Three years ago, Holden exported Monaros to the States as Pontiac GTOs.
What this means to you: GM and Ford both have compelling and interesting products — in other markets. This is part of the effort to bring those to the most lucrative auto market in the world in order to better compete against the ever-strengthening competition.
#100
Originally Posted by bigman
Um....yes. Check out LS1tech and see how many stalled vettes and fbods with less power dominate the manual guys at the track. And i have single handedly handed my friend his ass on numerous occasions after i put in my converter. He used to pull me by a car length instantly in his manual, once i got the stall converter, i was able to flash that bitch to about 4000 rpms, and with the high str i have, the converter would hit hard and fast. Learn about GM autos and stall converters in general, and you will see that although a manual is more efficient at putting power down on a dyno, a stalled auto is more efficient at putting power down on the street. And the street is where it counts, thats why the fastest sbc's and Supras are autos. Stalled th400's and 700r4's to be exact.
There is nothing like the insane torque multiplication produced by a slipping converter. I am really impressed by the 4L65E in the goat, too. I removed torque management just this week with a Predator and this car shifts harder/faster than ANY auto I have ever driven. The shifts aren't quite as fast as the SMG in a M3, but they feel just about as firm. Without T/C on I am chirping the OE rubber from 1-2 and 2-3.
#101
2008 HSV Clubsport R8 20th Anniversary
Oooo...!
Press release...
Press release...
Holden Special Vehicles (HSV) has unveiled two new models, including a special commemorative ClubSport R8 as part of its 20th Anniversary celebrations at the Australian International Motor Show in Sydney today.
Managing Director Scott Grant said the release of a 20th Anniversary ClubSport R8 celebrated the heritage of the luxury and performance car company.
''The birth of HSV and the reveal of the very first VL Group A SS Commodore – commonly referred to as the Walkinshaw – took place at the 1987 Sydney Motor Show. From those humble beginnings, HSV has gone on to produce over 55,000 vehicles and dominate the world of Motorsport,'' Scott Grant said.
''It is only fitting that today we unveil a limited edition model to commemorate the company’s 20th Anniversary,'' he said.
The 20th Anniversary ClubSport R8 is limited to a run of just 100, with a number of unique features including;
-Unique sandstorm colour scheme,
-Unique 20th Anniversary sill plates,
-GTS black accenting,
-Leather performance seats featuring the 20th Anniversary logo and;
-Chrome shadow wheels and brake callipers finished in black and gold.
The model retains the 307kW LS2 V8 engine, performance brake package and aggressive HSV styling that has contributed to the company recording twelve consecutive months of unsurpassed sales success in the company’s 20 year history.
''The company has had an outstanding 12 months, but in typical HSV style we’re looking to the future and making sure we continue to produce products that Australians and the world love to drive,'' Scott Grant said.
The 20th Anniversary ClubSport R8 goes on sale from October at HSV Dealerships across Australia and is priced from $65,990 AUD.
Managing Director Scott Grant said the release of a 20th Anniversary ClubSport R8 celebrated the heritage of the luxury and performance car company.
''The birth of HSV and the reveal of the very first VL Group A SS Commodore – commonly referred to as the Walkinshaw – took place at the 1987 Sydney Motor Show. From those humble beginnings, HSV has gone on to produce over 55,000 vehicles and dominate the world of Motorsport,'' Scott Grant said.
''It is only fitting that today we unveil a limited edition model to commemorate the company’s 20th Anniversary,'' he said.
The 20th Anniversary ClubSport R8 is limited to a run of just 100, with a number of unique features including;
-Unique sandstorm colour scheme,
-Unique 20th Anniversary sill plates,
-GTS black accenting,
-Leather performance seats featuring the 20th Anniversary logo and;
-Chrome shadow wheels and brake callipers finished in black and gold.
The model retains the 307kW LS2 V8 engine, performance brake package and aggressive HSV styling that has contributed to the company recording twelve consecutive months of unsurpassed sales success in the company’s 20 year history.
''The company has had an outstanding 12 months, but in typical HSV style we’re looking to the future and making sure we continue to produce products that Australians and the world love to drive,'' Scott Grant said.
The 20th Anniversary ClubSport R8 goes on sale from October at HSV Dealerships across Australia and is priced from $65,990 AUD.
#104
Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Now they just need to make sure that the car makes it here as the G8 GXP.
And when did you move to Riyadh, biker?
And when did you move to Riyadh, biker?
#105
Originally Posted by biker
3 months ago - lots of Chevys on the road here - tho many are not of the USDM variety. The Lumina and Caprice are Australian models. The smaller sedans are Korean. Lots USDM SUVs - at 60 cents/gal for gas no one worries about gas mileage.
May be in Dubai in a few months so I will get to see it all first hand. Should be an interesting experience if I get to go.
#106
HSV Reveals 40th Anniversary GTS and Senator Signature SV08
From Worldcarfans...
In celebrating 40 years of the GTS badge, Holden Special Vehicles has unveiled a special GTS model at the Australian International Motor Show. The car will be limited to a production run of only 100 units, made in only two colours called Sting Red and Heron White. The GTS comes fitted with ‘40 years of GTS' moniker on brake calipers, sill plate, rear panel and embedded on headrests. Meaning you cannot miss it. HSV sells the GTS for a minimum of AU$80,170.
More exclusive than the GTS is the 50-unit-only HSV Senator Signature SV08. It wears sill plates, more chrome on door handles and side mirrors and exclusive paint-outs, as well as the standard 20-inch Pentagon wheels. Senator Signature SV08 is a direct descendent of the 1988 SV88. The run is divided into 20 manual and 30 automatic models, priced from AU$82,700.
In addition, two brutes in the form of ClubSport R8 Tourer and W427 will make their way into the show floors at the AIMS. Having seen these already, we know the ClubSport R8 Tourer to be the bearer of 317kW of power and 550Nm of torque from the ‘Vette-sourced LS3 powerplant. The second brute is the W427 whose 7.0-litre makes a heady 373kW. Retail price comes in at AU$155,500.
More exclusive than the GTS is the 50-unit-only HSV Senator Signature SV08. It wears sill plates, more chrome on door handles and side mirrors and exclusive paint-outs, as well as the standard 20-inch Pentagon wheels. Senator Signature SV08 is a direct descendent of the 1988 SV88. The run is divided into 20 manual and 30 automatic models, priced from AU$82,700.
In addition, two brutes in the form of ClubSport R8 Tourer and W427 will make their way into the show floors at the AIMS. Having seen these already, we know the ClubSport R8 Tourer to be the bearer of 317kW of power and 550Nm of torque from the ‘Vette-sourced LS3 powerplant. The second brute is the W427 whose 7.0-litre makes a heady 373kW. Retail price comes in at AU$155,500.
#113
Holden HSV GTSR W1 super sedan
GM's defunct divisions always tended to produce their best cars in the last few years of their lives. This was true for Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Saturn and arguably even Saab. Now it's Holden's turn. GM's Australian division will officially cease production in the country, turning to importing and selling other GM vehicles, but not before it says goodbye with an absolute monster of a sedan.
Holden Special Vehicles' GTSR W1 will combine the now-familiar (to us as the Chevrolet SS or PPV, from highway medians in the U.S.) Holden Commodore with an LS9 V8 borrowed from the Chevrolet Corvette ZR1. In HSV's tune, it'll pump out an eye-watering 636 hp and 601 lb-ft of torque courtesy of an air-to-liquid intercooler, a gen-6 supercharger, stainless-steel headers and a few other tweaks. Putting all that power to the ground will be a Tremec TR-6060 six-speed manual gearbox, and we imagine the sedan will actually get some traction in most instances.
Holden had to fit redesigned fenders to house the 20-inch wheels wrapped in track-optimized rubber.
An absurdly beefy engine isn't the only thing the GTSR W1 will feature; HSV has revamped the suspension, brake, tire and wheel setup of the stock Commodore, with suspension specialist Supashock putting in stiffer dampers and springs while adding AP Racing 410 mm front brake rotors for improved stopping power. The W1 Commodore will wear unique 20-inch forged alloy wheels wrapped in Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R tires optimized for the track.
To fit it all in, HSV has redesigned the fenders, manufacturing them out of lightweight plastic with carbon-fiber accents, in addition to designing a new front bumper and rear diffuser for the sedan.
Never mind the engine; we just want these seats. (Are they from the Enterprise-E?)
The bad news, aside from Holden closing its factory doors later this year, is that this engine and suspension setup won't be making it into any stateside Chevy. The good news is this engine and suspension setup won't be making it into any state police Chevy, even though it would make for an amazing purchase at a government auction years from now. We're not sure any police department would have ponied up the dough for one of these anyway; the sticker price is $130,000, and all 295 examples have already been spoken for, even before production begins this April.
It's a shame that Holden is shutting down Australian production, but at least it's going out with a bang.
Read more: Holden HSV GTSR W1 super sedan
GM's defunct divisions always tended to produce their best cars in the last few years of their lives. This was true for Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Saturn and arguably even Saab. Now it's Holden's turn. GM's Australian division will officially cease production in the country, turning to importing and selling other GM vehicles, but not before it says goodbye with an absolute monster of a sedan.
Holden Special Vehicles' GTSR W1 will combine the now-familiar (to us as the Chevrolet SS or PPV, from highway medians in the U.S.) Holden Commodore with an LS9 V8 borrowed from the Chevrolet Corvette ZR1. In HSV's tune, it'll pump out an eye-watering 636 hp and 601 lb-ft of torque courtesy of an air-to-liquid intercooler, a gen-6 supercharger, stainless-steel headers and a few other tweaks. Putting all that power to the ground will be a Tremec TR-6060 six-speed manual gearbox, and we imagine the sedan will actually get some traction in most instances.
Holden had to fit redesigned fenders to house the 20-inch wheels wrapped in track-optimized rubber.
An absurdly beefy engine isn't the only thing the GTSR W1 will feature; HSV has revamped the suspension, brake, tire and wheel setup of the stock Commodore, with suspension specialist Supashock putting in stiffer dampers and springs while adding AP Racing 410 mm front brake rotors for improved stopping power. The W1 Commodore will wear unique 20-inch forged alloy wheels wrapped in Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R tires optimized for the track.
To fit it all in, HSV has redesigned the fenders, manufacturing them out of lightweight plastic with carbon-fiber accents, in addition to designing a new front bumper and rear diffuser for the sedan.
Never mind the engine; we just want these seats. (Are they from the Enterprise-E?)
The bad news, aside from Holden closing its factory doors later this year, is that this engine and suspension setup won't be making it into any stateside Chevy. The good news is this engine and suspension setup won't be making it into any state police Chevy, even though it would make for an amazing purchase at a government auction years from now. We're not sure any police department would have ponied up the dough for one of these anyway; the sticker price is $130,000, and all 295 examples have already been spoken for, even before production begins this April.
It's a shame that Holden is shutting down Australian production, but at least it's going out with a bang.
Read more: Holden HSV GTSR W1 super sedan
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#116
Car production in Australia will come to an end later this week when General Motors shuts down the Holden Commodore production line, after decades in operation. To be clear, Holden is not shutting down completely -- it is merely ceasing car production in Australia. The division will continue to produce cars in Germany and elsewhere for export to Australia. It's a long and indirect journey, which can be said of the decline and death of car manufacturing in Australia itself.
So how did Australia's local car industry fold in such rapid succession, especially at a time when the population of the country and demand for cars seemingly continues to grow?
The answers have more to do with macroeconomics and politics than traditional supply and demand. A major factor cited by multiple industry observers is import tariffs; a tremendous number of different automakers export their cars to Australia paying zero or exceptionally low tariffs. This has permitted automakers that do not produce cars in Australia to fill the market with their vehicles, putting Australian-based automakers at a disadvantage due to relatively high labor costs (compared to Southeast Asia, for example).
Those labor costs are another somewhat predictable factor contributing to the decline of local production. The difference between now and 20 years ago is that a number of Asian countries like Malaysia and Thailand shifted from production for local markets to exports to other countries in the region -- they gained a tremendous competitive advantage due to lower labor costs.
Once a symbol of Australia's car industry, the ute has been losing ground to larger and often cheaper pickups produced in Asia.
Declining sales volumes for the automakers themselves have contributed to the situation. Free trade agreements signed in the past 20 years have allowed greater numbers of cheaper cars into the country, reducing the market share of automakers producing cars locally. That results in a death spiral: A model line has to crank out at least 50,000 vehicles annually to stay afloat, a number of experts have noted. Once sales of a model drop below a certain mark, the critical parts suppliers won't want to continue making parts for a car, assuring a quick death even if a model is still selling a respectable 30,000 units a year.
A number of smaller factors, such as changes in the types of vehicles that Australians buy, has also hastened the decline of Australian car production. The rapid decline of the big V6-engined sedans as the standard family cars nearly 20 years ago, combined with a hike in fuel prices around that time gave a tremendous advantage to other imports coming into the country. Australian automakers adjusted, but ultimately couldn't keep pace with rapidly changing consumer tastes. The arrival of foreign pickup trucks also dented sales of utes -- Australia's longtime favorites -- since trucks offered greater payloads with thrifty diesel engines.
Holden had begun to shift production out of Australia years ago. The 2010 Holden Captiva above, which you may recognize as the sibling of the Chevy Captiva, was produced in South Korea for the Australian market.Australia has all the luck. Not only did they keep El Camino-style runabouts for decades after us in the U.S., now they get a Raptor version of the midsize Ford Ranger pickup, to ...
At the end of this week when the last car rolls out of the Elizabeth plant it will be a Commodore sedan, which has grown from Australia's bread and butter model for decades into a niche performance car. And the Commodore itself is a perfect reflection of the route that the Australian auto industry has taken in the last 20 years, becoming smaller and even more specialized until low volumes took their toll.
The Holden plant will follow the local shutdown of local Toyota Camry production earlier this month. Holden and Toyota were the last two holdouts still making cars on the continent after Ford left a year ago, bowing to market pressures.
Read more: Australian car production ends in October 2017 as manufacturers leave
So how did Australia's local car industry fold in such rapid succession, especially at a time when the population of the country and demand for cars seemingly continues to grow?
The answers have more to do with macroeconomics and politics than traditional supply and demand. A major factor cited by multiple industry observers is import tariffs; a tremendous number of different automakers export their cars to Australia paying zero or exceptionally low tariffs. This has permitted automakers that do not produce cars in Australia to fill the market with their vehicles, putting Australian-based automakers at a disadvantage due to relatively high labor costs (compared to Southeast Asia, for example).
Those labor costs are another somewhat predictable factor contributing to the decline of local production. The difference between now and 20 years ago is that a number of Asian countries like Malaysia and Thailand shifted from production for local markets to exports to other countries in the region -- they gained a tremendous competitive advantage due to lower labor costs.
Once a symbol of Australia's car industry, the ute has been losing ground to larger and often cheaper pickups produced in Asia.
Declining sales volumes for the automakers themselves have contributed to the situation. Free trade agreements signed in the past 20 years have allowed greater numbers of cheaper cars into the country, reducing the market share of automakers producing cars locally. That results in a death spiral: A model line has to crank out at least 50,000 vehicles annually to stay afloat, a number of experts have noted. Once sales of a model drop below a certain mark, the critical parts suppliers won't want to continue making parts for a car, assuring a quick death even if a model is still selling a respectable 30,000 units a year.
A number of smaller factors, such as changes in the types of vehicles that Australians buy, has also hastened the decline of Australian car production. The rapid decline of the big V6-engined sedans as the standard family cars nearly 20 years ago, combined with a hike in fuel prices around that time gave a tremendous advantage to other imports coming into the country. Australian automakers adjusted, but ultimately couldn't keep pace with rapidly changing consumer tastes. The arrival of foreign pickup trucks also dented sales of utes -- Australia's longtime favorites -- since trucks offered greater payloads with thrifty diesel engines.
Holden had begun to shift production out of Australia years ago. The 2010 Holden Captiva above, which you may recognize as the sibling of the Chevy Captiva, was produced in South Korea for the Australian market.Australia has all the luck. Not only did they keep El Camino-style runabouts for decades after us in the U.S., now they get a Raptor version of the midsize Ford Ranger pickup, to ...
At the end of this week when the last car rolls out of the Elizabeth plant it will be a Commodore sedan, which has grown from Australia's bread and butter model for decades into a niche performance car. And the Commodore itself is a perfect reflection of the route that the Australian auto industry has taken in the last 20 years, becoming smaller and even more specialized until low volumes took their toll.
The Holden plant will follow the local shutdown of local Toyota Camry production earlier this month. Holden and Toyota were the last two holdouts still making cars on the continent after Ford left a year ago, bowing to market pressures.
Read more: Australian car production ends in October 2017 as manufacturers leave
#117
Australian car manufacturers are facing the same problems as their American counterparts. General Motors-owned Holden announced it will deep-six the Commodore (pictured) and the Astra in 2020 to focus exclusively on trucks and SUVs. Neither nameplate will spawn a direct replacement.
The announcement hardly comes as a surprise. Holden's current Commodore is a badge-engineered version of the Opel Insignia, which also spawned the second-generation Regal that Buick will retire in the coming months, and it didn't catch on in Australia. The last-generation Commodore was a big, rear-wheel drive sedan available with a V8 engine; it was available in the United States as the Chevrolet SS. Its replacement is smaller, front-wheel drive, and doesn't offer an eight-cylinder option. The smaller Astra available as a sedan and a hatchback is also a badge-engineered Opel.
Opel is no longer part of General Motors, it joined Peugeot parent company PSA Group in 2017, and the two giants are eager to go their separate ways, especially as the latter gets ready to form an alliance with Fiat-Chrysler Automobiles (FCA). Holden also pointed that, like in the United States, the sedan segment is free-falling and hatchbacks were never hugely popular to begin with.
The best-selling car in Australia is the Toyota Hilux, a Tacoma-sized pickup sold in dozens of global markets, and that speaks volumes. The large car segment the Commodore has historically competed in peaked in 1998 with 217,882 sales. That figure is expected to drop to about 8,700 in 2019. Motorist preferences have clearly shifted towards high-riding models, though it's necessary to point out the segment truly began collapsing when Ford and General Motors stopped offering models specifically developed for and made in Australia in 2016 and 2017, respectively.
By the end of 2020, the Holden portfolio will consist of Acadia, the Trailblazer, the Equinox, the Trax, and the Colorado. Those nameplates will likely ring a bell; they're all related to models sold in the United States, though Australia's Colorado is different from ours. Australian enthusiasts seeking a V8 will have the option of ordering the eighth-generation, mid-engined Corvette in right-hand drive form.
The announcement hardly comes as a surprise. Holden's current Commodore is a badge-engineered version of the Opel Insignia, which also spawned the second-generation Regal that Buick will retire in the coming months, and it didn't catch on in Australia. The last-generation Commodore was a big, rear-wheel drive sedan available with a V8 engine; it was available in the United States as the Chevrolet SS. Its replacement is smaller, front-wheel drive, and doesn't offer an eight-cylinder option. The smaller Astra available as a sedan and a hatchback is also a badge-engineered Opel.
Opel is no longer part of General Motors, it joined Peugeot parent company PSA Group in 2017, and the two giants are eager to go their separate ways, especially as the latter gets ready to form an alliance with Fiat-Chrysler Automobiles (FCA). Holden also pointed that, like in the United States, the sedan segment is free-falling and hatchbacks were never hugely popular to begin with.
The best-selling car in Australia is the Toyota Hilux, a Tacoma-sized pickup sold in dozens of global markets, and that speaks volumes. The large car segment the Commodore has historically competed in peaked in 1998 with 217,882 sales. That figure is expected to drop to about 8,700 in 2019. Motorist preferences have clearly shifted towards high-riding models, though it's necessary to point out the segment truly began collapsing when Ford and General Motors stopped offering models specifically developed for and made in Australia in 2016 and 2017, respectively.
By the end of 2020, the Holden portfolio will consist of Acadia, the Trailblazer, the Equinox, the Trax, and the Colorado. Those nameplates will likely ring a bell; they're all related to models sold in the United States, though Australia's Colorado is different from ours. Australian enthusiasts seeking a V8 will have the option of ordering the eighth-generation, mid-engined Corvette in right-hand drive form.
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