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I don't doubt it - the car market is crazy right now -
I think they are doing 250 or 500
I think they are doing 250 or 500
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Why the Ford GT’s Suspension Is Unlike Any Other Supercar’s
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The New Ford GT Makes 647 HP, 550 Lb-Ft, And Tops Out at 216 MPH
With a dry weight of 3054 lbs., the Ford GT's power-to-weight ratio lands somewhere between the McLaren 675LT and the Ferrari 488GTB.full specs:
https://www.scribd.com/document/3374...Specifications
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I can picture srika walking around with his camera just waiting for one of these to drive by.
Too bad that shit's too fast.
Too bad that shit's too fast.
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Official: the Ford GT produces 638bhp and will do 216mph | Top Gear
Over a month after the first production cars rolled off the line, Ford has finally revealed just how fast the new Ford GT is. The answer, somewhat predictably, is very.
We now know that the GT’s 3.5-litre, twin-turbocharged V6 makes a whopping 638bhp at 6,250rpm, and 550lb ft at 5900rpm. Not quite as powerful, nor as torquey, as a Ferrari 488GTB (661bhp, 560lb ft) but close. Really close. A dry weight of 1,385kg puts it within 15kg of the 1,370kg Ferrari, while its top speed of 216mph is a fair bit faster than the Ferrari’s 205mph.
Around Calabogie Motorsports Park, a three-mile track not far from Ottawa, Canada (us neither), Ford claims the GT is a second quicker than the McLaren 675LT (one of the GT’s “primary competitors”, says Ford, alongside the 488) and some three seconds quicker than the mighty Ferrari 458 Speciale. No 0-62mph time yet, but if both the 488 and 675 do it in three or so seconds, we can expect similar from the GT.
If you want to nerd out and look at the full spec sheet, go right ahead. And keep your eyes peeled for our incredibly in-depth look at the GT from this month’s Top Gear magazine, which is set to hit TG.com in the coming days.
In the meantime, amuse yourself by watching the GT enter into ‘Race Mode’ time and time again…
We now know that the GT’s 3.5-litre, twin-turbocharged V6 makes a whopping 638bhp at 6,250rpm, and 550lb ft at 5900rpm. Not quite as powerful, nor as torquey, as a Ferrari 488GTB (661bhp, 560lb ft) but close. Really close. A dry weight of 1,385kg puts it within 15kg of the 1,370kg Ferrari, while its top speed of 216mph is a fair bit faster than the Ferrari’s 205mph.
Around Calabogie Motorsports Park, a three-mile track not far from Ottawa, Canada (us neither), Ford claims the GT is a second quicker than the McLaren 675LT (one of the GT’s “primary competitors”, says Ford, alongside the 488) and some three seconds quicker than the mighty Ferrari 458 Speciale. No 0-62mph time yet, but if both the 488 and 675 do it in three or so seconds, we can expect similar from the GT.
If you want to nerd out and look at the full spec sheet, go right ahead. And keep your eyes peeled for our incredibly in-depth look at the GT from this month’s Top Gear magazine, which is set to hit TG.com in the coming days.
In the meantime, amuse yourself by watching the GT enter into ‘Race Mode’ time and time again…
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Yea I think R&T didn't get their numbers right. The dry weight of the Ford GT is more than both the 675LT and 488.
Here are some numbers to work with:
Price (USD):
Ford GT - $425k
675LT - $354k
488 GTB- $243k
Power:
Ford GT - 647hp
675LT - 675hp
488 GTB- 670hp
Torque:
Ford GT - 550lbft
675LT - 516lbft
488 GTB- 560lbft
Redline:
Power:
Ford GT - 7000rpm
675LT - 8500rpm
488 GTB- 8000rpm
Tranny:
Ford GT - Getrag 7-DCT (same unit as 488 GTB)
675LT - Graziano 7-DCT
488 GTB- Getrag 7-DCT (same unit as Ford GT)
Dry Weight:
Ford GT - 3047lb
675LT - 2706lb
488 GTB- 3014lb
Here are some numbers to work with:
Price (USD):
Ford GT - $425k
675LT - $354k
488 GTB- $243k
Power:
Ford GT - 647hp
675LT - 675hp
488 GTB- 670hp
Torque:
Ford GT - 550lbft
675LT - 516lbft
488 GTB- 560lbft
Redline:
Power:
Ford GT - 7000rpm
675LT - 8500rpm
488 GTB- 8000rpm
Tranny:
Ford GT - Getrag 7-DCT (same unit as 488 GTB)
675LT - Graziano 7-DCT
488 GTB- Getrag 7-DCT (same unit as Ford GT)
Dry Weight:
Ford GT - 3047lb
675LT - 2706lb
488 GTB- 3014lb
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Yea I think R&T didn't get their numbers right. The dry weight of the Ford GT is more than both the 675LT and 488.
Here are some numbers to work with:
Price (USD):
Ford GT - $425k
675LT - $354k
488 GTB- $243k
Power:
Ford GT - 647hp
675LT - 675hp
488 GTB- 670hp
Torque:
Ford GT - 550lbft
675LT - 516lbft
488 GTB- 560lbft
Redline:
Power:
Ford GT - 7000rpm
675LT - 8500rpm
488 GTB- 8000rpm
Tranny:
Ford GT - Getrag 7-DCT (same unit as 488 GTB)
675LT - Graziano 7-DCT
488 GTB- Getrag 7-DCT (same unit as Ford GT)
Dry Weight:
Ford GT - 3047lb
675LT - 2706lb
488 GTB- 3014lb
Here are some numbers to work with:
Price (USD):
Ford GT - $425k
675LT - $354k
488 GTB- $243k
Power:
Ford GT - 647hp
675LT - 675hp
488 GTB- 670hp
Torque:
Ford GT - 550lbft
675LT - 516lbft
488 GTB- 560lbft
Redline:
Power:
Ford GT - 7000rpm
675LT - 8500rpm
488 GTB- 8000rpm
Tranny:
Ford GT - Getrag 7-DCT (same unit as 488 GTB)
675LT - Graziano 7-DCT
488 GTB- Getrag 7-DCT (same unit as Ford GT)
Dry Weight:
Ford GT - 3047lb
675LT - 2706lb
488 GTB- 3014lb
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216!
#411
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Hater comment coming but seeing that Ford already bailed on the limited run, I dont see how its worth $400k+
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I know it can do 216mph when you set to Vmax mode where the car would make the drag much lower by reducing downforce, sort of like the Veyron. Does the 488 GTB or 675LT have such function?
I guess it's mainly for its rarity, which to some, is priceless. If you are a diehard Ford GT fan, then yea it's worth it. But no doubt, the 488 GTB looks like a bargain now. Ford quoted that the GT is faster than the 458 Speciale on their track, I wonder if it's any faster than the 488 GTB. And even if it is, is it any faster than the future 488 track version. It's worthwhile to know that the 488 GTB is 0.5 second faster than the 458 Speciale on Ferrari's Fiorano track (1:23). And the 458 Speciale has semi-slick tires.
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My wife's coworker is on the list. Apparently he keeps getting bumped by celebrities.
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Now, what will Acura do????
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Ford GT Competition
The Ford GT Competition Series is a lightweight track monster | Top Gear
Ford confirms US-only, track-orientated version of its 647bhp supercar
Last month, the Ford GT won the Rolex 24 Hour at Daytona. To commemorate this win - and its racing heritage - Ford has announced a run of lightweight, special edition Ford GTs. Meet the Ford GT Competition Series.
First things first, there isn’t a power increase, but 647bhp from the car’s 3.5-litre turbo V6 - complete with a 216mph top speed - should be plenty for your track needs. What this GT gets instead is a Perspex acrylic engine cover and a carbonfibre prop rod that, says Ford, helps reduce weight near the roof and pushes the balance of weight lower down in the car.
The glass behind the driver too is said to be half as thick and half as light as on the ‘regular’ Ford GT models. As any self-respecting, track-focused lightweight commands, the air conditioning, radio, speakers, storage bins and cupholders have also been removed to save weight.
You also get carbonfibre wheels with titanium nuts and a titanium exhaust. Furthermore, there is a carbonfibre stripe, and exposed carbonfibre lower body trim in a gloss finish.
In fact, there’s quite a bit of carbonfibre dotted around the cabin, too, including on the centre console and door sills. There’s a little plate that covers off the non-existent infotainment stuff, while you also get Alcantara on the seats, instrument panel and headlining.
You want colours? You can’t handle the colours. There are six - black, white, silver, blue, grey and ‘Triple’ yellow, and you’ll be able to see the car in full at this weekend’s Daytona 500 race.
All in, we’re not told just how much lighter this Competition Series GT is over the regular Ford GT, but for your reference, that latter car clocks in at 1,385kg dry (just 15kg off the Ferrari 488’s 1,370kg). So we’d suspect these tweaks would make slightly better use of the GT’s aforementioned 647bhp and 550lb ft of torque.
“The Ford GT has racing in its blood,” explains Ford executive vice president Raj Nair. “The Competition Series was developed with the most hardcore track enthusiasts in mind, providing a tailored set of lightweight features and unique livery to match.”
It’s a US-only limited series, mind, though will be available throughout the GT’s production run. Fancy one?
Ford confirms US-only, track-orientated version of its 647bhp supercar
Last month, the Ford GT won the Rolex 24 Hour at Daytona. To commemorate this win - and its racing heritage - Ford has announced a run of lightweight, special edition Ford GTs. Meet the Ford GT Competition Series.
First things first, there isn’t a power increase, but 647bhp from the car’s 3.5-litre turbo V6 - complete with a 216mph top speed - should be plenty for your track needs. What this GT gets instead is a Perspex acrylic engine cover and a carbonfibre prop rod that, says Ford, helps reduce weight near the roof and pushes the balance of weight lower down in the car.
The glass behind the driver too is said to be half as thick and half as light as on the ‘regular’ Ford GT models. As any self-respecting, track-focused lightweight commands, the air conditioning, radio, speakers, storage bins and cupholders have also been removed to save weight.
You also get carbonfibre wheels with titanium nuts and a titanium exhaust. Furthermore, there is a carbonfibre stripe, and exposed carbonfibre lower body trim in a gloss finish.
In fact, there’s quite a bit of carbonfibre dotted around the cabin, too, including on the centre console and door sills. There’s a little plate that covers off the non-existent infotainment stuff, while you also get Alcantara on the seats, instrument panel and headlining.
You want colours? You can’t handle the colours. There are six - black, white, silver, blue, grey and ‘Triple’ yellow, and you’ll be able to see the car in full at this weekend’s Daytona 500 race.
All in, we’re not told just how much lighter this Competition Series GT is over the regular Ford GT, but for your reference, that latter car clocks in at 1,385kg dry (just 15kg off the Ferrari 488’s 1,370kg). So we’d suspect these tweaks would make slightly better use of the GT’s aforementioned 647bhp and 550lb ft of torque.
“The Ford GT has racing in its blood,” explains Ford executive vice president Raj Nair. “The Competition Series was developed with the most hardcore track enthusiasts in mind, providing a tailored set of lightweight features and unique livery to match.”
It’s a US-only limited series, mind, though will be available throughout the GT’s production run. Fancy one?
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Shawn at TOV mentioned that Road and Track just published an instrumented test of the Ford GT. I haven't seen the article online yet but here are some numbers:
Power: 647hp
Torque: 550lbft
Weight: 3250lb
0-60mph: 3.2s
1/4 mile: 11.1@130mph
Top Speed: 216mph
These are some pretty disappointing numbers for a car with 650hp at just over 3200lb with a price tag of $450k. The $190k McLaren 570S makes 562hp and weighs about the same can do 0-60mph in 2.7s and 1/4 mile in 10.7s@133mph. The likes of Huracan, 911 Turbo (S or not), R8 V10+ can all accelerate faster for a fraction of the price.
And I believe the Ford GT is supposed to go up against the still cheaper 488GTB and 720S,
No idea how it does on a track but it better be seriously good on a track as these acceleration figures are really disappointing....
Power: 647hp
Torque: 550lbft
Weight: 3250lb
0-60mph: 3.2s
1/4 mile: 11.1@130mph
Top Speed: 216mph
These are some pretty disappointing numbers for a car with 650hp at just over 3200lb with a price tag of $450k. The $190k McLaren 570S makes 562hp and weighs about the same can do 0-60mph in 2.7s and 1/4 mile in 10.7s@133mph. The likes of Huracan, 911 Turbo (S or not), R8 V10+ can all accelerate faster for a fraction of the price.
And I believe the Ford GT is supposed to go up against the still cheaper 488GTB and 720S,
No idea how it does on a track but it better be seriously good on a track as these acceleration figures are really disappointing....
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#421
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Shawn at TOV mentioned that Road and Track just published an instrumented test of the Ford GT. I haven't seen the article online yet but here are some numbers:
Power: 647hp
Torque: 550lbft
Weight: 3250lb
0-60mph: 3.2s
1/4 mile: 11.1@130mph
Top Speed: 216mph
These are some pretty disappointing numbers for a car with 650hp at just over 3200lb with a price tag of $450k. The $190k McLaren 570S makes 562hp and weighs about the same can do 0-60mph in 2.7s and 1/4 mile in 10.7s@133mph. The likes of Huracan, 911 Turbo (S or not), R8 V10+ can all accelerate faster for a fraction of the price.
And I believe the Ford GT is supposed to go up against the still cheaper 488GTB and 720S,
No idea how it does on a track but it better be seriously good on a track as these acceleration figures are really disappointing....
Power: 647hp
Torque: 550lbft
Weight: 3250lb
0-60mph: 3.2s
1/4 mile: 11.1@130mph
Top Speed: 216mph
These are some pretty disappointing numbers for a car with 650hp at just over 3200lb with a price tag of $450k. The $190k McLaren 570S makes 562hp and weighs about the same can do 0-60mph in 2.7s and 1/4 mile in 10.7s@133mph. The likes of Huracan, 911 Turbo (S or not), R8 V10+ can all accelerate faster for a fraction of the price.
And I believe the Ford GT is supposed to go up against the still cheaper 488GTB and 720S,
No idea how it does on a track but it better be seriously good on a track as these acceleration figures are really disappointing....
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It's also the same for the Fusion Sport, Fusion Titanium, Fiesta ST, Mustang 2.3T, and Focus ST. There are some "normal" performers with an ecoboost engine like the Ford Edge Sport 2.7T: 315hp, 350lbft, 4400lb that can do 14.2@98mph in the 1/4 mile. But the list of cars that seem to under-perform is quite long....
There can be different reasons. May be Ford is holding back power for the first two gears like TacoBello mentioned. May be they are very sensitive to heat soak and would cut power if conditions are not perfect. I know for Honda, the Civic 1.5T has some sort of built in boost delay when shifting for better fuel economy or something. It's something that a Hondata reflash can fix, but it adds time to those acceleration figures. But for something like the ST, RS, Mustang, or GT, I would think absolute performance is more important than saving fuel like a Civic 1.5T.
For the Ford GT, even the 1/4 mile trap speed is a little disappointing considering it weighs the same as a 570S, but with like 90 more hp.
There can be different reasons. May be Ford is holding back power for the first two gears like TacoBello mentioned. May be they are very sensitive to heat soak and would cut power if conditions are not perfect. I know for Honda, the Civic 1.5T has some sort of built in boost delay when shifting for better fuel economy or something. It's something that a Hondata reflash can fix, but it adds time to those acceleration figures. But for something like the ST, RS, Mustang, or GT, I would think absolute performance is more important than saving fuel like a Civic 1.5T.
For the Ford GT, even the 1/4 mile trap speed is a little disappointing considering it weighs the same as a 570S, but with like 90 more hp.
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If I remember correctly, power was being held back on the FoST in the first couple gears, to limit the fwd wheel spin. I'm sure Ford does the same on other models. It's kind of misleading to see their power numbers then. Also, I'm surprised they would do the same on something like the FoRS. Being AWD and being the sportiest focus model they sell, you'd think they'd let the engine do its thing.
Im sure after market software could fix all of that in a jiffy.
Im sure after market software could fix all of that in a jiffy.
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And yes. Easiest of all. The power difference and drive feel between a stock Focus ST and a tuned one is amazingly large. Torque is much more immediate and the turbo is much more responsive with a simple flash. Ford obviously has made the engine conservative from the factory for various reasons, but it's not difficult to get the most out of it you can, or want to.
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The F150 does it's torque limiting via throttle plate restriction. You don't get 100% WOT in 1st or 2nd gear, according to what I've read on the F150Forum.
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Maybe they should limit torque in 1st and 2nd gear on the V8 Mustangs too
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Is it possible to remove that throttle plate restrictor? I mean, you buy a truck with an advertised, say 350lbft of torque, but you can't access all of it until 3rd gear, well, isn't that kind of being disingenuous? When you're trying to move something big and heavy, you want all the grunt you can in the first gears, to get yourself moving. Especially when you have a lot of weight over the rear axle and therefore a lot of traction. Seems like false advertisement. I'm surprised there hasn't been a class action lawsuit brought forth yet regarding it.
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I also find it ludicrous that Ford would limit the power of their new super car in the first couple gears. The point of a super car is outrageous power. User beware. It's not meant for anyone and everyone. If someone is going to crash it because they mashed it in first gear, well, who's fault is that? Or maybe something needs to be redesigned. Different levels of selectable traction control, I dunno. Limiting power seems counter productive to purchasing a super car in the first place- especially one at this price point.
"we gave it mad power, but you can't access all of it until you're doing 70mph. Instead, you can tell your friends how much theoretical power you have!"
"we gave it mad power, but you can't access all of it until you're doing 70mph. Instead, you can tell your friends how much theoretical power you have!"
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Is it possible to remove that throttle plate restrictor? I mean, you buy a truck with an advertised, say 350lbft of torque, but you can't access all of it until 3rd gear, well, isn't that kind of being disingenuous? When you're trying to move something big and heavy, you want all the grunt you can in the first gears, to get yourself moving. Especially when you have a lot of weight over the rear axle and therefore a lot of traction. Seems like false advertisement. I'm surprised there hasn't been a class action lawsuit brought forth yet regarding it.
I don't know how much it limits & assume it's variable based on conditions. But I also doubt that it's any extreme limitation.
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ya, it kinda defeats the purpose a bit to have 650hp and 3200lb but it can't do 0-60mph in under 3 seconds and 1/4 mile in under 11 seconds...especially when it's $450k.
And data from another thread for the McLaren 720S:
0-10mph: 0.46s
0-20mph: 0.96s
0-30mph: 1.40s
0-40mph: 1.82s
0-50mph: 2.30s
0-60mph: 2.77s
0-70mph: 3.33s
0-80mph: 3.93s
0-90mph: 4.59s
0-100mph: 5.31s
0-110mph: 6.14s
0-120mph: 7.06s
0-130mph: 8.16s
0-140mph: 9.38s
0-150mph: 11.01s
¼ mile 10.19secs @ 146.0mph
IMO that's the sort of acceleration I'd expect for a car in this class, and the McLaren is still cheaper....
And data from another thread for the McLaren 720S:
0-10mph: 0.46s
0-20mph: 0.96s
0-30mph: 1.40s
0-40mph: 1.82s
0-50mph: 2.30s
0-60mph: 2.77s
0-70mph: 3.33s
0-80mph: 3.93s
0-90mph: 4.59s
0-100mph: 5.31s
0-110mph: 6.14s
0-120mph: 7.06s
0-130mph: 8.16s
0-140mph: 9.38s
0-150mph: 11.01s
¼ mile 10.19secs @ 146.0mph
IMO that's the sort of acceleration I'd expect for a car in this class, and the McLaren is still cheaper....
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MUCH cheaper.
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I agree, that in the class of the GT, it makes less sense than in a pickup. Unless there's some known weakness/fault that they are protecting with the torque limiting. No idea.
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Shawn at TOV mentioned that Road and Track just published an instrumented test of the Ford GT. I haven't seen the article online yet but here are some numbers:
Power: 647hp
Torque: 550lbft
Weight: 3250lb
0-60mph: 3.2s
1/4 mile: 11.1@130mph
Top Speed: 216mph
These are some pretty disappointing numbers for a car with 650hp at just over 3200lb with a price tag of $450k. The $190k McLaren 570S makes 562hp and weighs about the same can do 0-60mph in 2.7s and 1/4 mile in 10.7s@133mph. The likes of Huracan, 911 Turbo (S or not), R8 V10+ can all accelerate faster for a fraction of the price.
And I believe the Ford GT is supposed to go up against the still cheaper 488GTB and 720S,
No idea how it does on a track but it better be seriously good on a track as these acceleration figures are really disappointing....
Power: 647hp
Torque: 550lbft
Weight: 3250lb
0-60mph: 3.2s
1/4 mile: 11.1@130mph
Top Speed: 216mph
These are some pretty disappointing numbers for a car with 650hp at just over 3200lb with a price tag of $450k. The $190k McLaren 570S makes 562hp and weighs about the same can do 0-60mph in 2.7s and 1/4 mile in 10.7s@133mph. The likes of Huracan, 911 Turbo (S or not), R8 V10+ can all accelerate faster for a fraction of the price.
And I believe the Ford GT is supposed to go up against the still cheaper 488GTB and 720S,
No idea how it does on a track but it better be seriously good on a track as these acceleration figures are really disappointing....
0-60 3.1
1/4 mile 11.2 @ 124MPH
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And costs 1/3 the price
and you don't have to suck Ford's balls and jack them off in hopes of getting on the list to buy one.
and you don't have to suck Ford's balls and jack them off in hopes of getting on the list to buy one.
#437
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Leave it to Ford to screw this up.
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I also find it ludicrous that Ford would limit the power of their new super car in the first couple gears. The point of a super car is outrageous power. User beware. It's not meant for anyone and everyone. If someone is going to crash it because they mashed it in first gear, well, who's fault is that? Or maybe something needs to be redesigned. Different levels of selectable traction control, I dunno. Limiting power seems counter productive to purchasing a super car in the first place- especially one at this price point.
"we gave it mad power, but you can't access all of it until you're doing 70mph. Instead, you can tell your friends how much theoretical power you have!"
"we gave it mad power, but you can't access all of it until you're doing 70mph. Instead, you can tell your friends how much theoretical power you have!"
Let's see how it does on the track. I haven't followed the Ford GT for a while so not sure if magazines have gotten hot laps yet into tracks....but let's see it's times. IIRC, when the Ford GT is being released there was (maybe still is) a notorious lack of actual numbers from tracks....some speculated it's not as fast as much cheaper super-sportscars......
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10.1 @ 146 mph
Regarding the Ford GT, judging from the early videos, I'm thinking the car's handling performance will more than make up for it's "slowness".
A similar scenario that comes to mind is the C7GS. It has 460 hp and yet somehow is performing far above that hp level. And this is due to the aerodynamics and handling enhancements from the Z06 bodykit.
Regarding the Ford GT, judging from the early videos, I'm thinking the car's handling performance will more than make up for it's "slowness".
A similar scenario that comes to mind is the C7GS. It has 460 hp and yet somehow is performing far above that hp level. And this is due to the aerodynamics and handling enhancements from the Z06 bodykit.
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FWIW, the original McLaren F1 according to Wiki AutoCar test results are
0-60 3.2
1/4 mile 11.05 @ 138
0-60 3.2
1/4 mile 11.05 @ 138