Ford: Fusion News
01-11-2012, 06:03 PM
#321
....where do I sign?
01-11-2012, 11:43 PM
#324
Punk Rocker
After some more thought I'm having concerns about the engine. Only 237hp from the 2.0 liter turbo four when Hyundai/Kia are getting 274hp from their similar engine. I have a feeling this thing is going to be SLOW. Still a looker though....
01-12-2012, 10:23 AM
#325
Team Owner
2013 Ford Fusion is Autoweek's Best in Show winner
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2012...#ixzz1jBhB2viS
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2012...#ixzz1jBhB2viS
Sometimes it's hard to be patient. Usually, we announce the Autoweek Editors' Choice awards for the Detroit auto show during the Autoweek Design Forum, and we will do so for the 2012 show on Thursday, Jan. 12, at noon Eastern.
But here's a head start: The redesigned 2013 Ford Fusion sedan is our pick for Best in Show. We're telling you this early because Ford was so excited that group design vice president J Mays came around on Wednesday to pick up the trophy from Autoweek editor Wes Raynal--and Ford couldn't help but jump for joy in 140 characters on its Twitter site.
Raynal said, "The Ford Fusion bucks the midsize-sedan trend of playing to the broadest common denominator. The Fusion delivers bold styling that projects a more luxurious message than we expected for its broad, family-car mission."
The winners in the remaining three categories--Most Significant, Best Concept and Most Fun--get their time in the spotlight on Thursday. Until then, take your best guess at the winners, and see if your instincts match those of the Autoweek editors.
But here's a head start: The redesigned 2013 Ford Fusion sedan is our pick for Best in Show. We're telling you this early because Ford was so excited that group design vice president J Mays came around on Wednesday to pick up the trophy from Autoweek editor Wes Raynal--and Ford couldn't help but jump for joy in 140 characters on its Twitter site.
Raynal said, "The Ford Fusion bucks the midsize-sedan trend of playing to the broadest common denominator. The Fusion delivers bold styling that projects a more luxurious message than we expected for its broad, family-car mission."
The winners in the remaining three categories--Most Significant, Best Concept and Most Fun--get their time in the spotlight on Thursday. Until then, take your best guess at the winners, and see if your instincts match those of the Autoweek editors.
01-12-2012, 01:13 PM
#327
Senior Moderator
Only 237? They should at least be matching what the competition's V6's and FI 4's are offering.....and it ain't 237, its 270+.
Its the job of the 1.6L to sell volume, just like Honda and Toyota's 4's do.
Its the job of the 1.6L to sell volume, just like Honda and Toyota's 4's do.
01-12-2012, 03:03 PM
#328
Fahrvergnügen'd
Here's my guess, SVT Fusion with 280hp 2.0t Ecoboost. Which is why they have the 237hp version as the normal engine.
01-12-2012, 03:11 PM
#329
Senior Moderator
But those are base engines, the Fusion's base engine is the 1.6L Ecoboost. I agree that as long as it drives well. But it doesn't help marketing, that's for sure. And lets be honest, if Honda had announced the new Accord with those specs we'd be all over them for it.
Would be nice.
Here's my guess, SVT Fusion with 280hp 2.0t Ecoboost. Which is why they have the 237hp version as the normal engine.
01-12-2012, 11:21 PM
#330
Punk Rocker
01-12-2012, 11:44 PM
#331
I drive a Subata.
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Looks very elegant.. 
01-12-2012, 11:46 PM
#332
I drive a Subata.
iTrader: (1)
The 237hp on the entry level is totally fine since there are other engines to choose from. I'd bet the trim with 237hp would sell the most in terms of sale numbers.
01-13-2012, 08:26 AM
#334
Punk Rocker
Yeah, 237hp is not enough for the optional engine IMO when every other competitor is over 270hp. Hopefully they offer an SVT option with a V6 or a more aggressively tuned turbo 4...
01-13-2012, 11:32 AM
#335
Again, without sounding like a SSFTSX apologist, I don't think this is that big a deal. 237/250 is not bad ... It's all how the car drives. If it doesn't feel like it needs 30 more horsepower, no one will miss it. Still better than the 4-cylinder Accord and Camry by 30-50hp.
Here's my guess, SVT Fusion with 280hp 2.0t Ecoboost. Which is why they have the 237hp version as the normal engine.
Here's my guess, SVT Fusion with 280hp 2.0t Ecoboost. Which is why they have the 237hp version as the normal engine.
V6 SE Camry as fast as 8 speed 2013 BMW 328I.
Ford cars have poor aerodynamics and tranmission setup.
01-13-2012, 12:00 PM
#336
The sizzle in the Steak
:ibscreenandairventlocationrantofmadness:
01-13-2012, 12:01 PM
#337
Moderator
01-13-2012, 02:08 PM
#338
01-13-2012, 02:47 PM
#339
אני עומד עם ישראל
Remember when SSFTSX had a hard on for HondAcura you could hang a towel from it? He use to have a hard on for Audi prior to that. Now he flip flopped. This guy is THE definition of a troll.
Kudos to Ford. They produced a real looker with the features and mileage to match!
Kudos to Ford. They produced a real looker with the features and mileage to match!
01-13-2012, 03:37 PM
#340
Senior Moderator
Sorry but he's way too entertaining to ban. How would we know that vents don't belong above navigation screens without SSFTSX? How would we know what cars not to buy based solely on side mirror design? The man is a Encyclopedia of automotive knowledge.
01-13-2012, 05:56 PM
#342
250 lb/ft of torque isn't bad at all. Plus it will probably comes relatively low in the powerband, and it is a base engine after all. At least Ford didn't make the same mistake by making a less powerful engine an optional powerplant (read: pay more for less) like in the Explorer. A more powerful V6 for less than the weaker, more expensive turbo 4-cyl 
01-13-2012, 06:08 PM
#343
The sizzle in the Steak
...the village idiot, although annoying at times, does make you laugh out loud often.....keep the SSFTSX clown around.
01-13-2012, 11:22 PM
#344
I am hoping TSX gets V6/6sp auto for 2013 model year as most of Honda/Acura V6 will be 6speed auto anyway..
01-13-2012, 11:42 PM
#345
http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/car/2007-acura-rdx
VW Passat is V6, Toyota is offering V6. and they are way better than 2.0T Sonata. Acura came to same conclusion by putting V6 in RDX.
Unless you want to put 8speed Auto transmission & Cd of 0.26 in newer Audis like A6/A8/S4 or BMW 3 series. These cars are designed from ground up to be very aerodynamic with proper transmission setup. This level of engineering is not affordable in family sedan.
01-14-2012, 12:33 PM
#346
Sure it looks good, but it's clearly Aston Martin's design. I bet all the Aston Martin owners are rushing to list their cars for sale now. The rear looks like a Maserati Gran Turismo. Not much originality these days.
01-14-2012, 01:16 PM
#347
I drive a Subata.
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You make 2 points and both points are stupid.
Great first post. Yay.
Great first post. Yay.
01-14-2012, 01:36 PM
#348
אני עומד עם ישראל
SSFTSX is multiplying! Quick someone castrate him so he doesn't contaminate the rest of the world! 
01-14-2012, 03:13 PM
#349
01-14-2012, 09:45 PM
#351
My first Avatar....
So let me get this straight. You think the car looks good but criticize it for "not looking original"?I understand your sarcasm regarding AM owners selling their cars. The point of the styling of this car is to entice buyers into Ford dealerships.
I would much rather own a car with good looks than one where I need to wear a blindfold in order to get into it...Yes referring to beak laden cars. oofff
01-14-2012, 11:14 PM
#352
אני עומד עם ישראל
I would have NO shame owning a 2013 Fusion.
Too bad Ford doesn't produce a true sports sedan. MKS wouldn't be bad, but too large and not RWD.
Too bad Ford doesn't produce a true sports sedan. MKS wouldn't be bad, but too large and not RWD.
01-15-2012, 05:11 PM
#353
So let me get this straight. You think the car looks good but criticize it for "not looking original"?
I understand your sarcasm regarding AM owners selling their cars. The point of the styling of this car is to entice buyers into Ford dealerships.
I would much rather own a car with good looks than one where I need to wear a blindfold in order to get into it...Yes referring to beak laden cars. oofff
I understand your sarcasm regarding AM owners selling their cars. The point of the styling of this car is to entice buyers into Ford dealerships.
I would much rather own a car with good looks than one where I need to wear a blindfold in order to get into it...Yes referring to beak laden cars. oofff
In a quest for some originality in design, we all too often end up w/ the "beak" (Acura) or "pinched/predator" grill (Lexus).
01-15-2012, 06:12 PM
#354
01-15-2012, 06:31 PM
#355
E92
the rear is taken from the Mondeo, and they're not the only cars to look like the gran turismo from behind. The sti, with red added to its tail lights, looks exactly like it
And who cares about originality? Good looking is good looking. Hyundai steals plenty of design cues from lexus bmw and mb
And who cares about originality? Good looking is good looking. Hyundai steals plenty of design cues from lexus bmw and mb
01-15-2012, 06:47 PM
#356
01-16-2012, 11:08 AM
#358
Senior Moderator
250 lb/ft of torque isn't bad at all. Plus it will probably comes relatively low in the powerband, and it is a base engine after all. At least Ford didn't make the same mistake by making a less powerful engine an optional powerplant (read: pay more for less) like in the Explorer. A more powerful V6 for less than the weaker, more expensive turbo 4-cyl
Why do you guys keep saying its the base engine? The 1.6 is the base engine. No power figures to the best of my knowledge have been released for it yet.
The 1.6-liter EcoBoost is expected to deliver best-in-class four-cylinder non-hybrid fuel efficiency of 26 mpg in the city and 37 mpg on the highway. The 2.0-liter EcoBoost engine – paired with a paddle-shifted six-speed SelectShift Automatic™ transmission, available 19-inch wheels and tires and all-wheel drive with the ability to send additional torque to the rear – is the Fusion performance option.
01-16-2012, 04:03 PM
#360
^^my bad. I need to read...
Now that, dunno if that'll be enough to motivate a car that big.
Now that, dunno if that'll be enough to motivate a car that big.