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Ford Excursion News **Dumped (page 2)**
Tuesday, October 28, 2003
Excursion may get extended lease on life
By Ed Garsten / The Detroit News
Bashed as a gargantuan gas hog, dubbed the "Ford Valdez" by environmentalists and derided as a menace to motorists driving anything smaller than a semi-truck, the Ford Excursion SUV was condemned to the scrap heap at the end of 2004 model year.
But thanks to sales incentives, a more fuel-efficient diesel engine and a core of loyal customers, Ford Motor Co. may be ready to offer the Excursion a temporary reprieve.
"Since there continues to be a viable market for the product, we are taking a second look at its production schedule," Ford spokeswoman Susan Krusel said.
It's likely Ford will continue to build the Excursion -- launched in 2000 -- for the 2005 and 2006 model year and then introduce a longer version of the current Expedition SUV.
Local Ford dealers say the Excursion is a niche vehicle with a loyal following. Don Sparks, 45, a Shelby Township electrical contractor, bought his second Excursion, a 2004, for its combination of brawn and, ironically, fuel economy.
"With the new diesel, I get close to 18 miles a gallon pulling a trailer," Sparks said. The Sierra Club's Daniel Becker isn't sold on the improvements in fuel economy and emissions a diesel-powered Excursion offers.
"A diesel version of the Valdez is a bad sequel to a bad movie," Becker said.
Excursion may get extended lease on life
By Ed Garsten / The Detroit News
Bashed as a gargantuan gas hog, dubbed the "Ford Valdez" by environmentalists and derided as a menace to motorists driving anything smaller than a semi-truck, the Ford Excursion SUV was condemned to the scrap heap at the end of 2004 model year.
But thanks to sales incentives, a more fuel-efficient diesel engine and a core of loyal customers, Ford Motor Co. may be ready to offer the Excursion a temporary reprieve.
"Since there continues to be a viable market for the product, we are taking a second look at its production schedule," Ford spokeswoman Susan Krusel said.
It's likely Ford will continue to build the Excursion -- launched in 2000 -- for the 2005 and 2006 model year and then introduce a longer version of the current Expedition SUV.
Local Ford dealers say the Excursion is a niche vehicle with a loyal following. Don Sparks, 45, a Shelby Township electrical contractor, bought his second Excursion, a 2004, for its combination of brawn and, ironically, fuel economy.
"With the new diesel, I get close to 18 miles a gallon pulling a trailer," Sparks said. The Sierra Club's Daniel Becker isn't sold on the improvements in fuel economy and emissions a diesel-powered Excursion offers.
"A diesel version of the Valdez is a bad sequel to a bad movie," Becker said.
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I fucking hate that monstrosity
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That's a shame.
I have two of these that park in my lot at work. Ironically, both are driven by women who are only about 5ft tall. I wonder if they attach wooden blocks to their feet to reach the pedals.
I have two of these that park in my lot at work. Ironically, both are driven by women who are only about 5ft tall. I wonder if they attach wooden blocks to their feet to reach the pedals.
10-28-2003, 10:10 AM
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"With the new diesel, I get close to 18 miles a gallon pulling a trailer," Sparks said. The Sierra Club's Daniel Becker isn't sold on the improvements in fuel economy and emissions a diesel-powered Excursion offers.
18 miles per gallon is 18 miles per gallon regardless of what vehicle is getting that mileage.
GD hypocrites.
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10-28-2003, 02:39 PM
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I was on the street once trying to watch a soccer mom try to parallel park that monstrosity. She made like 15 attempts before giving up and pulling away. I just stood there laughing
10-28-2003, 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by charliemike
Meanwhile that jackass drives a 1980 Volvo 240 that emits 90x the smog-producing particulates that the Excursion does.
18 miles per gallon is 18 miles per gallon regardless of what vehicle is getting that mileage.
GD hypocrites.
Meanwhile that jackass drives a 1980 Volvo 240 that emits 90x the smog-producing particulates that the Excursion does.
18 miles per gallon is 18 miles per gallon regardless of what vehicle is getting that mileage.
GD hypocrites.
18 mpg is pretty good. Besides if soccer moms drive them it means they can carry the whole team, which would save on fuel, particulate emissions,etc.Personally, I'm jealous of my next door neighbor who has both a Tahoe and a Hummer H2. I'd love to have either one as a second vehicle. When I bought a tv set from Best Buy I couldn't even carry the thing in my CL-S. Fortunately I still have my LHS. Large vehicles may be big and may not perform especially well but they are very practical and comfortable, especially on long drives.
10-28-2003, 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
I am not sure I've actually seen anyone but women drive em and I have yet to see more than 2 people inside.
I am not sure I've actually seen anyone but women drive em and I have yet to see more than 2 people inside.
But for people to just own them as a daily driver...
But i feel that way about a of the bigger vehicles most people have no business driving.
10-29-2003, 07:44 AM
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Originally posted by EdgarFanCLS
That's a shame.
I have two of these that park in my lot at work. Ironically, both are driven by women who are only about 5ft tall. I wonder if they attach wooden blocks to their feet to reach the pedals.
That's a shame.
I have two of these that park in my lot at work. Ironically, both are driven by women who are only about 5ft tall. I wonder if they attach wooden blocks to their feet to reach the pedals.
10-29-2003, 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by sarlacc23
...for people to just own them as a daily driver...
But i feel that way about a of the bigger vehicles most people have no business driving.
...for people to just own them as a daily driver...
But i feel that way about a of the bigger vehicles most people have no business driving.
BTW: Have you ever looked at the power output, speed, and acceleration of cars in the 1980's? Even a Lambo Countach or Ferrari Testarossa couldn't keep up with today's Camaro SS, Mitsu, EVO, or WRX Sti. BMW used to have a car called the M6 that's no faster than a CL-S. If you look back you'd be amazed at how much faster today's cars are. I'm glad automakers never decided that no one needs a car as fast as my CL-S or any of the other much faster cars out there today.
10-29-2003, 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by SpeedyV6
Back when there was a 55 mph speed limit a lot of people would have felt that we have no business driving cars with 260 hp or that have top speeds of 150 mph. I think you'd agree that most of us feel that's nobody's business but our own.
BTW: Have you ever looked at the power output, speed, and acceleration of cars in the 1980's? Even a Lambo Countach or Ferrari Testarossa couldn't keep up with today's Camaro SS, Mitsu, EVO, or WRX Sti. BMW used to have a car called the M6 that's no faster than a CL-S. If you look back you'd be amazed at how much faster today's cars are. I'm glad automakers never decided that no one needs a car as fast as my CL-S or any of the other much faster cars out there today.
Back when there was a 55 mph speed limit a lot of people would have felt that we have no business driving cars with 260 hp or that have top speeds of 150 mph. I think you'd agree that most of us feel that's nobody's business but our own.
BTW: Have you ever looked at the power output, speed, and acceleration of cars in the 1980's? Even a Lambo Countach or Ferrari Testarossa couldn't keep up with today's Camaro SS, Mitsu, EVO, or WRX Sti. BMW used to have a car called the M6 that's no faster than a CL-S. If you look back you'd be amazed at how much faster today's cars are. I'm glad automakers never decided that no one needs a car as fast as my CL-S or any of the other much faster cars out there today.
Has everything to with size. People that own these vehicles to feel "safer" but dont how to drive them. I cant tell you how many f*cking expedtions, navigators, suburbans, f-150,250,350, dodge rams, hummers, h2s, tahoes, yukons, escalades, etc etc etc
They cant drive them in their own lanes, and when a curve in the comes up, forget about it, parking - they cant. dont look out for blind spots when changing, and feel they own the road cause of their huge truck.
I dont care if you own and drive a big truck when you have the real purpose of using them, but those people that buy them for show and whatever, they need to be decked, and made to take a drivers course for large vehicles.
This is a problem everywhere now, but christ in LA is horrendous.
10-29-2003, 12:41 PM
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Ford Excusion always reminded me of what it would look like if a Ford Econoline Van rear ended the Full Size Ford Truck at high speed.
10-29-2003, 02:16 PM
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the excursion doesn't really bother me. i see the same bad drivers in suvs and trucks that i see in cars and compacts, thats america, no driver skill necessary. i wouldn't buy something that big but have a family member that seems to enjoy buying them for no practical reason, thats their right.
11-01-2003, 01:41 PM
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Some people. 
The 18 mpg was PULLING A TRAILER! The Excursion can haul 12,000 lbs. It's no different than the F250 quad cab. Noone seems to realize how turbo diesels work, esp larger ones like the Ford V8. The diesel Excursion can get 25mpg on the hiway easy, and that 18mpg could be easily had in the city (unless you drive it like your CL hehe). What would you guys purchase to pull your 28ft boat with? Chances are it would be a 250/2500 series truck. The Excursion just tops off the bed. I think extending the Expedition is a joke. That thing is focking horrible, and is built on the F150 frame.
I like the vehicle a ton, and I' glad they are reconsidering getting rid of it. I really would love to have one as a second vehicle. It is a big thing, and I think it's silly to drive it around all the time. I really think soccer moms have given it a bad name. Have any of you guys driven an Excursion or an F250? I have, many times. Quite frankly, they are easy to drive. The problem is people (ahem, soccer moms) talking on cell phones, doing their makeup, etc while driving. It's simply physics. A 9000lb vehicle isn't gonna be as forgiving as a Civic.
One thing Ford does need to do, is get rid of the silly gasoline V8 and V10 options - for both the Excursion AND the F250/350 trucks. Diesel only please.
Oh shit, I just wrote something that was pro-Ford...someone kill me.
I do think Ford has their ducks in a nice row with the F250/350 trucks - and that's what the Excursion is.
The 18 mpg was PULLING A TRAILER! The Excursion can haul 12,000 lbs. It's no different than the F250 quad cab. Noone seems to realize how turbo diesels work, esp larger ones like the Ford V8. The diesel Excursion can get 25mpg on the hiway easy, and that 18mpg could be easily had in the city (unless you drive it like your CL hehe). What would you guys purchase to pull your 28ft boat with? Chances are it would be a 250/2500 series truck. The Excursion just tops off the bed. I think extending the Expedition is a joke. That thing is focking horrible, and is built on the F150 frame.
I like the vehicle a ton, and I' glad they are reconsidering getting rid of it. I really would love to have one as a second vehicle. It is a big thing, and I think it's silly to drive it around all the time. I really think soccer moms have given it a bad name. Have any of you guys driven an Excursion or an F250? I have, many times. Quite frankly, they are easy to drive. The problem is people (ahem, soccer moms) talking on cell phones, doing their makeup, etc while driving. It's simply physics. A 9000lb vehicle isn't gonna be as forgiving as a Civic.
One thing Ford does need to do, is get rid of the silly gasoline V8 and V10 options - for both the Excursion AND the F250/350 trucks. Diesel only please.
Oh shit, I just wrote something that was pro-Ford...someone kill me.
I do think Ford has their ducks in a nice row with the F250/350 trucks - and that's what the Excursion is.
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Ford reverses itself, says it will keep Excursion
By AMY WILSON | Automotive News
DETROIT -- Reversing an earlier decision, Ford Division will keep the Excursion in its lineup.
Ford had said it would drop the Excursion after the 2004 model year.
Environmentalists, who dubbed it the Ford Valdez for its high fuel consumption, cheered the demise of the 19-foot-long SUV.
Now Ford Division President Steve Lyons says the truck will stay at least through the 2005 model year and perhaps beyond. "We'll see after that," Lyons says. "We could go a little longer if we want because it's selling, and we make money selling it. It's pretty simple."
Ford builds the Excursion on a spur line at an assembly plant in Louisville, Ky. That means the Excursion doesn't take volume away from Ford's profitable F-250 and F-350 pickups, which also are assembled at the plant.
Ford sold 26,259 Excursions in 2003, down 9.6 percent from 2002.
Ford offers a $2,500 rebate on gasoline-engine Excursions and $1,500 on diesel-powered Excursions. The diesel Excursion represents about 60 percent of sales and is more fuel efficient, getting about 18 mpg. Ford says the gasoline Excursion gets about 12 mpg.
The Excursion's base sticker price is $37,550, including destination charges.
Diesel and gasoline models will continue for the 2005 model year, a Ford spokesman says. It is possible that production will convert to diesel-only if the Excursion is extended beyond that.
Despite its extended lifespan, the Excursion is unlikely to hang on after Ford introduces a stretched version of its Expedition SUV, which is expected to debut in 2006 as a 2007 model. It will be assembled at Ford's Wayne, Mich., truck plant.
Source: Autoweek
By AMY WILSON | Automotive News
DETROIT -- Reversing an earlier decision, Ford Division will keep the Excursion in its lineup.
Ford had said it would drop the Excursion after the 2004 model year.
Environmentalists, who dubbed it the Ford Valdez for its high fuel consumption, cheered the demise of the 19-foot-long SUV.
Now Ford Division President Steve Lyons says the truck will stay at least through the 2005 model year and perhaps beyond. "We'll see after that," Lyons says. "We could go a little longer if we want because it's selling, and we make money selling it. It's pretty simple."
Ford builds the Excursion on a spur line at an assembly plant in Louisville, Ky. That means the Excursion doesn't take volume away from Ford's profitable F-250 and F-350 pickups, which also are assembled at the plant.
Ford sold 26,259 Excursions in 2003, down 9.6 percent from 2002.
Ford offers a $2,500 rebate on gasoline-engine Excursions and $1,500 on diesel-powered Excursions. The diesel Excursion represents about 60 percent of sales and is more fuel efficient, getting about 18 mpg. Ford says the gasoline Excursion gets about 12 mpg.
The Excursion's base sticker price is $37,550, including destination charges.
Diesel and gasoline models will continue for the 2005 model year, a Ford spokesman says. It is possible that production will convert to diesel-only if the Excursion is extended beyond that.
Despite its extended lifespan, the Excursion is unlikely to hang on after Ford introduces a stretched version of its Expedition SUV, which is expected to debut in 2006 as a 2007 model. It will be assembled at Ford's Wayne, Mich., truck plant.
Source: Autoweek
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Originally posted by gavriil
It is possible that production will convert to diesel-only if the Excursion is extended beyond that.
It is possible that production will convert to diesel-only if the Excursion is extended beyond that.
...introduces a stretched version of its Expedition SUV, which is expected to debut in 2006 as a 2007 model...
01-14-2004, 08:27 AM
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What do you guys have against the Excursion/F250?
What do you guys have against the Excursion/F250?
Too big
One of the ugliest things on the road.
Gets horrible gas mileage.
Most people that drive them don't need a vehicle that big.
Most people who drive them can't drive worth shit.
Takes up too much parking space.
And again too damn big & ugly!!!!
01-14-2004, 04:17 PM
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I like the Excursion. I drove one for 2 weeks on a business trip, twice.
Have you DRIVEN an Excursion?
If I were rich (and only if I was) I would buy one.
You gotta be to afford the gas.
Good thing it was on the company dime.
Have you DRIVEN an Excursion?
If I were rich (and only if I was) I would buy one.
You gotta be to afford the gas.
Good thing it was on the company dime.
12-14-2004, 10:27 AM
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Ford to dump Aviator, Excursion; automaker to cease production after '05 model year - - By AMY WILSON | Automotive News - - Source: AUtoweek
DETROIT -- Ford Motor Co. will kill two of its priciest SUVs after the 2005 model year.
Production of the Ford Excursion, the automaker's biggest SUV, is expected to end in September, according to an internal Ford document.
A supplier source also confirmed the vehicle will be dropped from the lineup next year.
Lincoln Aviator production will end in July, according to the Ford document. Lincoln will revive the nameplate with a car-based SUV in 2006.
The St. Louis assembly plant that produces the Aviator and its sister Ford Explorer and Mercury Mountaineer SUVs is dropping one of its two shifts in January.
Ford officials refused to comment on the demise of the two vehicles.
But the end of the Excursion and Aviator is not surprising.
Ford once said it would drop the fuel-hungry Excursion, a frequent target of environmentalists, after the 2004 model year.
But Ford Division President Steve Lyons this year said that production would continue through at least the 2005 model year.
The decision to end Excursion production comes as Ford seeks production capacity for its F-250 and F-350 Super Duty pickups, a Ford source says. Those pickups and the Excursion are assembled at the same plant in Louisville, Ky.
Also, Ford plans to introduce an extended version of its Expedition SUV during the 2007 model year.
Ford is scheduled to produce 15,277 Excursions in 2005, the internal document said.
Lincoln's Aviator nameplate will return. But Lincoln dealers face a year-long gap without a mid-sized SUV or crossover.
Ford will introduce a next-generation Aviator in fall 2006. It will be derived from a modified Mazda6 car platform. The vehicle is expected to be built at Ford's Oakville, Ontario, assembly plant.
The truck-based Aviator hasn't met sales targets since it was introduced in late 2002. The Ford document said the company plans to produce 12,582 Aviators in 2005.
Production of the Ford Excursion, the automaker's biggest SUV, is expected to end in September, according to an internal Ford document.
A supplier source also confirmed the vehicle will be dropped from the lineup next year.
Lincoln Aviator production will end in July, according to the Ford document. Lincoln will revive the nameplate with a car-based SUV in 2006.
The St. Louis assembly plant that produces the Aviator and its sister Ford Explorer and Mercury Mountaineer SUVs is dropping one of its two shifts in January.
Ford officials refused to comment on the demise of the two vehicles.
But the end of the Excursion and Aviator is not surprising.
Ford once said it would drop the fuel-hungry Excursion, a frequent target of environmentalists, after the 2004 model year.
But Ford Division President Steve Lyons this year said that production would continue through at least the 2005 model year.
The decision to end Excursion production comes as Ford seeks production capacity for its F-250 and F-350 Super Duty pickups, a Ford source says. Those pickups and the Excursion are assembled at the same plant in Louisville, Ky.
Also, Ford plans to introduce an extended version of its Expedition SUV during the 2007 model year.
Ford is scheduled to produce 15,277 Excursions in 2005, the internal document said.
Lincoln's Aviator nameplate will return. But Lincoln dealers face a year-long gap without a mid-sized SUV or crossover.
Ford will introduce a next-generation Aviator in fall 2006. It will be derived from a modified Mazda6 car platform. The vehicle is expected to be built at Ford's Oakville, Ontario, assembly plant.
The truck-based Aviator hasn't met sales targets since it was introduced in late 2002. The Ford document said the company plans to produce 12,582 Aviators in 2005.
and don't come back 
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Don't celebrate too quickly!
Beware the Return of the Living-Dead SUVs! With one stone cold touch they can suck the premium gas life force right out of your cars and leave your cars on the side of the road dead!
Beware the Return of the Living-Dead SUVs! With one stone cold touch they can suck the premium gas life force right out of your cars and leave your cars on the side of the road dead!
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Excursion rocks. 
I think it looks great (so do the trucks). It's a great vehicle for what it's intended for. Not many vehicles can haul 8 people in nice leather seats with 48cu feet of cargo space left and haul an 11,000lb (older engine hauls 12.5Klb, weird) trailer? Suburban is close, but only with the 8.1L engine and increased diff ratio, kiss gas mileage goodbye (5-6).
What they need to do is drop the Excursion V8 and V10 gas versions (same with F250 and F350). They suck - they can't haul as much, get much worse gas mileage, etc. The diesel can get 18-20mpg overall, hauls the most, and sounds better.
I can see why they would want to up production on the super duty trucks though, they sell like hotcakes.
I think it looks great (so do the trucks). It's a great vehicle for what it's intended for. Not many vehicles can haul 8 people in nice leather seats with 48cu feet of cargo space left and haul an 11,000lb (older engine hauls 12.5Klb, weird) trailer? Suburban is close, but only with the 8.1L engine and increased diff ratio, kiss gas mileage goodbye (5-6).What they need to do is drop the Excursion V8 and V10 gas versions (same with F250 and F350). They suck - they can't haul as much, get much worse gas mileage, etc. The diesel can get 18-20mpg overall, hauls the most, and sounds better.
I can see why they would want to up production on the super duty trucks though, they sell like hotcakes.
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Ford Excursion Sinks into History - - Source: The Car Connection
Sierra Clubbers are giving each other high-fives, no doubt, with the end of the Ford Excursion SUV. The last Excursion issues forth from the Louisville, Ky., Ford plant today. At its introduction in 2000, the Sierra Club denounced the goliath ute, dubbing it the Ford Valdez after the Exxon tanker that fouled Alaska's shoreline with millions of gallons of crude oil. Even with its reputation, Ford still sold more than 20,000 Excursions in each year on the market; in the first year the company moved 50,000 of them, 44-gallon gas tank and all. With new chairman Bill Ford at the helm, Ford's about-face into the hybrid market probably will prevent another mammoth Ford SUV from hitting the market - for probably at least 18 months, when a stretched version of the next Expedition is expected to be introduced.
10-03-2005, 03:34 PM
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Excursion....Don't come back anytime soon!
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