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Originally Posted by bl^5
And of course that would mean the death of their two SUV's (Nissan and Infiniti Armada)...
One and DONE. That's a damn shame...
One and DONE. That's a damn shame...
#362
Team Owner
i could careless about those gas guzzlers.... i hope they discontinue all of them.
#363
I feel the need...
Originally Posted by oonowindoo
i could careless about those gas guzzlers.... i hope they discontinue all of them.
#366
My brother had a Titan for a rental and it hauled but god damn did it chug gas! $40 of gas and it wasn't even 3/4 full
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Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
My brother had a Titan for a rental and it hauled but god damn did it chug gas! $40 of gas and it wasn't even 3/4 full
$5/gal gas isn't going to change the minds of people who need full size trucks, but it will change the minds of people who want full size trucks. And people who need full size trucks can care less about how "nice" it is and get the best bang-for-buck, which with rebates, incentives, etc. the domestics have the advantage. And that's not mentioning the fact that most people who need full size trucks are or work with people who prefer domestics.
#368
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I wonder if the Toyota Tundra trucks will go the same way as the Titans ?
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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
I wonder if the Toyota Tundra trucks will go the same way as the Titans ?
Remeber, this isn't the Titan being killed off...it's just Nissan "hedging" to protect itself from the downside in case the market for full size trucks do turn bad by giving most of the investment and risk to Chrysler. Considering how big Toyota is, they can probably take the full risk themselves.
#370
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Cerberus Rues Chrysler Drain as Nardelli Fails to Arrest Losses
Late last Aug. 5, the Sunday after New York buyout firm Cerberus Capital Management LP bought Chrysler LLC, the automaker's public relations team was huddled at headquarters in Auburn Hills, Michigan. First on the list was rewriting speeches to introduce the new top brass.
For chief executive officer, they inserted the name of Robert Nardelli, who'd been a Cerberus consultant since Home Depot Inc.'s board ousted him as CEO in January.
Next, they deleted Wolfgang Bernhard, who'd also been hired as a consultant and was slated to become chairman. During his tenure at Germany's DaimlerChrysler AG, Bernhard, 47, had struggled for four years as chief operating officer to increase Chrysler's production.
Nardelli, 60, gave his Cerberus bosses a different take on their $7.4 billion purchase.
The worst U.S. housing crisis since the 1930s was spilling into car buying. Chrysler, which had survived past struggles thanks to a 1980 federal loan guarantee and Daimler-Benz AG's $36 billion purchase in 1998, needed to face reality and forget about making more cars. The U.S. would be lucky to sell 15.5 million vehicles in 2008, 9 percent fewer than Chrysler's forecast.
Nardelli's bearish assessment helped win him the top job, and Bernhard quit, according to people familiar with the matter.....
For chief executive officer, they inserted the name of Robert Nardelli, who'd been a Cerberus consultant since Home Depot Inc.'s board ousted him as CEO in January.
Next, they deleted Wolfgang Bernhard, who'd also been hired as a consultant and was slated to become chairman. During his tenure at Germany's DaimlerChrysler AG, Bernhard, 47, had struggled for four years as chief operating officer to increase Chrysler's production.
Nardelli, 60, gave his Cerberus bosses a different take on their $7.4 billion purchase.
The worst U.S. housing crisis since the 1930s was spilling into car buying. Chrysler, which had survived past struggles thanks to a 1980 federal loan guarantee and Daimler-Benz AG's $36 billion purchase in 1998, needed to face reality and forget about making more cars. The U.S. would be lucky to sell 15.5 million vehicles in 2008, 9 percent fewer than Chrysler's forecast.
Nardelli's bearish assessment helped win him the top job, and Bernhard quit, according to people familiar with the matter.....
#371
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Late last Aug. 5, the Sunday after New York buyout firm Cerberus Capital Management LP bought Chrysler LLC, the automaker's public relations team was huddled at headquarters in Auburn Hills, Michigan. First on the list was rewriting speeches to introduce the new top brass.
For chief executive officer, they inserted the name of Robert Nardelli, who'd been a Cerberus consultant since Home Depot Inc.'s board ousted him as CEO in January.
Next, they deleted Wolfgang Bernhard, who'd also been hired as a consultant and was slated to become chairman. During his tenure at Germany's DaimlerChrysler AG, Bernhard, 47, had struggled for four years as chief operating officer to increase Chrysler's production.
Nardelli, 60, gave his Cerberus bosses a different take on their $7.4 billion purchase.
The worst U.S. housing crisis since the 1930s was spilling into car buying. Chrysler, which had survived past struggles thanks to a 1980 federal loan guarantee and Daimler-Benz AG's $36 billion purchase in 1998, needed to face reality and forget about making more cars. The U.S. would be lucky to sell 15.5 million vehicles in 2008, 9 percent fewer than Chrysler's forecast.
Nardelli's bearish assessment helped win him the top job, and Bernhard quit, according to people familiar with the matter.....
For chief executive officer, they inserted the name of Robert Nardelli, who'd been a Cerberus consultant since Home Depot Inc.'s board ousted him as CEO in January.
Next, they deleted Wolfgang Bernhard, who'd also been hired as a consultant and was slated to become chairman. During his tenure at Germany's DaimlerChrysler AG, Bernhard, 47, had struggled for four years as chief operating officer to increase Chrysler's production.
Nardelli, 60, gave his Cerberus bosses a different take on their $7.4 billion purchase.
The worst U.S. housing crisis since the 1930s was spilling into car buying. Chrysler, which had survived past struggles thanks to a 1980 federal loan guarantee and Daimler-Benz AG's $36 billion purchase in 1998, needed to face reality and forget about making more cars. The U.S. would be lucky to sell 15.5 million vehicles in 2008, 9 percent fewer than Chrysler's forecast.
Nardelli's bearish assessment helped win him the top job, and Bernhard quit, according to people familiar with the matter.....
#372
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see. as much as i hate american cars. I know they know how to make a decent looking car with a nice interior (euro ford) and they have the ability to make it fuel efficient with good performance.
WHY DONT THEY DO IT? It seems like GM, Dodge and Chevy are coming up with new Failed models every 6 month. I have already lost track of what kind of cars they have.
WHY DONT THEY DO IT? It seems like GM, Dodge and Chevy are coming up with new Failed models every 6 month. I have already lost track of what kind of cars they have.
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Still getting a Challenger. period.
#374
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Still getting a Challenger. period.
#375
how handsome I am
Originally Posted by oonowindoo
see. as much as i hate american cars. I know they know how to make a decent looking car with a nice interior (euro ford) and they have the ability to make it fuel efficient with good performance.
WHY DONT THEY DO IT? It seems like GM, Dodge and Chevy are coming up with new Failed models every 6 month. I have already lost track of what kind of cars they have.
WHY DONT THEY DO IT? It seems like GM, Dodge and Chevy are coming up with new Failed models every 6 month. I have already lost track of what kind of cars they have.
Ford is a little slower on the turnaround, but hopefully that new rumored taurus is on the horizon we saw in the spyshot going around a few months ago.
dodge is definitely in trouble. no doubt about that one... no matter how many grand caravans and rams they pump out.
#377
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GM has seen what could have happened and turned it act around quick, look at the new CTS-V, it's simply amazing, look at the ZR-1, hell look at any GM and you will see it's design, function and quality is great.
Ford has recently seen the light and now is starting to turn around, the new flex is a prime example, it has projector headlamps, navi with gas prices and many more things you would not expect from ford. They have gotten their quality up "supposedly" and are working on new cars and cutting the fat, aka mercury.
Chrysler, saw the light and did the wrong thing to fix it. Their cars are complete crap at this point, their interiors are horrible, the looks are not so great, the features they have aren't the best, and just to sum it up, their competitors are superior. Its no surprise to me that they are broke now and have a very bleak future. Hell, I don't consider is a surprise if they close their doors tomorrow.
There are very few ways to fix what they have done to themselves, and those are pretty big gambles. The least foreseeable one, but the most affective, would be to redesign all current production cars, have better materials and design (borrow some from MB for god's sake), have a better motor (borrow it from MB retards) and have better features (borrow from MB). Essentially, they have the 4 door car for sale, the S-65 AMG in their hands and its counterparts, and they have nothing? Pure Crockpot of shit, they have it and don't know what to do with it.
Ford has recently seen the light and now is starting to turn around, the new flex is a prime example, it has projector headlamps, navi with gas prices and many more things you would not expect from ford. They have gotten their quality up "supposedly" and are working on new cars and cutting the fat, aka mercury.
Chrysler, saw the light and did the wrong thing to fix it. Their cars are complete crap at this point, their interiors are horrible, the looks are not so great, the features they have aren't the best, and just to sum it up, their competitors are superior. Its no surprise to me that they are broke now and have a very bleak future. Hell, I don't consider is a surprise if they close their doors tomorrow.
There are very few ways to fix what they have done to themselves, and those are pretty big gambles. The least foreseeable one, but the most affective, would be to redesign all current production cars, have better materials and design (borrow some from MB for god's sake), have a better motor (borrow it from MB retards) and have better features (borrow from MB). Essentially, they have the 4 door car for sale, the S-65 AMG in their hands and its counterparts, and they have nothing? Pure Crockpot of shit, they have it and don't know what to do with it.
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Originally Posted by csmeance
There are very few ways to fix what they have done to themselves, and those are pretty big gambles. The least foreseeable one, but the most affective, would be to redesign all current production cars, have better materials and design (borrow some from MB for god's sake), have a better motor (borrow it from MB retards) and have better features (borrow from MB). Essentially, they have the 4 door car for sale, the S-65 AMG in their hands and its counterparts, and they have nothing? Pure Crockpot of shit, they have it and don't know what to do with it.
They dont have anything. MB is no longer a part owner in the company anymore, and when they were they did more to hurt chrysler than help.
#380
they need to break the unions.........get rid of people making 100k+ a year assembling cars
get rid of crappy interiors
fix the known supplier issues (a/c compressors that don't last 50K, etc)
get rid of crappy interiors
fix the known supplier issues (a/c compressors that don't last 50K, etc)
#381
Originally Posted by csmeance
GM has seen what could have happened and turned it act around quick, look at the new CTS-V, it's simply amazing, look at the ZR-1, hell look at any GM and you will see it's design, function and quality is great.
only way to know if GM quality is great, is to come back in about 5-7 years and see people say about the cars then...........
my dad's 08 Impala has been in the shop more times than my 6 year old acura.........
#382
Chrysler to cut 1,000 jobs
http://www.wheels.ca/reviews/article/311354
Poornima Gupta
REUTERS
Jul 23, 2008
DETROIT – Chrysler LLC said Wednesday it plans to cut 1,000 white-collar jobs by the end of September to slash costs and survive a deep industry downturn.
The privately held auto maker, controlled by Cerberus Capital Management, also said its liquidity position through June was unchanged from December "as a result of aggressive programs to reduce working capital, the sale of non-core assets, and volume-related manufacturing reductions."
Liquidity concerns for Chrysler have been rising as evidence grows that the downturn in U.S. auto sales that began earlier this year has accelerated in the face of record gas prices and a consumer defection from trucks and SUVs.
Chrysler, which lost $1.6 billion in 2007, has said it ended the year with $9 billion in cash.
Chrysler employees were informed of the latest job cuts through a staff memo sent by Nancy Rae, Chrysler's chief spokesperson and head of human resources.
"To respond to the current market conditions, an incremental manpower reduction of 1,000 salaried employees by September 30, 2008, will be required," Rae said in the memo, according to a company spokesperson.
The job cuts will be achieved through a combination of retirements, special programs and attrition, the company said.
Chrysler, pushing to turn around its operations nearly a year after being acquired by Cerberus, previously said it would close a minivan plant and eliminate one shift at a Dodge Ram truck plant in Missouri to cut excess capacity.
With U.S. auto sales at 15-year lows, Chrysler and larger rivals General Motors Corpand Ford Motor Cohave been forced to expand restructuring plans.
GM detailed plans last week to slash costs by $10 billion through a number of steps, including white-collar job cuts, in a bid to shore up cash, while Ford is the midst of cutting its white-collar employee expenses by 15 per cent.
REUTERS
Jul 23, 2008
DETROIT – Chrysler LLC said Wednesday it plans to cut 1,000 white-collar jobs by the end of September to slash costs and survive a deep industry downturn.
The privately held auto maker, controlled by Cerberus Capital Management, also said its liquidity position through June was unchanged from December "as a result of aggressive programs to reduce working capital, the sale of non-core assets, and volume-related manufacturing reductions."
Liquidity concerns for Chrysler have been rising as evidence grows that the downturn in U.S. auto sales that began earlier this year has accelerated in the face of record gas prices and a consumer defection from trucks and SUVs.
Chrysler, which lost $1.6 billion in 2007, has said it ended the year with $9 billion in cash.
Chrysler employees were informed of the latest job cuts through a staff memo sent by Nancy Rae, Chrysler's chief spokesperson and head of human resources.
"To respond to the current market conditions, an incremental manpower reduction of 1,000 salaried employees by September 30, 2008, will be required," Rae said in the memo, according to a company spokesperson.
The job cuts will be achieved through a combination of retirements, special programs and attrition, the company said.
Chrysler, pushing to turn around its operations nearly a year after being acquired by Cerberus, previously said it would close a minivan plant and eliminate one shift at a Dodge Ram truck plant in Missouri to cut excess capacity.
With U.S. auto sales at 15-year lows, Chrysler and larger rivals General Motors Corpand Ford Motor Cohave been forced to expand restructuring plans.
GM detailed plans last week to slash costs by $10 billion through a number of steps, including white-collar job cuts, in a bid to shore up cash, while Ford is the midst of cutting its white-collar employee expenses by 15 per cent.
#383
The sizzle in the Steak
Chrysler: Exiting Leasing Business
Chrysler plans to drop leasing business
A source says that the automaker plans to get out of the leasing business due to losses on sport utility vehicles, pickup trucks.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/25/auto...g.ap/index.htm
A source says that the automaker plans to get out of the leasing business due to losses on sport utility vehicles, pickup trucks.
DETROIT (AP) -- Chrysler LLC has told dealers that the automaker's financial arm plans to get out of the auto leasing business before the end of the year.
A dealer who asked not to be identified says the reason is that the company has experienced losses on leased sport utility vehicles and pickup trucks because their residual values have dropped.
Chrysler spokesman Stuart Schorr declined to comment on the issue but said Chrysler executives will hold a conference call Friday afternoon.
Word of Chrysler Financial's move comes a day after Ford Motor Co.'s (F, Fortune 500) credit arm took a $2.1 billion charge because of the drop in the residual value of leased vehicles.
The Chrysler dealer did not want to be identified because the company had not made an official announcement.
A dealer who asked not to be identified says the reason is that the company has experienced losses on leased sport utility vehicles and pickup trucks because their residual values have dropped.
Chrysler spokesman Stuart Schorr declined to comment on the issue but said Chrysler executives will hold a conference call Friday afternoon.
Word of Chrysler Financial's move comes a day after Ford Motor Co.'s (F, Fortune 500) credit arm took a $2.1 billion charge because of the drop in the residual value of leased vehicles.
The Chrysler dealer did not want to be identified because the company had not made an official announcement.
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Originally Posted by chill_dog
Who would get a Chrysler, let alone lease one?
However, I dont see this company being around long.
#388
Originally Posted by dom
They should get out of the business period.
There's something there, they just don't know how to put a good outside, with a good inside with a proper power train. They have the first one, but can't figure out how to add the last two with it.
#389
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Still see lotsa Dodge and Jeeps on the road...?
#391
an asshole from florida
Originally Posted by Yumchah
Still see lotsa Dodge and Jeeps on the road...?
#392
Go Giants
Leasing sucks anyways...
#393
Originally Posted by chill_dog
Who would get a Chrysler, let alone lease one?
it's between a Ram or a Sierra 1 ton.
#395
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More on this via Report on Business...
Chrysler LLC's financial arm Friday said it would stop offering vehicle leases to U.S. consumers, a sharp break in strategy in response to plunging resale prices for gas-guzzling trucks and tighter credit.
“We are shifting our strategy to focus on retail products,” said spokesman Bill Porter. “Effective August 1, we will no longer offer lease products in the United States.”
Mr. Porter said the move by the unit of the No. 3 U.S. auto maker, which is controlled by private equity firm Cerberus Capital Management, was prompted by the tough market conditions.
Chrysler Canada Inc. spokesman Jack Sulymka said the announcement does not apply in Canada.
“They have their incentive strategy, we have our incentive strategy,” he said. “Our incentive strategy remains unchanged from the program we announced July 2.”
“It's two separate marketplaces. When we set up our incentive strategy for Canada it's basically based on the buying practice of Canadian consumers and what Canadians want. We're 23 months year-over-year increase as far as sales go in Canada, and we're very proud of that statistic. We've got a product lineup that caters to that. And part and parcel with that product offering is an incentive strategy that goes along to support it, too.”
U.S. auto sales have dropped to their lowest level in 15 years, and the sudden premium on fuel-efficiency in the face of record gasoline prices has forced consumers to abandon SUVs and other light trucks.
The result has been a sharp decline in the resale prices for light trucks that has forced major auto makers and related lenders to take large losses to write down the value of leases on those once-popular vehicles.
“You have got the dropping of the used car vehicle prices. You have got people that are struggling with the credit crunch,” Mr. Porter said. “It is very difficult right now to offer competitive lease products. So we are switching our strategy.”
Chrysler's larger rival Ford Motor Co. this week took a $2.1-billion (U.S.) charge for its finance company when it reported second-quarter results, in large part because of the hit it took on the declining value of SUV and truck leases.
Nissan Motor Co. Ltd. chief executive officer Carlos Ghosn said this week that the reserves needed to cover losses on vehicle leases had been the one major surprise of the downturn for the Japanese auto maker.
“We are shifting our strategy to focus on retail products,” said spokesman Bill Porter. “Effective August 1, we will no longer offer lease products in the United States.”
Mr. Porter said the move by the unit of the No. 3 U.S. auto maker, which is controlled by private equity firm Cerberus Capital Management, was prompted by the tough market conditions.
Chrysler Canada Inc. spokesman Jack Sulymka said the announcement does not apply in Canada.
“They have their incentive strategy, we have our incentive strategy,” he said. “Our incentive strategy remains unchanged from the program we announced July 2.”
“It's two separate marketplaces. When we set up our incentive strategy for Canada it's basically based on the buying practice of Canadian consumers and what Canadians want. We're 23 months year-over-year increase as far as sales go in Canada, and we're very proud of that statistic. We've got a product lineup that caters to that. And part and parcel with that product offering is an incentive strategy that goes along to support it, too.”
U.S. auto sales have dropped to their lowest level in 15 years, and the sudden premium on fuel-efficiency in the face of record gasoline prices has forced consumers to abandon SUVs and other light trucks.
The result has been a sharp decline in the resale prices for light trucks that has forced major auto makers and related lenders to take large losses to write down the value of leases on those once-popular vehicles.
“You have got the dropping of the used car vehicle prices. You have got people that are struggling with the credit crunch,” Mr. Porter said. “It is very difficult right now to offer competitive lease products. So we are switching our strategy.”
Chrysler's larger rival Ford Motor Co. this week took a $2.1-billion (U.S.) charge for its finance company when it reported second-quarter results, in large part because of the hit it took on the declining value of SUV and truck leases.
Nissan Motor Co. Ltd. chief executive officer Carlos Ghosn said this week that the reserves needed to cover losses on vehicle leases had been the one major surprise of the downturn for the Japanese auto maker.
#396
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havent read all the quotables...nor am i finance savvy...
but does this mean that the company is so unstable that they cannot determine a proper 36 mo devalue projection to figure out if they could yeild a profit on a lease??
but does this mean that the company is so unstable that they cannot determine a proper 36 mo devalue projection to figure out if they could yeild a profit on a lease??
#397
i think its just not possible for them to figure such a figures out due to the fluctuating economy. I think them leaving the leasing business is the best financial idea because residuals on their cars are tanking and the business is just not profitable with it being the way it is now..
#398
Originally Posted by The Dougler
New Sierra without a doubt.
but the Sierra has the Allison tranny which i know guys with 450-500 hp in the allison tranny and it's fine with 150,000 miles on them.
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So in essence they end up telling the consumer that " We aren't going to take the hit, we want you to." Customers realized that by leasing the vehivle they protected themselves from the depreciation. This is occuring with every manufacturer but the domestics just don't have the capital to taek the hit.
So how are you going to convince soeone to buy a product that the manufacturer is now say is horrible and depreciates to fast????
So how are you going to convince soeone to buy a product that the manufacturer is now say is horrible and depreciates to fast????
#400
Originally Posted by Stevens24
So in essence they end up telling the consumer that " We aren't going to take the hit, we want you to." Customers realized that by leasing the vehivle they protected themselves from the depreciation. This is occuring with every manufacturer but the domestics just don't have the capital to taek the hit.
So how are you going to convince soeone to buy a product that the manufacturer is now say is horrible and depreciates to fast????
So how are you going to convince soeone to buy a product that the manufacturer is now say is horrible and depreciates to fast????
if you notice Honda,Toyota and Nissan don't do to much of these "promotions" maybe 500 bucks off but nothing like the big 3.