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Ferrari: 149M Project news

From here: http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...eva-motor-show

Ferrari will prance into the 2014 Geneva Motor Show with a new model dubbed 149M Project.

The mysteriously-named car will be revealed online February 12, with an official debut at Geneva scheduled for March 4. Supercar Team reports that it will most likely be an evolution of the current California.

Ferrari often applies the "M" (for modificato, or "modified") tag to refreshed or updated versions of existing models. Just as the 550 Maranello was replaced by the 575M Maranello, Ferrari may be planning to give the California a facelift rather than replace it with an entirely new model.

That makes sense because, while there have been reports of an all-new model, only California-based test mules have been spied so far. Since the new model is expected to debut this spring, we would have expected to see some new sheetmetal underneath the camouflage by now.

Whether it departs completely from the current model or not, the next California is expected to get a turbocharged engine, likely based on the 3.8-liter V-8 from the Maerati Quattroporte, which Ferrari itself manufactures.

In the Maserati, that engine produces 523 horsepower and 479 pound-feet of torque, already quite a bit more than the 483 hp and 372 lb-ft produced by the current California's naturally-aspirated 4.3-liter V-8.

The car is expected to retain its seven-speed dual-clutch transmission and folding metal roof, but get an infotainment upgrade. While a complete restyling is probably out of the question, hopefully something can be done to improve the California's awkward looks as well.
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Let's hope it improves on the California's....not so Ferrari good looks.
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From here: http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Se...cial-pictures/

Any new Ferrari is a big deal in the car world, but this new Ferrari California T is extra-special.

Not only have the Italians finally morphed the ugly duckling of the range into something rather sleeker, it's boosted by turbochargers.

That's the reason for the 'T' suffix on the California T's name, and makes this the first forced-induction Ferrari since the iconic F40 supercar.

Why has Ferrari turbocharged the new California T?

It’s a win-win situation. Turbocharging makes the new Cali faster and up to 15% more frugal than its predecessor (Ferrari says), and links the engines of Ferrari's road cars and the new turbo’ed F1 racer. That should keep the marketing types cheerful.

Up front the California T uses a revised version of the Ferrari-developed twin-turbo V8 that Maserati deploys in the Quattroporte. Be careful: call it a rehashed Maserati engine and you’ll wake up with a prancing horse’s head in your bed. There’s more than a badge-swap going on under the bonnet.

The California T’s V8 displaces 3855cc (vs the Maserati’s smaller 3799cc) and uses a bespoke flat-plane crank for better performance, at the expense of some of the limo’s refinement. Essentially, it’s been turned into a proper sports car’s engine.

Is the Ferrari more powerful?

Way more powerful. The new California’s 3.8-litre V8 develops 552bhp (up 62bhp from the old naturally aspirated Cali, and only 10bhp down on a 458 Italia). And – get this – it delivers 49% more torque. 557lb ft is on tap at 4750rpm, and Ferrari promises the retuned V8 has next to no turbo-lag. The Maserati V8 has 523lb ft, and the old California is left panting with only 372lb ft.

How fast is the new Ferrari California T?

Fast enough to give smug 458 Spider owners a real fright. Using the seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox's launch control mode, the California T sprints to 62mph in 3.6sec, and tops out at 196mph. Modena’s £200k mid-engined drop-top, the 458 Spider is only 0.2sec and 2mph further down the road.

None of the California's key rivals get close to that kind of pace. Aston Martin Vanquish Volante? 4.6sec, 183mph. Bentley Continental V8 GTC? 4.7sec, 187mph. Twin-turbo V12 Mercedes SL65 AMG? 4.0sec, 155mph. The California T certainly doesn’t go like a baby Ferrari, it seems…

Any other cool performance kit?

A quickened-up, hyper-alert steering rack, and adaptive magnetic dampers that react 50% faster for more precise handling, according to Maranello. Standard ceramic brakes haul the California T to a standstill from 62mph in 34 metres. The new car is also 5kg lighter than first-gen California was at launch, but 25kg heavier than the outgong California was at the end of its life, due to weight-saving evolution throughout the car's lifespan.

Ferrari has sweated buckets over making the new twin-turbo California bark like a Ferrari should, in spite of its noise-killing turbos. A three-piece cast exhaust manifold and turbo housing, plus that flat-plane crank has reportedly done the job, with Ferrari promising we’re in for a soundtrack worthy of the badge, right across the rev range.

And it's kinder to the environment, you say?

Maranello claims the new Cali T is 15% more fuel efficient in everyday driving, and even better on the official EU test cycle. According to the lab figures, it’ll do up to 29.6mpg (up from 21.6mpg) and emit 250g/km (previously 270g/km) when equipped with stop-start.

What's new inside?

A 6.5in touchscreen, which looks very VW-esque to us (no bad thing) and an F12 Berlinetta-style console hosting buttons for the gearbox’s automatic mode, reverse, and launch control.

Mostly, it's similar to the existing California. You get typical Ferrari details like a prominent rev-counter, three-mode manettino switch and ancillary controls on the steering wheel, plus XXL gearshift paddles hinged at the steering column. And of course, it's all open to the elements in 14 seconds.

Note the ‘Turbo Response’ gauge atop the dashboard, nestled between the ventilation pods. It displays a percentage figure of how much boost is available – so much classier than a simple ‘boost pressure’ readout, don’t you think?

Has the California's folding hard-top been improved?

Ferrari reckons the folded ‘RHT’ (Retractable Hard Top) impinges less on boot space, and from our first look at the car, the old car's lardy backside has been subjected to a much-needed tone-up. The ugly stacked exhaust pipes are gone, a huge rear diffuser accentuates the wide stance, and the 'pontoon' curves that hint at the classic ’60s 250GT California are better resolved.

Would you still level a 'just an overgrown Honda S2000' jibe at this California? Add your thoughts in the comments below.

California here we come...

You can order your own turbocharged California T from March 2014, when the car will arrive at the Geneva motor show along with a confirmed price tag. CAR understands that Ferrari intends to set the California T’s price much the same as the outgoing car’s £152,154 tag.

That said, it'll still remain the entry-level Ferrari model, staying a good deal cheaper than a 'basic' £178,526 458 Italia, or the £198,971 Spider version of the 458.
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California T

Ferrari is delighted to announce the arrival of the new Ferrari California T: the mid-front-engined 8-cylinder Berlinetta with retractable hard top will make its official world debut at Geneva International Motor Show in March, but from today you can enjoy a preview on the Ferrari website.

The Ferrari California T boasts a brand-new 560 CV turbo engine which, thanks to the talents of Maranello’s engineers, has a torque curve that increases constantly across the rev range and delivers a soundtrack of an intensity never before achieved by a turbo.

http://california-t.ferrari.com/en/?...term=401592107

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/02/12/f...official-pics/

EDIT: Dammit, Yum, I checked before I posted, I really did!
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LOL, all good, elessar!
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I know a lot of people don't feel the same way, but I like the California. This new one is even better.
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Originally Posted by ttribe
I know a lot of people don't feel the same way, but I like the California. This new one is even better.
Something about front-engine Ferraris, I think. But, I agree...I think this car is tits.

Sure would not kick her outta bed if she climbed in.
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I see they finally ditched the Chrysler minivan nav.
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Originally Posted by MTEAZY
I see they finally ditched the Chrysler minivan nav.
Dude...it could be an Etch A Sketch for a NAV and still be more car than 96% of the cars on the road.

It's a freaking Ferrari.
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I wasn't a fan of the old model but this one wow, they improved it all around. To top it all off, 552hp and 557 ft lbs of torque at 4750rpm are you serious? that is amazing. They've turned their pug into a German Shepherd.
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This car is going to be over the $200k mark now.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
This car is going to be over the $200k mark now.
the first-gen base MSRP was $195k and went into the 200's easily... just looking quickly I am seeing a $237k price for a 2013

did you mean $300k?
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Much improved over the previous version.

It's one of my least favorite Ferrari vehicles, but if push came to shove, I'd rock it.
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More info: http://california-t.ferrari.com/en/#overview

ETA: They're saying 0-60 in 3.6 sec...wonder if that's with all-seasons and if the RLX could beat it.
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Originally Posted by srika
the first-gen base MSRP was $195k and went into the 200's easily... just looking quickly I am seeing a $237k price for a 2013

did you mean $300k?
Jeezus ... Are there any Ferraris under $300K?

This income inequality thing is getting out of control. By the time the "average" person could afford a Ferrari it's already starting to appreciate again because it's so old
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Jeezus ... Are there any Ferraris under $300K?

This income inequality thing is getting out of control. By the time the "average" person could afford a Ferrari it's already starting to appreciate again because it's so old
I have a colleague (I'm a control systems engineer) in his fifties who owns a 30 year old Ferrari. He bought it when he started working. I could never do that. I'm still amazed by it, but man I could never afford one.
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Originally Posted by ttribe
More info: http://california-t.ferrari.com/en/#overview

ETA: They're saying 0-60 in 3.6 sec...wonder if that's with all-seasons and if the RLX could beat it.
You know, when the RLX with some kick@$$ tires smokes the Koenignignignignignignignigsegg Agera, you'l be sorry.
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Ferraris are not for "average" people.
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of course you could buy an old used one for like 30 or 40k, and never drive it.
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Originally Posted by kurtatx
I have a colleague (I'm a control systems engineer) in his fifties who owns a 30 year old Ferrari. He bought it when he started working. I could never do that. I'm still amazed by it, but man I could never afford one.
Depends on which ones. The mid-engined ones will typically hold their value and/or increase...

But, you have the odd few that are front-engined like the 456 or 550 that you can score for pretty affordable prices. The PROBLEM is not buying one...it's maintaining one.
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Depends on which ones. The mid-engined ones will typically hold their value and/or increase...

But, you have the odd few that are front-engined like the 456 or 550 that you can score for pretty affordable prices. The PROBLEM is not buying one...it's maintaining one.
Especially just about any model prior to the 458...get the valves adjusted every 5 minutes to keep the engine running.
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Especially just about any model prior to the 458...get the valves adjusted every 5 minutes to keep the engine running.
Yessir. AZ's most famous goat-guy and I have met on a few occasions and chatted about the merits of owning a Ferrari (he is toying with the idea) esp. something that is front-engined and affordable.

He has done quite a bit of research the last few months and it's giving him the heebie-jeebies.

He's not sure if he wants the car anchoring him down in life. It'd feel like getting married for him.
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Yessir. AZ's most famous goat-guy and I have met on a few occasions and chatted about the merits of owning a Ferrari (he is toying with the idea) esp. something that is front-engined and affordable.

He has done quite a bit of research the last few months and it's giving him the heebie-jeebies.

He's not sure if he wants the car anchoring him down in life. It'd feel like getting married for him.
Terry?! How is he?
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Terry?! How is he?
Doing well. Just insanely busy...hence why he's been AWOL.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Jeezus ... Are there any Ferraris under $300K?

This income inequality thing is getting out of control. By the time the "average" person could afford a Ferrari it's already starting to appreciate again because it's so old
Income inequality

They are not built, nor marketed for the "average" person.

Next you won't be able to wrap your head around why an "average" person can't own a private jet and a mansion too?

You can't be serious.

Perhaps red text next time.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Income inequality

They are not built, nor marketed for the "average" person.

Next you won't be able to wrap your head around why an "average" person can't own a private jet and a mansion too?

You can't be serious.

Perhaps red text next time.
Of course they aren't. Don't be silly. That wasn't my point. It was that 360 Modena was $143k ten years ago and now it's very possible you can't buy a Ferrari for twice that.

I don't want to get into an argument about economics.
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I think it's called inflation.
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Originally Posted by srika
I think it's called inflation.
At the risk of bringing some economics into the discussion, inflation in the U.S. has averaged approx. 2.39% in the last ten years (at least through the end of 2013). So assuming a price of 430 in year 1 of $143,000, the inflation adjusted price of the car would be approximately $176,870. Some part of the difference is likely exchange rates between/among the U.S. Dollar and the Euro and or Italian Lira. The rest? Just plain old supply and demand, is my guess.
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I am sure we won't dwell on this past a certain point. So given your information, I think while inflation was a part of it, it wasn't a very big part of it. I think the companies (not just Ferrari mind you) have pointedly been increasing their prices, because they can.
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Originally Posted by srika
I am sure we won't dwell on this past a certain point. So given your information, I think while inflation was a part of it, it wasn't a very big part of it. I think the companies (not just Ferrari mind you) have pointedly been increasing their prices, because they can.
Yep.
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Originally Posted by srika
I am sure we won't dwell on this past a certain point. So given your information, I think while inflation was a part of it, it wasn't a very big part of it. I think the companies (not just Ferrari mind you) have pointedly been increasing their prices, because they can.
WHICH PROVES MY POINT OMGYOUGUYSNEVERLISTEN #tinfoilhat.com

I'm just bitter I can't even afford a F-Type.
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^I still think the F-Type is the sexiest thing this side of $100k.

What irks me more is that I've grown to see Ferrari as pretty much an old man's marque. I hardly see younger people owning one, if they do it's usually some kid with their parents' overseas money.

Any new Ferrari is essentially more of a Caucasian old man's car than the Corvette is. Even the people I know who are considering Ferrari, Lamborghini and the like are looking at used ones.

I acknowledge and respect the heritage, and usually an associated demographic doesn't discourage me from buying a particular car, but...
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Originally Posted by charliemike
This car is going to be over the $200k mark now.
It already was at $198,190 once you took delivery. Ferrari plans to keep the pricing around the same for the T.

Originally Posted by charliemike
Jeezus ... Are there any Ferraris under $300K?

This income inequality thing is getting out of control. By the time the "average" person could afford a Ferrari it's already starting to appreciate again because it's so old
The 458 is still around $230,000 (to remain in range of the MP4-12C & just over the out-going Gallardo/911T).

And the FF does technically retail under at around $295K.
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Limited-production (relative) Ferraris tend to hold their value, right? The problem is getting on those wait lists. You have to own multiple Ferraris to even get on the wait list for say, a Poopdick for example.

I suppose it's a long-term investment plan... sort of.
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Originally Posted by Costco
Limited-production (relative) Ferraris tend to hold their value, right? The problem is getting on those wait lists. You have to own multiple Ferraris to even get on the wait list for say, a Poopdick for example.

I suppose it's a long-term investment plan... sort of.
It is a judgment call - much like investing in stocks - but absolutely special models can be wise investments. As an example, friend got his SLS Black Series right, for around $300k. Within a couple of days he was getting offers nearing $450k. The same thing happened when he got his C63BS, it was around $130k and he was getting offers nearing $250k, due to the car's limited availability.
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Originally Posted by Costco
Limited-production (relative) Ferraris tend to hold their value, right? The problem is getting on those wait lists. You have to own multiple Ferraris to even get on the wait list for say, a Poopdick for example.

I suppose it's a long-term investment plan... sort of.
The average joe "millionaire" would be happy with a production-run car like an Italia. But, as it is mid-engine, it will go up in value. The Poopdick McFartington is for that 1% elite that only BoostedJack has attained...so, forget it.

Ferraris that are front-engined seem to not get too much love...generally speaking...esp. the more current wave (i.e. 456, 550).

But, yeah...the limited run cars not only hold their value, they increase in value. It's like that for most uber-cars though methinks. You won't find the McLaren F1 dropping in value...


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