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Old 11-17-2004, 09:10 PM
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Chrysler: Firepower news

Chrysler Firepower - - By Paul A. Eisenstein - - Source: The Car Connection

Make that "codename Firepower!" The name may change by the time this two-seat sportscar hits Detroit's Cobo Hall next January, but the striking styling is all but locked in stone. Or, to be more precise, carbon fiber, the material of choice for Chrysler's show cars.

The Firepower prototype is meant to slot in somewhere between the sporty Chrysler Crossfire and last year's audacious ME-412 concept vehicle. (And, not so coincidentally, the Firepower and ME-412 were both designed by 30-year-old stylist Bill Niedlander.) If the dimensions seem familiar, that's because the Firepower shares its platform with the Dodge Viper. But in Chrysler trim, it's meant to be more elegant and refined, in the tradition of a classic grand tourer, according to Creed, who suggests you "think of the likes of Aston Martin."

Instead of the Viper's raw V-10, the Firepower will feature the new, 6.1-liter, 425-horsepower version of the HEMI V-8. Estimated top speed is 185 mph, with 0-60 times of under 4.5 seconds.

Though there continues to be some interest in the ME-412 at Chrysler's highest levels, its astronomical price tag seems to have limited the likelihood it would go into production. The Firepower could still serve as a top-end halo car, though Creed cautioned that for the moment, at least, there is no talk of production. On the other hand, he quickly added, "Sometimes design (department) has to put something out there and take the lead" to see what the market reaction is. Then the beancounters need to figure out if there's a business case to be made.
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ill be the first to say: wont sell well
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i think it would sell fairly well for a halo car. esp if it has the road presence of the viper and the glitz of a benz.
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It might sell ok if it priced against the Corvette. But how many Vette owners would jump ship for this?
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Nice info on the charger in that same link.
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if it is a luxurious 2+2 i would be in for that. It looks sweet.
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That side profile looks like a Crossfire part 2....nothing "new" about that design.
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Gangsta! Kinda reminds me of a toned down SLR.
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Think it would sell great against the vette.
Old 11-18-2004, 04:29 PM
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very nice.. I think they should make it a hard top convertible and compete against the XLR, SL, 6 class, etc..
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Originally Posted by ItalianStallion
i think it would sell fairly well for a halo car. esp if it has the road presence of the viper and the glitz of a benz.
I agree. All they have to do is make sure that it has a good value quotient, when compared to a Benz SL or an XLR, and they could have a winner as a limited sales halo car. 425 HP out the bigger Hemi... could do very well indeed
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it is just a concept. There have been a lot of concepts out there that didn't make it near production. How about that Dodge Razor for example? Do you still remember it?
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Yea, but I think the razor was always too hot for reality, more hp than an srt4( well maybe the same as the srt4's dyno power, 250hp), yet 500lbs lighter, rwd, and 15k.
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Originally Posted by Ruski
it is just a concept. There have been a lot of concepts out there that didn't make it near production. How about that Dodge Razor for example? Do you still remember it?
That's true. But the Razor was a really farout concept. Other concepts, like the Viper, did make it. This one is based off the Viper, and has a Hemi, so it's got the most essential components already in production. This is a completely doable concept that could easily sit atop the Chrysler line as a Halo.
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
Yea, but I think the razor was always too hot for reality, more hp than an srt4( well maybe the same as the srt4's dyno power, 250hp), yet 500lbs lighter, rwd, and 15k.
This one appears to be more doable.
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Chrysler Firepower concept

Chrysler's Firepower is based on the V10 Viper’s architecture but uses the 6.1-liter, 425 hp, 420-lb-ft Hemi V8 that will see first light in the forthcoming 300C SRT-8. Officials say there are no production plans, but envision the car occupying the space between the Crossfire and (in theory) the ME412 in Chrysler’s performance portfolio.
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INFORMATION PROVIDED BY DAIMLERCHRYSLER

Chrysler Firepower:

Chrysler brand standards of elegance, refinement and affordability are executed with precision and passion in the Firepower “grand tourer” concept. Powered by a 6.1-liter HEMI® V-8, the Viper-based vehicle is rooted in a feeling of luxury and performance through sleek design and precise engineering. The Firepower pushes beyond the "sports car" realm by blending expressive detail and engineering. The two-seater concept features a tinted glass roof that extends to the rear liftgate, allowing driver and passenger an enhanced feeling of spaciousness.

General and estimated specifications include:

Weight: 3,380 lbs.
Length: 172.6" (4,383 mm)
Wheelbase: 98.8" (2,510 mm)
Front Overhang: 34.1" (867 mm)
Rear Overhang: 39.6" (1,006 mm)
Width: 73.2" (1,859 mm)
Height: 47.7" (1,211 mm)
Track, Frt/Rr: (61.6"/60.6")

Ground Clearance: 5.1" (130 mm)

Engine: 6.1L HEMI V-8

RWD 5-speed automatic

Front and Rear Suspension: SLA Viper Suspension

Front Tire Size: 275/35R19

Rear Tire Size: 335/30R20
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The question now is, would the market be interested in a Chrysler-Corvette.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
The question now is, would the market be interested in a Chrysler-Corvette.
Well, I'd rock one in a heart beat. I like this concept even more than the ME412 (mainly because it's a serious production possiblity). I love the upscale looks and presence (even if the back adheres to closely to Aston Martin) with the Vette like performance. The market may very well embrace a car like this.
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If that comes out I might just have to become the owner of a Chrysler
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The Viper is $15-20k more than a Vette. How exactly is this going to be in the same price range? I don't see how it can.
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I have heard that Chrysler will for sure put this to production. The only question internally is when.
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where the hell is the stickshift??????

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Wow...it looks really good...has a few Aston Martin-like touches.

I think that if they price it in the right range, this could sell pretty well. Chrysler's designs of late, while not always appreciated, really have quite a bit of mass appeal.
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This will hurt manual transmission lovers, but auto transmission is getting better and smarter. They’ll be able to shift faster than a manual.

Also, why do they use the HEMI name over and over again? This is a really good time to make a new name up for their power plants. Something with a more powerful and devastating tone. Like, Thunder or Mach.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
The Viper is $15-20k more than a Vette. How exactly is this going to be in the same price range? I don't see how it can.
The Viper has more HP for the V10, and is more hard core than the base Vette. The Z06 is what goes against the Viper and is $70K.
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Originally Posted by 95gt
where the hell is the stickshift??????

Good question. I think Chrysler would position this more as a GT, but for crusing but could also be driven hard. I doubt it'll get a stick.
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Good question. I think Chrysler would position this more as a GT, but for crusing but could also be driven hard. I doubt it'll get a stick.

i know but it still makes me sad

Madcat: yeah i know manuals in 99% of cases can do the job better than I can but I still want to do it myself
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I'd take that over the crossfire...
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^^ Hell yeah. It trumps the Crossfire in every way.
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if they could make this similar in price to a vette, i think it will sell....
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I absolutly love it...i would rock one no doubt about it.
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No manual transmission being offered makes this a GT. This car isn't a competitor to the C6. Chrysler should just put the Viper's T56 as an option in the car and call it a day.
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Looks awesome!! Can't wait to see it in person in a few days
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Originally Posted by titan
The Viper has more HP for the V10, and is more hard core than the base Vette. The Z06 is what goes against the Viper and is $70K.
They are both 500hp engines. The Z06 is not $70k ... At least not officially. The Viper is $77k.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
They are both 500hp engines. The Z06 is not $70k ... At least not officially. The Viper is $77k.
That's what I'm saying. The Z06 lines up with the Viper. And it'll be around $70K... just watch.
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This will hurt manual transmission lovers, but auto transmission is getting better and smarter. They’ll be able to shift faster than a manual.
Even if an auto transmission could shift in .000001 seconds, I would still take a manual over anyday, not the same driving experience without.
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that is one of the dumbest names there ever was for a car


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