Chevrolet Sting Ray News **V6 Kappa variant (page 1)**

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Old 01-05-2006, 08:02 AM
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Chevrolet Sting Ray News **V6 Kappa variant (page 1)**

GM is seriously considering building a V6 version of its Kappa sports car (aka Pontiac Solstice & Saturn Sky). But the scuttlebutt around Motown is that this new version would get an all new body, a Chevy badge & one of the most iconic names in the GM sports car pantheon -Sting Ray. It would be positioned as a muscular, entry level Chevy sports car priced under the current Corvette range, but above the higher end Pontiac & Saturn models. Given the enduring success of the Corvette, the Sting Ray plan seems plausible-and profitable.

Insiders report V6 powered Kappa mules wearing Pontiac Solstice sheetmetal are already running around GM test facilities, even though the Sting Ray program has yet to be given official approval from GM brass. The V6s Chevy is playing with are the 3.9L pushrod motor used in the Malibu SS & the high-feature 3.6L in the Cadillac CTS. The 3.9 is rated at 240hp, a number that equals the expected horsepower under the hoods of the coming 2.2L turbo 2007 Solstice & Sky, but with much better low-end torque. The 3.6 is rated @ 255hhp in the CTS & would seem the right engine to beat the BMW Z4s 225hp inline-6. The twin overhead cams in the high feature engine would require a bulge in the Sting Rays hood.

Compete with BMW? Yes, like the Corvette, the Sting Ray would transcend GMs old divisional order. If it gets the green light, itll be a well-equipped, high-spec model, priced far above the Pontiac Solstice & Saturn Sky. Both those cars will remain 4-cylinders only, although the 2008 Pontiac Solstice Coupe also will come with a V6, which helps the Chevys business case, as it mean some development & certification costs can be shared.

The Sting Ray mule comes along just as GM has confirmed a third sports car off the Kappa, a 2007 Opel/Vauxhall GT to be imported from the US to Europe. That car launches only after the debut of the Saturn Sky late this spring & shares its styling. The Opel GT will probably get just one of the two engines to be offered in the Solstice/Sky - either the 170hp 2.4L Ecotec four of the 240hp 2.2L turbo, but not both.

The Sting Ray makes sense. Adding a division (or changing divisions) for a platform certainly is more novel than offering special edition packages with leather-covered shift knobs.

The unique Sting Ray styling, a V6 engine & high content also could come along just as everyone who wants a Solstice or Sky has already bought one. Throw in 1950s-1960s Corvette styling cues & an attitude that doesnt try to hide the fact that this is an American-style sports car, & it could be a winner. One other factor in the Sting Rays favor: GMs new Corvette chief, Tom Wallace, also is in charge of the Kappa cars.


Source: MotorTrend Mag
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It would make a ton of sense for a base price of 28K.
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although the 2008 Pontiac Solstice Coupe also will come with a V6
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Let me also remind everyone that there are strong rumors of the 3.6L V6 of the CTS making 305HP or so, in labs, under a new engine mgt and fuel system.
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I think it's a great idea also. The argument for the for the production is very strong in the article. I also really like the sketch. Normally I would have bee against another Kappa variant here, but since thee's less alot less overlap (V6 only,unique sheetmetal,more content) than the Solstice/Sky, with a higher base price, I say go for it. If the go with the 3.6L HFV6, they should put the a supercharger on there for an SS version. If they go with the 3.9L, then they should wedge a V8 (Mallet already did it, so it's possible) for the SS version. Is there space in Chevy's line up for both this open top Sting Ray and a new Camaro muscle car? Hell yeah.
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I would rock one. If GM can remove it's head from it's derier I would love to drive a powerful, desirable American 2+2 coupe WITH a nice interior. That is key. Please guys....
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Originally Posted by Loseit
I would rock one. If GM can remove it's head from it's derier I would love to drive a powerful, desirable American 2+2 coupe WITH a nice interior. That is key. Please guys....

...with the Chevy badge stamped on it...

Right?
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Originally Posted by gavriil
...with the Chevy badge stamped on it...

Right?
Hehehehe
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Originally Posted by gavriil
...with the Chevy badge stamped on it...

Right?
No. Not at any price for a 240hp V-6 chevy coupe. They have to be kidding. Why not that Turbo 2.8L that is being considered for the BLS?

Plus, that 3.9L is only used in FWD AFAIK so how does that effect putting it into a RWD chassis?
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2008 Chevrolet Sting Ray...

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I'm guessing it's just another Solstice/Sky with a different sheet metal badge as a Chevy.
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Originally Posted by DownUnder
I'm guessing it's just another Solstice/Sky with a different sheet metal badge as a Chevy.
Certainly looks like that is the case.
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I'll pass on this one.
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maybe one year too late...
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The main difference between this car and the Soltice/Sky is that it's rumored to have the CTS's 3.6L HFV6 making 255HP.
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Originally Posted by titan
The main difference between this car and the Soltice/Sky is that it's rumored to have the CTS's 3.6L HFV6 making 255HP.
Solstice will have a GXP model later this year making 206hp/260lb torque.... https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...&page=12&pp=25
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
Solstice will have a GXP model later this year making 206hp/260lb torque.... https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...&page=12&pp=25
Yeah. But it's a totally different engine. The Solstice uses a turbo Ecotec. This car is rumored to use the 3.6L HFV6. Like I said, if it's true, it'd be the only main difference. Everything else would be cosmetic.
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Yeah. But it's a totally different engine. The Solstice uses a turbo Ecotec. This car is rumored to use the 3.6L HFV6. Like I said, if it's true, it'd be the only main difference. Everything else would be cosmetic.
Personally I think its a bad idea to cheapen the Stingray name by applying it to a Solstice/Sky platform. Developing a Chevy product that is upmarket of similar products from Saturn or Pontiac will only create more brand confusion among customers too. :shakehead
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Originally Posted by SpeedyV6
Personally I think its a bad idea to cheapen the Stingray name by applying it to a Solstice/Sky platform. Developing a Chevy product that is upmarket of similar products from Saturn or Pontiac will only create more brand confusion among customers too. :shakehead
I never said anything to the contrary. Infact, I agree with you. The use of Kappa in this iteration is one to many. The Soltice and Sky is enough. Now, the Saab AeroX Concept would be cool, because it's different from the other two. Also, I think a small sedan based on it (stretched a bit) would be cool too, if the weight's kept in check...
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why cant i see any pictures?
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Originally Posted by stangg172004
why cant i see any pictures?
You're not missing much.
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At least make the stingray based off of the Corvette
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Originally Posted by S A CHO
At least make the stingray based off of the Corvette


What a downer to base it on the Sky/Solstice...


Although, I like the roadster, it's no heir to the Stingray...
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Originally Posted by S A CHO
At least make the stingray based off of the Corvette

What would you do the C6 to make it a StingRay?
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Originally Posted by Yumchah


What a downer to base it on the Sky/Solstice...
Why is it a downer?
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Think it be better if the stingray was a hatchback to at least seperate it a little from the sky/solstice. Don't think they need 3 roadsters.
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
Think it be better if the stingray was a hatchback to at least seperate it a little from the sky/solstice. Don't think they need 3 roadsters.
I agree. A hatch would be hot, and something different. Many would question if it adheres to the name's heritage, I think.
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Originally Posted by Minch00
What would you do the C6 to make it a StingRay?
If you cant make it any better then a C6, dont call it a StingRay...

Im not bad mouthing the car or anything, I think it looks pretty good, its just that when you think of StingRay, you think of Corvette...
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I'm guessing it's just another Solstice/Sky with a different sheet metal badge as a Chevy.
it's GM. so that's probably true.
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