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Old 07-18-2006, 09:49 PM
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Saw that in AW too. Notice the AP Racing calipers peaking thru the spokes.
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MotorTrent mag claims that GM sources have confirmed that the Corvette StingRay will go into production probably by mid-2007. Rumored specs still hold (600 or more HP, 2900 pound weight)
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This will be a monster.
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Originally Posted by dom
This will be a monster.
Yep. An absolute beast.
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I can't see the stingray name just being applied to a car, no matter the performance, without this style...


Think they are messing with some real history here if they just want some easily recognized name on some overpowered vette.
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2007 Chevrolet Corvette Z06



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so thats what the new z06 looks like
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love that orange!
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Hawt! ....even in that ugly orange.
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i bet it would look hot driving down the road. Does it say 505HP on the side badges?
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Originally Posted by dezzzmond
i bet it would look hot driving down the road. Does it say 505HP on the side badges?
either that or SOS distress signal.
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I love squash-colored cars.
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Have I missed something??? How is this different?
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Have I missed something??? How is this different?
Hopefully they've figured out how to keep the roof on the car this year...
Old 08-10-2006, 11:26 AM
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Have I missed something??? How is this different?
New color for 2007, that's it really.
I like last years orange better. It was darker.




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2009 Chevrolet Corvette Z07

If the thought of the new 500-hp Ford Shelby GT500 Mustang hedging in on the 505-hp Corvette Z06's territory raises your blood pressure, don't despair: Corvette chief engineer Tom Wallace has a 650-hp trick up his sleeve. A new super Corvette will build on the Z06's 7.0-liter LS7 V-8 that was developed in sync with the Corvette C6.R Le Mans racer. For this limited-production Vette, which might be called the Z07, Chevy will increase the LS7's displacement and bolt on a supercharger to bump output by 145 hp. The Z07, due in 2008, will be further differentiated from the Z06 by the use of more carbon-fiber body panels and a huge hood vent aimed at killing front-end lift. In true Corvette style, Chevy will undercut competitors by pricing the Z07 at about $100,000. This Corvette has been known within GM as the Blue Devil, after the mascot of GM CEO Rick Wagoner's alma mater, Duke, and also as the Sting Ray, but we think they'll go with Z07, or maybe Z06.R.
http://www.automobilemag.com/future_..._corvette_z07/

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So, can you read Swede? http://www.automotorsport.se/biltest...615/061501.pdf



Anyhoo, if not, the article has the Z06 slapping a Porsche 911 Turbo around a twisty track by 2.6s. Not bad!

Article sourced from here (a la Anglais): http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/...-around-track/
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Well, i'd expect so. The turbo is really a luxury car in the porsche lineup. If you want track speed, the GT3 will beat a turbo around the track. I'd like to see how it holds up against the Z06. But really, i'm not surprised by this. The Z06 is a track car, and the 911 turbo is not.
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that just made the decision that much harder! Z06; cheaper, just as good looking, and faster. 911 Turbo; its a 911 turbo
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I think if I could afford a turbo, it wouldnt really be a question. The Z06 is an amazing track car, but the turbo is really the best all around car I can think of. It's superfast, it holds its own on the track, yet it gives up no civility in doing it. You can drive it on the highway, through a pothole, to the country club, or wherever. If I was just going to have one car to track, i'd pick the Z06 or a GT3, but if this were going to be my special car. I'd want it to be something that I could enjoy anywhere.
Old 10-12-2006, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TheAcAvenger
I think if I could afford a turbo, it wouldnt really be a question. The Z06 is an amazing track car, but the turbo is really the best all around car I can think of. It's superfast, it holds its own on the track, yet it gives up no civility in doing it. You can drive it on the highway, through a pothole, to the country club, or wherever. If I was just going to have one car to track, i'd pick the Z06 or a GT3, but if this were going to be my special car. I'd want it to be something that I could enjoy anywhere.
If I could afford a turbo, I'd pick up a Z06 + a M45 instead, maybe even Z06 + a LS460. Best of both worlds, but machines dedicated to doing one thing right.
Of course, this is California, where 4WD is irrelevant.
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as people have said, its not surprising the Z06 beat it.

and someone over at 6speed translated some of it.. the people over there aren't too happy about this article. I feel for em, I do.

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=60647
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I feel for them as well. Some of them have an argument though. The Z06 is the GM's best offering. I'm pretty sure no one on this board is going to argue that the GT2 should be able to nudge out the Vette. I love the Z06. Its really good to see an american car contending with the surpreme beings. I just missed the memo where the 911 turbo was trying to be a track car. The 911 turbo has never tried to be a track car, thats the whole purpose of the GT2 and GT3 in the first place. If I was a porsche fan and had the money to get a 911 turbo, i'd hardly be swayed by this. It's like TL drivers flipping because they lost to a SRT-4 in a street or auto-x race. This serious vette competition should bring one hell of a GT2 though.. can't wait to see what porsche pulls out their sleeves
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Everything I've read about the Z06 says it's an amazing car in every sense of the word. However, it also seems like you really do need to be a professional driver to break past 8/10ths driving with it. Car & Driver was able to turn some very fast laps with it in their recent issue at VIR, but they repeated many times that it was the hardest car of the bunch to drive on the edge. So in other words, it's fast, but you need to be faster.

Probably the average joe would be able to lap faster in a 911TT with its AWD and forgiving handling. Even if you've done a few track events and driving schools, it's unlikely that you're at the level the Z06 requires.
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Everything I've read about the Z06 says it's an amazing car in every sense of the word. However, it also seems like you really do need to be a professional driver to break past 8/10ths driving with it. Car & Driver was able to turn some very fast laps with it in their recent issue at VIR, but they repeated many times that it was the hardest car of the bunch to drive on the edge. So in other words, it's fast, but you need to be faster.

Probably the average joe would be able to lap faster in a 911TT with its AWD and forgiving handling. Even if you've done a few track events and driving schools, it's unlikely that you're at the level the Z06 requires.
Thats funny, cause thats all I've ever heard about ANY/EVERY 911 until this point, the point the Zo6 beat the 911tt. What? We not only need to compare a car way more expensive but we need to go to its awd version to get something that offers sorta predictable handling?

I guess its appropriate, we might as well go back to evo and sti cause they are eating at 911 heals also without any name behind them, just numbers that don't begin with dollar signs.

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Thats funny, cause thats all I've ever heard about ANY/EVERY 911 until this point, the point the Zo6 beat the 911tt. What? We not only need to compare a car way more expensive but we need to go to its awd version to get something that offers sorta predictable handling?

I guess its appropriate, we might as well go back to evo and sti cause they are eating at 911 heals also without any name behind them, just numbers that don't begin with dollar signs.
I have never heard that Porsches are poor handling and unpredictable cars. Could you post some links to reviews to support that?

The quote I'm referring to is on P. 74 in the November 2006 issue:
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The Corvette Z06, in contrast, was brutal and tricky to drive at the limit. With the stability and traction control systems turned off, it loved sideways action, whether the driver lifted at the entrance to a corner or was flooring it out the exit. The Z06 had serious brakes, talkative steering, and the most compelling engine note, but driving it fast was spooky, if oversteer makes you nervous. Mastering this car was challenging and satisfying, but drivers needed to be on their game.
Based on that, it seems it's not the easiest car to drive on the edge.

They didn't compare it with the 911TT, but they did review the Cayman. It's not AWD, but it still managed to impress them in the handling department:

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The Porsche Cayman S was also quite good on the track, finishing third in its class with a time of 3:09.5. We drove it right after the Elise and expected a sloppy, unsatisfying experience, but it gripped the track with verve and did not exhibit a single handling vice. It's a sweetie that was the fastest in class through Sector Two and could easily handle an extra 200hp.
Sounds like if it had the same power as the Z06, it would likely be faster around the track. Kind of like what a 911TT would be.

I'm also not sure what you think "eating at 911 heals" is, but the EVO MR finished 12.4 seconds slower than the Z06. Say the 911TT is 2 seconds slower, like the Swedish article would lead us to believe, that still means the 911 would be 10+ seconds a lap faster.
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
I have never heard that Porsches are poor handling and unpredictable cars. Could you post some links to reviews to support that?

The quote I'm referring to is on P. 74 in the November 2006 issue:


Based on that, it seems it's not the easiest car to drive on the edge.

They didn't compare it with the 911TT, but they did review the Cayman. It's not AWD, but it still managed to impress them in the handling department:


Sounds like if it had the same power as the Z06, it would likely be faster around the track. Kind of like what a 911TT would be.

I'm also not sure what you think "eating at 911 heals" is, but the EVO MR finished 12.4 seconds slower than the Z06. Say the 911TT is 2 seconds slower, like the Swedish article would lead us to believe, that still means the 911 would be 10+ seconds a lap faster.
I never said a Porsche was poor handling, but like any other high performance vehicle, you just don't get in one like you're playing a video game and drive it at 10/10 without having experience as a driver. You're argument is making it sound like a regular consumer can drive a HIGHEND 911 at the limit yet they can't in a Z06.

You are also comparing a Zo6 to a Cayman S and say "Sounds like if it had the same power as the Z06 it would do.."?

If building performance cars were as easy as just adding power, the NSX would be out of this world already.

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Unlike the hedge fund managers and Hollywood agents who buy most of the Porsche 911 Turbos, Bill can push a 911 to its limit and keep it there; a talent that earned him a win in a GT1-class 911 at the 12 hours of Sebring in 1996. Riding shotgun as he lapped the Watkins Glen road course in upstate New York, we watched him drift the all-wheel-drive Turbo from one turn to the other, catching each slide with a quick flick of his hands and a smooth right foot. He made it look easy. It's not.
Hey, you got me, its hard to post up years of reading based off GOOGLE searches. As you get into high performance vehicles from Ferrari, Ford Gt, etc. handling is built into the car just like on the Zo6, being able to realize that handling takes driver ability.

It's pointless to find articles saying porsches are hard to handle at the limit, owners will hardly ever come close to those limits.
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I'm also not sure what you think "eating at 911 heals" is, but the EVO MR finished 12.4 seconds slower than the Z06. Say the 911TT is 2 seconds slower, like the Swedish article would lead us to believe, that still means the 911 would be 10+ seconds a lap faster.
12 seconds slower than a Zo6, on a circuit you might as well be driving an ECHO, yet you still think your 911 is worth something more. I'd love to see this time sheet. Mag racing your car off other's results is worthless.
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I never said a Porsche was poor handling, but like any other high performance vehicle, you just don't get in one like you're playing a video game and drive it at 10/10 without having experience as a driver. You're argument is making it sound like a regular consumer can drive a HIGHEND 911 at the limit yet they can't in a Z06.

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The Corvette Z06, in contrast, was brutal and tricky to drive at the limit. [B
With the stability and traction control systems turned off, it loved sideways action, whether the driver lifted at the entrance to a corner or was flooring it out the exit. The Z06 had serious brakes, talkative steering, and the most compelling engine note, but driving it fast was spooky, if oversteer makes you nervous.[/B] Mastering this car was challenging and satisfying, but drivers needed to be on their game.
The solution to this problem can be found by turning VSA back on. I'm pretty sure a 911 Turbo can also be a handful with its stability control turned off. Not to mention that old 911's were notorious for "spooky" handling. And before anyone jumps in with a comment to the effect of "well they're awesome in the hands of a skilled driver" just know that even in professional sports car racing, lots of pro's mess up while driving 911's.
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Actually, from nearly every test of the 911TT i've read is that its an extremely forgiving car. The "spooky" handling that is synonymous with the old 911's is well documented, especially in the 996 GT2 in which one of the big name mags came out and said its not a car that can be handled by normal folks, as they spun it accidently a few times themselves. The 996 in general was always regarded as twitchy at best and was frowned upon by porsche afficionados (kind of similar to the 300ZX for nissan), once you get to 993 and below, of course they're going to be spooky as they were more lightweight back then. Having the engine in the rear will always have some intricacies to it. But back to my point, my readings, and one top gear article alluded to an idea that the 997 turbo was easier to drive at a high speed and more of a pick up and play feel. You can't expect the Z06 to be as steady and easy to drive as a 911 turbo, VSA on OR off. Its RWD and it weighs sub 3200 pounds. And as car and driver stated "brutal and tricky to drive at the limit", i'd be willing to wager that to attain the best time on the course, VSA was turned off, and that how they got to the limit. So VSA arguments become null and void.

But to be completely honest, I still don't like the comparison in the first place. The 911 turbo was not designed to compete with the Z06. I expected it to lose on the track. The 911 turbo isn't the track car of the porsche family. Its the GT of the porsche family. You said lots of pro's mess up while driving 911's. Let's all point out that the 911's driven by the pros are race bred 911 GT3s that weigh noticeably less than a 911 turbo and are rear wheel drive, and are not marketed as porsche's luxury coupe in the way that the 911 turbo often is. Granted, a Z06 would really kill a GT3 on the track due to its power advantage, but thats why porshce makes a GT2. Comparing a 911 turbo to a Z06 vette is barely any different than comparing a Z06 vette to an SL AMG benz or an Aston martin DB9. Why?
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Maybe because its a Porsche we all want to pit it against track cars and bunk it when it loses because it costs so much more and its a porsche. But not every ferrari is a Modena/460 or an Enzo/FXX. The new 599 Imola teeters around 4000 pounds, and the F575/550 Maranello it replaces wasn't much of a racer either. I'm not going to go tangent on talking about exotics.. I just want to point out that every company has niche cars, and I think to the american porsche lover in his late 50s/early 60s who sees more interstates than backroads, the 911 turbo is an extremely excellent choice

Sorry its two seperate posts, It wouldnt let me edit after 5 minutes.
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But to be completely honest, I still don't like the comparison in the first place. The 911 turbo was not designed to compete with the Z06. I expected it to lose on the track. The 911 turbo isn't the track car of the porsche family. Its the GT of the porsche family. You said lots of pro's mess up while driving 911's. Let's all point out that the 911's driven by the pros are race bred 911 GT3s that weigh noticeably less than a 911 turbo and are rear wheel drive, and are not marketed as porsche's luxury coupe in the way that the 911 turbo often is. Granted, a Z06 would really kill a GT3 on the track due to its power advantage, but thats why porshce makes a GT2. Comparing a 911 turbo to a Z06 vette is barely any different than comparing a Z06 vette to an SL AMG benz or an Aston martin DB9. Why?
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Its not that unexpected. A ~4000lb car with AWD and 2+2 seating was beaten out by a lightweight, track minded, 2 seater. You don't say. I give credit for Porsche for building something that has kind of a GT capability yet is capable of such performance. In a similar vein, the Z06 should be credited for delivering stellar performance at an affordable price.

However, a true comparison would be the GT2 or GT3 against the Z06.

What a lot of people forget is that the 911 delivers so much more than just raw performance numbers. It delivers the kind of tactile feel that few cars can, and that feel and balance and experience can't be quantified in numbers.
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Originally Posted by TheAcAvenger

But to be completely honest, I still don't like the comparison in the first place. The 911 turbo was not designed to compete with the Z06. I expected it to lose on the track. The 911 turbo isn't the track car of the porsche family. Its the GT of the porsche family. You said lots of pro's mess up while driving 911's. Let's all point out that the 911's driven by the pros are race bred 911 GT3s that weigh noticeably less than a 911 turbo and are rear wheel drive, and are not marketed as porsche's luxury coupe in the way that the 911 turbo often is. Granted, a Z06 would really kill a GT3 on the track due to its power advantage, but thats why porshce makes a GT2. Comparing a 911 turbo to a Z06 vette is barely any different than comparing a Z06 vette to an SL AMG benz or an Aston martin DB9. Why?
How is the 911 Turbo not meant to compete against the Z06? Both are all out sports cars that are capable of being used as daily drivers. The 997TT and Z06 were both designed to be capable on the track and street. The "Blue Devil" will be the car to compete against the GT2/3.
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I agree. The GT2 is a better comparison for the Z06. The 911TT is more of a GT car from Porsche.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
I agree. The GT2 is a better comparison for the Z06. The 911TT is more of a GT car from Porsche.
Looks like the GT3 is enough to outpace the Z06:

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Power lap times
Koenigsegg CCX (With Top Gear spoiler) 1.17.6
Pagani Zonda F 1.18.4
Maserati MC12 1.18.9
Ferrari F60 Enzo 1.19.0
Ariel Atom 1.19.5
Porsche Carerra GT 1.19.8
Koenigsegg CCX 1.20.4
Ascari KZ1 1.20.7
Mercedes McLaren SLR 1.20.9
Ford GT 1.21.9
Ferrari 360 CS 1.22.3
Porsche GT3 RS 1.22.3
Corvette Z06 1.22.4

Noble M15 1.22.5
Murcielago 1.23.7
Zonda 1.23.8
Koenigsegg 1.23.9
Prodrive P2 1.24.3
TVR Sagaris 1.24.6
Mitsubishi Evo FQ400 1.24.8
TVR Tuscan 1.24.8
Noble 1.25.0
Lotus Exige S 1.25.1
Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder 1.25.7
Lamborghini Gallardo 1.25.8
BMW Z4 M 1.26.0
Porsche Cayman 1.26.2
Lotus Exige 1.26.4
Chevrolet Corvette 1.26.8
Mercedes CLS 55 AMG 1.26.9
Porsche 911 GT3 1.27.2
TVR 350C 1.27.5
BMW M3 CSL 1.28.0
Marcos TSO GT2 1.28.2
Dodge Viper SRT-10 1.28.5
MG SV 1.28.6
Porsche 911 Carrera S 1.28.9 (very wet)
Mitsubishi Evo VIII 1.28.9
BMW Alpine Z8 1.29.0
Mercedes CL65 1.29
Alfa 3.7 GTA 1.30.0
Subaru Impreza STI 1.30.1
Vauxhall Monaro VXR 1.30.1
Aston Martin DB7 GT 1.30.4
Golf R32 1.30.4
Audi S4 1.30.9
Porsche 911 turbo 1.31.0
Vauxhall VX 220 turbo 1.31.3
Honda NSX Type R 1.31.6
BMW M3 1.31.8
Nissan 350Z 1.31.8
Mazda RX8 1.31.8
BMW 535d 1.31.8
BMW 130 1.31.9
Ford Focus RS 1.32.2
Mazda 6 MPS 1.32.2
Lotus Esprit V8 1.32.5
Audi TT V6 1.32.7
MG ZT 1.33
Noble 1.33.1
Mercedes SL 55 AMG 1.33.2
Volkswagen Golf R32 1.33.2
Cadillac CTS 1.33.3
Holden Monaro 1.33.9
Ford Mondeo ST220 1.34.5
Ford Focus ST 1.34.9
Volvo S60R 1.35.0
Ferrari 575 1.35.2
Vauxhall Vectra VXR 1.35.3
Alfa 147 GTA 1.35.6
Lotus Elise 1.35.6
Aston Martin Vanquish 1.36.2
Renault Clio v6 1.36.2
Honda Civic Type R 1.36.5
Saab 95 hot aero 1.37.9
Mazzer 1.38.0
Bowler Wildcat 1.39.4
Bentley Arnarge 1.40.8
Overfinch 1.44.0

The 997 GT2 will likely be in supercar territory (~1:20 range).
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I find it amazing that GM was aiming at all the top sports cars with the Z06, and now alot of those top sports cars are gunning for the Z06. I just think GM did a great job, and for the price, really no ther car can come close. I love knowing that a guy that cant afford a ferrar, but just wants the Ferrari performance, can get a Z06 and be right there.
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Originally Posted by bigman
I just think GM did a great job, and for the price, really no ther car can come close. I love knowing that a guy that cant afford a ferrar, but just wants the Ferrari performance, can get a Z06 and be right there.
Nothing wrong with that.
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Originally Posted by bigman
I find it amazing that GM was aiming at all the top sports cars with the Z06, and now alot of those top sports cars are gunning for the Z06. I just think GM did a great job, and for the price, really no ther car can come close. I love knowing that a guy that cant afford a ferrar, but just wants the Ferrari performance, can get a Z06 and be right there.
I think the above is unfairly over-critical of the Z06's performance. I mean for 75K this is one amazingly well performing vehicle! The cars that have done better in the Top Gear track are very very few and extremely expensive.
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Looks like the GT3 is enough to outpace the Z06:




The 997 GT2 will likely be in supercar territory (~1:20 range).

The GT3 series of Porsche cars come in FOUR variations. I only see the GT3 RS here doing basically par with the Z06. Which is very impressive for the Z06, but not to take anything away from the GT3 RS.

When the Blue Devil comes out, it will probably be at the top of that list or very close to it.


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