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Originally Posted by gavriil
I am getting more and more convinced that we will see an even more powerful Vette than the Z06 since there has been talk about it from different angles. I am referring to the Super Vette or the Blue Devil Vette we have heard about in the past. No this SS proporsal.
Another hint could be the unusually "well designed" LS7. E.g. dry sump, titanium rods, sodium filled valves, etc. You dont need all that tech to make 505HP from 7.0 liters in my opinion. Making the LS7 turn to 8000 rpm and peak HP at 7250 will easily produce another 100HP. The question is, can they make it while maintaing driveability, emissions and other similar factors. |
I'd be happy with a regular old C6.
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I hope they make a super vette. Perhaps the z06 price will fall (and i'll be able to get one) ... sigh .. just dreaming...
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ridiculous - I hope they make it.
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Such a car will be as fast as the Enzo. No doubt in my mind.
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Don't really see a point to an even higher performance vette, the z06 is more than enough for the brand right now especially considering the situation they are in.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Such a car will be as fast as the Enzo. No doubt in my mind.
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MSRP released...........
Description MSRP 1YY87 Corvette Z06 2 Door $65000.00 Destination $800.00 Preferred Equipmt Pkg 1LZ $0.00 Preferred Equipmt Pkg 2LZ $2900.00 Museum Delivery $490.00 LeMans Blue Metallic $300.00 Velocity Yellow $750.00 AM/FM with Navigation $1600.00 AM/FM 6 Disc CD, XM Satellite $1740.00 Polished Aluminum Wheels $1295.00 |
Originally Posted by Beltfed
MSRP released...........
Description MSRP 1YY87 Corvette Z06 2 Door $65000.00 Destination $800.00 Preferred Equipmt Pkg 1LZ $0.00 Preferred Equipmt Pkg 2LZ $2900.00 Museum Delivery $490.00 LeMans Blue Metallic $300.00 Velocity Yellow $750.00 AM/FM with Navigation $1600.00 AM/FM 6 Disc CD, XM Satellite $1740.00 Polished Aluminum Wheels $1295.00 |
That's excellent value. I somehow doubt it'll stay below $100k CDN though...
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Whoa... this is one American car I would buy!! :thumbsup:
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Yummy. Would totally love that car. :yum:
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Originally Posted by Beltfed
MSRP released...........
Description MSRP 1YY87 Corvette Z06 2 Door $65000.00 Destination $800.00 Preferred Equipmt Pkg 1LZ $0.00 Preferred Equipmt Pkg 2LZ $2900.00 Museum Delivery $490.00 LeMans Blue Metallic $300.00 Velocity Yellow $750.00 AM/FM with Navigation $1600.00 AM/FM 6 Disc CD, XM Satellite $1740.00 Polished Aluminum Wheels $1295.00 Great price! |
CHEVY ANNOUNCES CORVETTE Z06 0-60 MPH TIME AND BASE PRICE ....
DETROIT – June 13, 2005 – The ultimate Corvette—the 2006 Corvette Z06—is posting numbers at the track and on the window sticker that will get attention. Chevrolet has announced that the fastest Corvette ever—the 505-horsepower Corvette Z06—will achieve 0-60 mph in 3.7 seconds while still in first gear, and pricing will start at $65,800, including destination and freight charges. “Corvette is a global icon for world-class sports car performance at an incredible value, and offering the fastest production Corvette ever at this price is another testament to that reputation,” said Ed Peper, Chevrolet general manager. “When you compare the Corvette Z06 performance stats to other supercars, you see numerous examples where you’re getting better performance with Corvette for one-third the sticker price of the competition.” Developed alongside the Corvette C6.R race car, the Corvette Z06 uses advanced lightweight materials typically found only in the most exotic supercars. Use of weight-saving materials such as carbon fiber, aluminum, titanium and magnesium give the 3,132-pound car a highly competitive weight-to-power ratio of 6.2 pounds per horsepower. “The new Corvette Z06 is the dividend from competing so successfully in endurance racing,” said Dave Hill, Corvette’s chief engineer. “It combines the strong attributes of the new, sixth-generation Corvette with the spirit, technology and know-how from the race program to form an American supercar with outstanding credentials.” The highly anticipated Corvette Z06, which will be available in the fourth quarter of 2005, completes the sixth-generation portfolio, which also includes the 400-hp Corvette coupe and convertible. Previous Corvette Z06 models, from the original 1963 model to the 2001-04 editions, incorporated suspension and engine upgrades that complemented existing Corvette systems. The 2006 Corvette Z06 is more differentiated from the standard Corvette than any other Z06 in history with every design element serving a performance function. Corvette Z06 features include: LS7 7.0-liter/427-cubic-inch Gen IV V-8 engine with lightweight reciprocating components 505 horsepower (373 kw) @ 6300 rpm 470 lb.-ft. of torque (657 Nm) @ 4800 rpm 6-speed manual transmission 7000 rpm redline Aluminum body structure with one-piece hydroformed perimeter rails frame and magnesium engine cradle Carbon-fiber composite front fenders, front wheelhouses and floors Dry-sump engine lubrication system Hand-built engine at GM’s new Performance Build Center Unique design styling that includes a larger grille, cold-air scoop and lower air splitter, wide-body front and rear fenders and a taller rear spoiler Engine, transmission and differential oil coolers and steering cooler For all its race-inspired functionality, the Corvette Z06 also is designed to be refined as a daily driver with a sophisticated and comfortable interior and generous cargo volume. The Z06 will be offered in Machine Silver Metallic, Victory Red, Daytona Sunset Orange, Le Mans Blue Metallic, Velocity Yellow Tintcoat and Black exterior colors. |
Well, I am surprised. I was expecting this thing to have been priced closer to $75K. Although still expensive, it should be considered a bargain with such performance figures.
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Funny how GM can make such a perfect sports car (dare I say super car?) but suck at making little econoboxes that should be made with a simple cookie cutter philosophy.
Anyhow, this is beyond impressive. |
WTF is museum delivery...
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the 505-horsepower Corvette Z06—will achieve 0-60 mph in 3.7 seconds while still in first gear |
Originally Posted by The Sarlacc
WTF is museum delivery...
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Originally Posted by The Sarlacc
WTF is museum delivery...
You go pick up the car yourself at the factory in Kentucky. At least I think thats what it means. There's a web cam showing customer cars waiting to be picked up. Lemme see if I can find it. |
Originally Posted by dom
You go pick up the car yourself at the factory in Kentucky.
At least I think thats what it means. There's a web cam showing customer cars waiting to be picked up. Lemme see if I can find it. Sometimes you get to fire the engine up for the first time at the end of the line. Nothing huge, but it’s kind of symbolic that you’re there for the “birth” of your car. I’d think about doing it if I were buying one new. |
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Originally Posted by Shawn S
You don’t just pick the car up, you get a tour of the factory and sometimes they will actually let you tighten a bolt or put a miscellaneous part on the car.
Sometimes you get to fire the engine up for the first time at the end of the line. Nothing huge, but it’s kind of symbolic that you’re there for the “birth” of your car. I’d think about doing it if I were buying one new. wait........ what if it doesn't start.... that would suck. |
Blue Devil Lives!! When GM's vice chairman speaks of an ultra-performance Corvette, we listen - - By BOB GRITZINGER - - Source: Autoweek
General Motors vice chairman Bob Lutz won’t confirm this car exists, but he is not saying it doesn’t. We first wrote about Chevrolet’s ultra-performance Corvette—dubbed Blue Devil, most likely to catch the attention of GM CEO and Duke Blue Devil grad Rick Wagoner—shortly before the sixth-generation Corvette debuted at the Detroit auto show in January (AW, Dec. 22 and 29, 2004). We asked Lutz about the car during a recent exclusive interview with AutoWeek. “Let’s just say [Corvette chief engineer] Dave Hill is not a guy who likes playing second fiddle to any high-performance car on the road,” said Lutz. “My guess is we’re going to find a way to do something beyond the Z06, that would be at a much higher price point, and which would compete with some of the leading high-performance cars of the world.” Lutz said the car may be delayed while the company focuses most of its engineering might on pulling ahead profit-making vehicles like its next-generation large sport/utilities and pickups. “But there is certainly no lack of desire on anyone’s part to establish the supremacy of the Corvette,” says Lutz. Spied on the Nurbürgring, Blue Devil appears to be living up to the earlier hype. Eyewitnesses said the car sounds supercharged, confirming reports the engine is likely a blown version of the Z06’s 7.0-liter V8, producing upward of 600 hp. Look for lightweight carbon fiber body parts to reduce weight to about 2900 pounds. Pricing will likely start somewhere around $100,000 if and when the car makes production in 2006. We hear 2005 Le Mans class winner Jan Magnussen is turning faster-than-Z06 laps in the Blue Devil at Nurburgring. (Photos by Bernd Rauh) http://www.autoweek.com/files/weekar...devil_side.jpg |
If this car gets a supercharged version of the LS7, it will have a minimum of 650HP. 600HP wont cut it. I am more leaning towards 100HP per liter and 700HP. On 2900 pounds, that will run circles around the Enzo on any track.
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not impressed :)
j/k that is sweet, I hope they make it. |
Originally Posted by gavriil
If this car gets a supercharged version of the LS7, it will have a minimum of 650HP. 600HP wont cut it. I am more leaning towards 100HP per liter and 700HP. On 2900 pounds, that will run circles around the Enzo on any track.
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Originally Posted by Red-CL
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didn't realize i was reading an old thread till i saw red-cl's post. :( |
Originally Posted by srika
not impressed :)
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Originally Posted by zeroday
didn't realize i was reading an old thread till i saw red-cl's post. :(
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One of my buddies that worked at GM as a Mechanical Engineer told me about this project a year ago and it looks like this is gonna come out! He confirmed that the engine is gonna push upwards of 650-700 hp using a turbocharged 427. The project was dubbed "Blue Devil"
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2900 lbs!! SOMEONEBODY HAS A CLUE!!! You can't just keep adding more and more power. Glad to see them take the weight savings even more serious
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Originally Posted by gavriil
You do understand the format I am following with Automotive News right ?
:no: don't know what you mean. please explain my post was more about red-cl than some forum format issue. |
looks good, even with 700HP it's still not a Ford GT or a Enzo. Both the GT and the Enzo out class the "blue devil" in many other ways.
Cool to see more options for less $$. Also... The GT has closer to 650HP than 550HP, most GT's dyno 550-560 at the wheels. |
WOW THAT IS SEXY AS FUCK....id officially sell my mother for that car
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Originally Posted by zeroday
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:no: don't know what you mean. please explain my post was more about red-cl than some forum format issue. |
Originally Posted by SiGGy
The GT has closer to 650HP than 550HP, most GT's dyno 550-560 at the wheels.
I believe that any day. |
To gavriil;
Actually, there were a number of engines that Chevy produced in the 60's that put out quite a bit more than the advertised number.. quite a bit more as in real horsepower. In 1967, Chevy offered the L88 in the Corvette. Rated at 430 HP put it 5 HP less than their "top-of-the-heap" L71 solid lifter tri-power 427. But the L88 was actually putting out 560 HP. In 1969, Chevy introduced the ZL-1 again rating this engine at 430 HP. But its numbers were in the area of 600 HP. Now to say that it was really only putting out 60% of this is not the case at all. A 1969 Corvette with this engine and street tires was road tested by Motor Trend with a quarter mile of 10.3 seconds at 130 MPH. You ain't gonna get those kind of times with 360 HP. There were other engines Chevy did this with. The L78 396 which was rated at 425 HP in 65 1/2 Vettes and at 375 HP in 66 SS Chevelles. The L 72 and L74 427 66 Corvette engines. The L89 427. And on and on. Yes engines today are rated differently than those of the 60's. But the 60's supercar engines were definitely putting out the ponies. |
Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
To gavriil;
Actually, there were a number of engines that Chevy produced in the 60's that put out quite a bit more than the advertised number.. quite a bit more as in real horsepower. In 1967, Chevy offered the L88 in the Corvette. Rated at 430 HP put it 5 HP less than their "top-of-the-heap" L71 solid lifter tri-power 427. But the L88 was actually putting out 560 HP. In 1969, Chevy introduced the ZL-1 again rating this engine at 430 HP. But its numbers were in the area of 600 HP. Now to say that it was really only putting out 60% of this is not the case at all. A 1969 Corvette with this engine and street tires was road tested by Motor Trend with a quarter mile of 10.3 seconds at 130 MPH. You ain't gonna get those kind of times with 360 HP. There were other engines Chevy did this with. The L78 396 which was rated at 425 HP in 65 1/2 Vettes and at 375 HP in 66 SS Chevelles. The L 72 and L74 427 66 Corvette engines. The L89 427. And on and on. Yes engines today are rated differently than those of the 60's. But the 60's supercar engines were definitely putting out the ponies. :thumbsup: You know your shit! |
Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
To gavriil;
Actually, there were a number of engines that Chevy produced in the 60's that put out quite a bit more than the advertised number.. quite a bit more as in real horsepower. In 1967, Chevy offered the L88 in the Corvette. Rated at 430 HP put it 5 HP less than their "top-of-the-heap" L71 solid lifter tri-power 427. But the L88 was actually putting out 560 HP. In 1969, Chevy introduced the ZL-1 again rating this engine at 430 HP. But its numbers were in the area of 600 HP. Now to say that it was really only putting out 60% of this is not the case at all. A 1969 Corvette with this engine and street tires was road tested by Motor Trend with a quarter mile of 10.3 seconds at 130 MPH. You ain't gonna get those kind of times with 360 HP. There were other engines Chevy did this with. The L78 396 which was rated at 425 HP in 65 1/2 Vettes and at 375 HP in 66 SS Chevelles. The L 72 and L74 427 66 Corvette engines. The L89 427. And on and on. Yes engines today are rated differently than those of the 60's. But the 60's supercar engines were definitely putting out the ponies. I dont know. I always have been told and read that the gross HP from engines in the 60s, although many times underrated for insurance purposes, were about 60% of today's numbers (SAE NET). Now the 10.3 second car may have been an exception but rarely you hear muscle cars from the 60s do the 1/4 below 13.0 even with today's tires. A sidenote on this, mostly irrelevant, the reason the Z06 LS7 was upped to 505HP is because GM followed the latest standards of HP rating put forward by...not sure...the SAE? So the +5HP came from that fact only. The engine was not retuned. |
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