Chevrolet: Camaro News
12-12-2007, 05:29 AM
#402
I would really, really have a difficult time choosing between a fully restored '69 Hugger Orange RS/SS w/ a 396 and this new Camaro with an LS3 in it. I hope once I graduate college I'll have a good enough paying job to afford one of these. 
12-12-2007, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
cool!
now, i wonder if GM will ever resurrect the Buick GNX next?
now, i wonder if GM will ever resurrect the Buick GNX next?
It looks like the Camaro is smaller than a Mustang. I was afraid it was going to be enormous.
12-12-2007, 12:37 PM
#407
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Speaking of Transformers, anyone else put your name in the hat to win a Bumblebee replica? 
About the same time this comes out:
Dodge Challenger will be out
Ford is working on "next" version of the 'Stang
2009-2010 will be good "new classic" years....at least for American muscle
About the same time this comes out:
Dodge Challenger will be out
Ford is working on "next" version of the 'Stang
2009-2010 will be good "new classic" years....at least for American muscle
12-12-2007, 06:44 PM
#408
** 2010 Camaro spyshot: production prototype with barely any camoflage *
top pic/story on http://www.camaro5.com
Guess the Camaro fans can sleep soundly at night since it looks pretty close to the concept car :lol:
Guess the Camaro fans can sleep soundly at night since it looks pretty close to the concept car :lol:
12-12-2007, 09:55 PM
#409
GM is stupid for not releasing the 5th gen F-Body in 2003. Instead, they stopped all production, and OBVIOUSLY since there is now less competition for the Mustang, Mustang sales have been up and haven't stopped going up.
I'm sure the main reason why the 5th gen Camaro's styling is influenced by the 1st gen is because of the success of the 5th gen Mustang with the retro styling. Worked for Ford, must work for them, right?
GM is always following Ford's lead in the Pony Car wars.... when will they learn? They did the right thing with the 4th gen, releasing it before the 4th gen Mustang was released.
I won't be surprised if their sales don't meet their own expectations. More competition = less sales. At this point they're stealing sales from Ford/Dodge rather than getting their own sales.
I'm sure the main reason why the 5th gen Camaro's styling is influenced by the 1st gen is because of the success of the 5th gen Mustang with the retro styling. Worked for Ford, must work for them, right?
GM is always following Ford's lead in the Pony Car wars.... when will they learn? They did the right thing with the 4th gen, releasing it before the 4th gen Mustang was released.
I won't be surprised if their sales don't meet their own expectations. More competition = less sales. At this point they're stealing sales from Ford/Dodge rather than getting their own sales.
01-03-2008, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
GM is stupid for not releasing the 5th gen F-Body in 2003. Instead, they stopped all production, and OBVIOUSLY since there is now less competition for the Mustang, Mustang sales have been up and haven't stopped going up.
I'm sure the main reason why the 5th gen Camaro's styling is influenced by the 1st gen is because of the success of the 5th gen Mustang with the retro styling. Worked for Ford, must work for them, right?
GM is always following Ford's lead in the Pony Car wars.... when will they learn? They did the right thing with the 4th gen, releasing it before the 4th gen Mustang was released.
I won't be surprised if their sales don't meet their own expectations. More competition = less sales. At this point they're stealing sales from Ford/Dodge rather than getting their own sales.
I'm sure the main reason why the 5th gen Camaro's styling is influenced by the 1st gen is because of the success of the 5th gen Mustang with the retro styling. Worked for Ford, must work for them, right?
GM is always following Ford's lead in the Pony Car wars.... when will they learn? They did the right thing with the 4th gen, releasing it before the 4th gen Mustang was released.
I won't be surprised if their sales don't meet their own expectations. More competition = less sales. At this point they're stealing sales from Ford/Dodge rather than getting their own sales.
I know you own one and if you like it then sincerely I'm happy for you. Once I got over the "holy shit it's fast" feeling there wasn't really much else left for me.
01-03-2008, 01:23 PM
#413
Originally Posted by dom
nasty. i think they tried to follow the concept too closely but without the high dollar materials it's just awful.
01-03-2008, 02:06 PM
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saw the pics and they're taken with a grain of salt...i like the layout, the hoods on the main gauges are a little much, but since it's a prototype you can't pass judgment on anything, till the production model comes out
01-03-2008, 02:12 PM
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I knew they would fawk up the production car. 
While its not a full production car, i doubt much will change from this. Guess we will see. (interior speaking of course)
While its not a full production car, i doubt much will change from this. Guess we will see. (interior speaking of course)
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01-03-2008, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jz-97-c7
saw the pics and they're taken with a grain of salt...i like the layout, the hoods on the main gauges are a little much, but since it's a prototype you can't pass judgment on anything, till the production model comes out
I don't mind the gauges but that center console is a mess IMO. As is the steering wheel.
They should have a look at the GTO.
01-03-2008, 02:56 PM
#418
The sizzle in the Steak
That interior?!?!?!?!?! 
I thought GM was turning things around as far as interiors went.....not with the Camaro.
Interior = FAIL!
01-03-2008, 04:35 PM
#419
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I don't think there's a 2dr in their near future.
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01-03-2008, 04:38 PM
#420
The sizzle in the Steak
With GM completely failing on the Camaro interior.........
I wonder how bad the Challenger interior is going to be
I wonder how bad the Challenger interior is going to be
01-03-2008, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
That interior?!?!?!?!?! I thought GM was turning things around as far as interiors went.....not with the Camaro.
Interior = FAIL!
A lot of the center stack still looks taped up and not final...but otherwise it pretty much look slike the concept which you said you loved.
01-03-2008, 10:55 PM
#422
Didn't like the concept interior or this one. 
That whole retro interior look is terrible. Gauge pods look awful, two-tiered dash looks weird, and the shifter looks like a phallic member. It may not be shiny black plastic in the end, but it still looks worse than my car's dated interior.
No offense taken. 
I've gotten used to people criticizing my car, you can't please everyone. I was the biggest critic until I got out and drove it. I'm sure you know there are people out there who don't like the MS3 for whatever reason... I'm not one of them though. Me, being 19, would be more appropriate buying this car now rather than when I hit 40. I have the t-tops and it doesn't squeak, rattle or make any funny noises, though there is a leak in the pinion seal, which most rear-drive GMs have. That's about it, and its a 7 year old car.
Point is they don't market the Camaro towards people who put luxury and refinement first and foremost. I'm one of those people.
That whole retro interior look is terrible. Gauge pods look awful, two-tiered dash looks weird, and the shifter looks like a phallic member. It may not be shiny black plastic in the end, but it still looks worse than my car's dated interior.
Originally Posted by charliemike
No offense man but the 4th gen was a big engine in a really substandard car. One of the least refined cars I've ever driven. Yeah it was fast as hell but all the creaking and rattling (mind you this was in a car with less than 100 miles on it) would get old in a hurry. Biggest mistake GM made was inflicting T-Tops on people. That car was simply too flimsy to have the roof cut out of it like that.
I know you own one and if you like it then sincerely I'm happy for you. Once I got over the "holy shit it's fast" feeling there wasn't really much else left for me.
I know you own one and if you like it then sincerely I'm happy for you. Once I got over the "holy shit it's fast" feeling there wasn't really much else left for me.
I've gotten used to people criticizing my car, you can't please everyone. I was the biggest critic until I got out and drove it. I'm sure you know there are people out there who don't like the MS3 for whatever reason... I'm not one of them though. Me, being 19, would be more appropriate buying this car now rather than when I hit 40. I have the t-tops and it doesn't squeak, rattle or make any funny noises, though there is a leak in the pinion seal, which most rear-drive GMs have. That's about it, and its a 7 year old car.Point is they don't market the Camaro towards people who put luxury and refinement first and foremost. I'm one of those people.
01-03-2008, 11:12 PM
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Interior = FAIL
01-11-2008, 11:35 AM
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The interior you see in those pics is not final. According to Fbodfather, the interior is only 30% complete, meaning that what you see in those pics is a mash up of items and not the final look or materials that will be used. I don't think GM would be that dumb to have that bad of an interior on a production model.
01-11-2008, 12:13 PM
#425
http://www.camaro5.com just posted this pic of the front of the new Camaro
http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread....jpg[/img]
http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread....jpg[/img]
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01-11-2008, 12:57 PM
#426
The sizzle in the Steak
Originally Posted by Sarlacc
A lot of the center stack still looks taped up and not final...but otherwise it pretty much look slike the concept which you said you loved.
Sure I loved the concept interior...and this is not the concept interior.
01-11-2008, 01:15 PM
#427
I love cars!
Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
No offense taken. I've gotten used to people criticizing my car, you can't please everyone. I was the biggest critic until I got out and drove it. I'm sure you know there are people out there who don't like the MS3 for whatever reason... I'm not one of them though. Me, being 19, would be more appropriate buying this car now rather than when I hit 40. I have the t-tops and it doesn't squeak, rattle or make any funny noises, though there is a leak in the pinion seal, which most rear-drive GMs have. That's about it, and its a 7 year old car.
Point is they don't market the Camaro towards people who put luxury and refinement first and foremost. I'm one of those people.
I've gotten used to people criticizing my car, you can't please everyone. I was the biggest critic until I got out and drove it. I'm sure you know there are people out there who don't like the MS3 for whatever reason... I'm not one of them though. Me, being 19, would be more appropriate buying this car now rather than when I hit 40. I have the t-tops and it doesn't squeak, rattle or make any funny noises, though there is a leak in the pinion seal, which most rear-drive GMs have. That's about it, and its a 7 year old car.Point is they don't market the Camaro towards people who put luxury and refinement first and foremost. I'm one of those people.
02-12-2008, 02:52 PM
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Some new spy shots...looks kinda like an hhr from the front in those pics 
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2009-...ots-ii/636965/
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2009-...ots-ii/636965/
02-12-2008, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by theBroodwich
Some new spy shots...looks kinda like an hhr from the front in those pics
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2009-...ots-ii/636965/
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2009-...ots-ii/636965/
HHR 
I think it looks good. Lets just hope they dont ruin it with a bad interior
02-12-2008, 03:04 PM
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Spy Shots: Chevy Camaro prototypes spotted in Detroit
Posted Feb 12th 2008 11:57AM by John Neff
Filed under: Spy Photos, Coupes, Sports/GTs, Chevrolet
click above for a total of six new Chevy Camaro spy shots
Spy photographers from KGP Photography have finally caught the Camaro in the automotive industry's epicenter. In the past, the General has only tested Camaro mules wearing heavily modified Holden Commodore bodies in the U.S. These pics, however, show a pair of Camaro prototypes, one festooned with camouflage and one completely bare (the way Bob Lutz likes it) in Detroit City. We're of course interested in the prototype that's sans camo. Aside from a few details like the grille and headlights, you're looking at the Camaro that will go into production next February. The other vehicle, meanwhile, was reportedly fresh off the boat from Australia, which is why it's still wearing camo and features Aussie-spec red and amber taillights. Take a look at the many spy shots in our gallery below and wait patiently like the rest of us for the Camaro to finally reenter production.
[Photos: KGP Photography]
Gallery: 2009 Chevy Camaro - spy shots II
Posted Feb 12th 2008 11:57AM by John Neff
Filed under: Spy Photos, Coupes, Sports/GTs, Chevrolet
click above for a total of six new Chevy Camaro spy shots
Spy photographers from KGP Photography have finally caught the Camaro in the automotive industry's epicenter. In the past, the General has only tested Camaro mules wearing heavily modified Holden Commodore bodies in the U.S. These pics, however, show a pair of Camaro prototypes, one festooned with camouflage and one completely bare (the way Bob Lutz likes it) in Detroit City. We're of course interested in the prototype that's sans camo. Aside from a few details like the grille and headlights, you're looking at the Camaro that will go into production next February. The other vehicle, meanwhile, was reportedly fresh off the boat from Australia, which is why it's still wearing camo and features Aussie-spec red and amber taillights. Take a look at the many spy shots in our gallery below and wait patiently like the rest of us for the Camaro to finally reenter production.
[Photos: KGP Photography]
Gallery: 2009 Chevy Camaro - spy shots II
02-13-2008, 01:12 AM
#431
Originally Posted by fsttyms1
HHR I think it looks good. Lets just hope they dont ruin it with a bad interior
One things for sure though.... on that last pic with the trapezoid-shaped camo, those amber tail lights are ugly! Keep all four of 'em red....
02-13-2008, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
I don't get it either.
One things for sure though.... on that last pic with the trapezoid-shaped camo, those amber tail lights are ugly! Keep all four of 'em red....
One things for sure though.... on that last pic with the trapezoid-shaped camo, those amber tail lights are ugly! Keep all four of 'em red....
They will all be red. That test Mule is fresh from Australia (where Holden was conducting some of the testing). The Yellow lights are just for Australian Street-legal laws (O or thats what they say on camaro5.com anyways) You can see that the other mule has the all red ones.
03-16-2008, 12:41 AM
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In black, mostly uncovered.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3139
This thing needs to be lowered and have some bigger wheels.. then
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3139
This thing needs to be lowered and have some bigger wheels.. then
03-16-2008, 12:46 AM
#434
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
In black, mostly uncovered.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3139
This thing needs to be lowered and have some bigger wheels.. then
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3139
This thing needs to be lowered and have some bigger wheels.. then
Those taillights look like ass. Pontiac Solstice BS.
Bigger wheels and lowering and it's suite!
They look tiny on that car.
03-16-2008, 11:56 AM
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Nice!
03-16-2008, 12:44 PM
#440
For the love of all that is holy please change back to the original headlights and this time maybe make an RS package available where it covers part of the headlights instead of being a V6 with a body kit
It looks kinda like ass now, honestly I'd rather get a C6 or a G8 if it weighs as much as I think it will.... what the hell is up with those headlights and the chrome around the tail lights?
lol @ the orange peel
It looks kinda like ass now, honestly I'd rather get a C6 or a G8 if it weighs as much as I think it will.... what the hell is up with those headlights and the chrome around the tail lights?
lol @ the orange peel