srika

holy geez..... pass.

give me a C6 convertible and extra $$ to mod it to around 700hp or so

cob3683

It doesn't

cob3683

Agree on the SL500's. However, Caddy should have upped the hp in this to compete with the SL55. This car would really be making some noise had GM put around 500hp in it and kept the price around $100K.

Minch00

There is no way in hell the Ford GT is overpriced, nor is this XLR-V. If you look at this car's competition, which is the SL500, for the price of the MB you get 302bhp, and for the XLR-V you get 440bhp. And the Caddy will almost certainly be more reliable. I'd rather stand out in a crowd than be "just another SL-driver".

ali.ahmed

i know its a great car for the price, but what about the non-auto enthuasist market? will they see cadillac the same way as they see other luxury brands?

phile

I don't know how much exclusivity it will buy. It's not like you see an SL around every corner, anyway. I'd take the Mercedes over the Caddy anyday. Even in its top brand GM doesn't go it all, the XLR'-Vs interior IMO does not command the 100K price tag.

stangg172004

no thanks ill take an M5....

Minch00

Good job comparing a V10 sports sedan to a V8 hardtop two-seat convertible

SpeedyV6

especially the part about the Ford GT.

Maximized

Cadillac priced this car out of the market for a handful of reasons. Consumers looking at cars in this price range won't buy a 100K GM product. Cadillac's simply don't have the brand prestige and/or quality to command this type of price. Cadillac should have priced this vehicle no more than 85K. GM needs to get a clue that they have an average product and need to differentiate their products by being cheaper than the competition. I guess they forgot about the Allante.

phile

The only difference I see between the regular XLR's interior and the XLR-V's interior is that the top portion of the dash, as well as the extension over the doors, is wrapped in leather. And the V-badge. What "extensive" use of leather wrapped surfaces are they talking about?

ali.ahmed

that may be it. Where else do you want leather?

titan

You beat me to the question, lol. The regular XLR already makes good use of leather. The V gets covered with it just about everywhere possible. They did a good job with the interior.

cM3go

that interior is kinda blah

Moog-Type-S

The materials may be of quality but the design is boring.
GM has much to learn on interior designs that excite.

For under 100k this interior is much better IMHO

Minch00

Cadillac used to be THE brand for cars. The ultimate in luxury. It's amazing how in less than 50 years people forget that. There is a reason why things are called "The Cadillac of (insert genre here". This car IS cheaper than it's competition, which is really only one car, as discussed before. So I'm really not sure what you're on about.

phile

Well since we're comparing it to the SL, you might want to check the SL500's interior. or a handful of other cars in this price range, for that matter. Even the now 15-year old NSX has full leather lining the entire cabin. But I was really calling out their use of the word "extensive" in the press release when talking about the interior use of leather.

phile

Look closely - the dash is still plastic, as is the center console beneath the wood and metal. I'm just comparing it to other cars in which this XLR-V is intended to compete, especially the SL500 whose interior use of leather leaves the XLR-V far behind.

Minch00

The more I look at that, the more those seats do NOT look comfortable...........

teg_to_bike

The instrument cluster on the Caddy looks like it came out of a Cavalier.

MattT516

In terms of performance, the Ford GT is a great buy for its price. The fact still remains, however, that people are not going to throw down $150k for a Ford or $100k for a Cadillac. If you ask people that can actually afford a Ford GT if they'd rather have a FORD or a Ferrari F430, they'd opt for the Ferrari. It's more or less about the badge, which we really will never understand because we love cars and others really don't care much. Tell me that most people in that segment, other than hardcore enthusiasts, care about 302 hp vs 440 hp.

For the record, if I had $100k and I was looking for a sports car, I'd be hopping into a Maserati Spyder or a Porsche 911 Turbo, not even an SL500. The SL500 is a pig. I don't want a $100k 2-seater sports car that'll get run down by a 350Z any day of the week.

Minch00

Guess I'll tell that to the guy driving the black GT I saw last night



That car is sooooooooooo sexy in person. It's louder than a bus under slow acceleration.

cusdaddy

The Ford GT has no problem selling.. Hell, it sells WAY above sticker. It is not only a Ford, it is a GT, a car legend. Actually, many would rather have a Ford GT other than a Ferrari and a F430 is easily over $200k so it is not a 1 to 1 comparison.

cusdaddy

SO true. I like the styling of the SL, but I see so damn many of them around here, the luster is way gone. I'd never spend that cash on a car I see 10 a day of.

Moog-Type-S

Beltfed

Oh please, yeah it looks just like a Cavalier.....what a stupid thing to say. Basically, most of the interior is real aluminum, wood, leather, and suede.

Anyway, the rear deck is also leather wrapped along with the roll bars.

Also, the Maserati Spyder is a dated piece of shit with a cloth top that is beyond not stiff. The interior is also a bit lack luster (material wise), I've checked out a few over the years.

Maximized

Who cares what they used to be....Hondas, Toyotas, and Nissans used to be huge piles of shit. The XLRV is overpriced for what you get. Sit in any Cadillac and then sit in a German car and you will see. Listen to the sound of a Cadillac door as it closes and compare it to a German car. Cadillac's brand right now doesn't command a 100K pricetag.

Beltfed

Most don't, just the XLR-V does and less than 1k will be made per year.

What is the fuss all about? Its overpriced, just like every other premium convertible out there.

The engine is handbuilt at GMs performance center, its an expensive car for people with $$.

fsttyms1

I infact did that at the last auto show and thought that they were on par with each other. The fact remains that too many people have the 80's caddy in their head and its cheap quaility, They are infact gaining on their rivals. If GM wants to scuceed they need to continue to update and ground break on their interiors Which are what suffers the most criticism

Moog-Type-S

Seriously, be honest. That gauge cluster in the Cady is a snore-fest. It doesn't come any where close to converying a sport or roadster image. The gauge design is pathetic. The interior materials are nice, but the overall design does not excite. Props to GM for using good materials, but they have alot to learn about sporty interior designs.

teg_to_bike

I don't think its a stupid thing to say at all.

I'm talking about the tach and speedo. Its pretty old-school for $100K car standards. Its old-school for $30K car standards.

wtf, do you work for Cadillac or something?

Moog-Type-S

Some people like boring interiors

Beltfed

Nope, just giving credit where credit is due.

The gauge design could be a little more exciting, but doesn't look that bad in person.

Boring interior? Yeah the SL has such a hot exciting interior..lol.

cusdaddy

My friend's father works at a Cadillac dealership and I've been in the XLR many times. While the interior is somewhat boring looking, it is very well put together and overall a nice package. The SL's interior looks snazzier but the materials don't feel as solid

Minch00

To be honest, do you really think Cadillac is on par with people's mindset towards Honda/Toyota, etc? To many people, Cadillac is the pinnacle of luxury, even when it isn't. The XLR is for the people who grew up with the big fins and the color pink readily available on their Caddys, and can now afford to buy one. Go be a Continent-whore if you'd like, I'll be in my XLR-V cruising past when your SL is on the roadside paging assistance for itself.


Cadillac will sell everyone of these it produces. End of story.

cusdaddy

srika

let's take a closer look...... are these gauges really all that bad????

notice it says "BVLGARI" on the bezel of the speedo.... well now SEE!????! THIS is why it costs so much. hey, if you want the finer things in life, you gotta pay.

the fonts used in GM interiors has been a pet-peeve of mine since the late 80's..... using better fonts would work WONDERS for these cars...

titan

Wow, you read my mind. It'll save me from responding to that original quote with an "I'm with stupid" smiley. You're absolutely right; and it's refreshing to read it on this thread. Cadillac's resurrection hasn't completed yet... it's just getting started. And pricing this car at six figures was the right decision.

stangg172004

i was thinkin for the money. If i was looking for a roadster, 100K for this thing would change my mind.

titan

Hehehe, yep.