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Cadillac: Escalade News
Cadillac to extend high-performance 'V' strategy to Escalade - - - By RICHARD TRUETT | Automotive News
Some excerts: "The Cadillac Escalade luxury SUV will muscle into the fast lane with a V-10 or V-12 engine, possibly as early as the 2006 model year." "Engineers are testing on Detroit roads at least four high-performance engines in a fleet of Escalades. "You will find Cadillacs running around with higher-output V-8s, running around with V-10s (and) V-12s," Stephens says, "and you will find even one variant with even more cylinders." " More cylinders? :eek: |
great, raps stars and soccer moms with too much power in another SUV :rolleyes:
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yea i'm not sure i like the idea of a high performance escalade.
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will it be able to compete with the (ohh who made that custom SUV) Ligenfelter Navigator? Was that it? Or was it an escalade? I forget.
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thats a waste
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great, raps stars and soccer moms with too much power in another SUV |
Originally posted by sarlacc23 great, raps stars and soccer moms with too much power in another SUV :rolleyes: This wont be cheap when introduced. V12s are very expensive to build. |
Originally posted by pimpscls thats a waste |
Just great, I can see some rap star losing control of the Escalade-V at 100mph and it will make a spectacular rollover and crash folowed by an impressive col of smoke.
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i saw a supercharged escalade the other day. the woman driving it looked like she stole it. that thing was hella fast and it had a mean exhaust note. def a bad ass truck.
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how about a new interior first
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c&d tested the twin turbo ext version
Lingenfelter Performance Engineering, 1557 Winchester Road, Decatur, Indiana 46733; 260-724-2552; www.lingenfelter.com. Vehicle type: front-engine, 4-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 5-door truck Price as tested: $126,620 (base price*: $124,500) Engine type: twin-turbocharged and intercooled pushrod 16-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, GM/LPE engine-control system with port fuel injection Displacement: 428 cu in, 7008cc Power (SAE net): 700 bhp @ 5200 rpm Torque (SAE net): 740 lb-ft @ 4600 rpm Transmission: 4-speed automatic with lockup torque converter Wheelbase: 130.0 in Length: 221.4 in Curb weight: 5709 lb Zero to 60 mph 4.0 sec Zero to 100 mph: 11.1 sec Zero to 130 mph: 21.2 sec Street start, 5-60 mph: 4.5 sec Standing 1/4-mile: 12.7 sec @ 106 mph Braking, 70-0 mph: 182 ft Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.83 g EPA fuel economy, city driving: 11 mpg *Base price includes all performance-enhancing options. |
Originally posted by gavriil You make it sound like this will be a $40K SUV and hundreds of thousands of people will buy it. This wont be cheap when introduced. V12s are very expensive to build. I on the other hand live in LA, the land of 1)rich assholes 2)people who lease these cars they cant really afford, but fake it anyway. So out here, yeah shitloads of people will buy them. |
Originally posted by sarlacc23 I on the other hand live in LA and shitloads of people will buy them. |
Originally posted by heyitsme c&d tested the twin turbo ext version Lingenfelter Performance Engineering, 1557 Winchester Road, Decatur, Indiana 46733; 260-724-2552; www.lingenfelter.com. Vehicle type: front-engine, 4-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 5-door truck Price as tested: $126,620 (base price*: $124,500) Engine type: twin-turbocharged and intercooled pushrod 16-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, GM/LPE engine-control system with port fuel injection Displacement: 428 cu in, 7008cc Power (SAE net): 700 bhp @ 5200 rpm Torque (SAE net): 740 lb-ft @ 4600 rpm Transmission: 4-speed automatic with lockup torque converter Wheelbase: 130.0 in Length: 221.4 in Curb weight: 5709 lb Zero to 60 mph 4.0 sec Zero to 100 mph: 11.1 sec Zero to 130 mph: 21.2 sec Street start, 5-60 mph: 4.5 sec Standing 1/4-mile: 12.7 sec @ 106 mph Braking, 70-0 mph: 182 ft Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.83 g EPA fuel economy, city driving: 11 mpg *Base price includes all performance-enhancing options. Holy shit. 100 per liter from a 7 liter V8. That aint easy even with turbocharging. |
Originally posted by sarlacc23 You are right, for most parts of the country. I on the other hand live in LA, the land of 1)rich assholes 2)people who lease these cars they cant really afford, but fake it anyway. So out here, yeah shitloads of people will buy them. |
And Atlanta is a knock-off LA with the wanna bees. We are both in trouble.
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Originally posted by kansaiwalker1 Just great, I can see some rap star losing control of the Escalade-V at 100mph and it will make a spectacular rollover and crash folowed by an impressive col of smoke. |
Thieves pick Cadillac Escalade EXT pickup as their favorite
Thieves pick Cadillac pickup as their favorite
By Dee-Ann Durbin / Associated Press WASHINGTON -- The Cadillac Escalade EXT, a $53,000 chrome-trimmed luxury pickup with leather bucket seats, a seven-speaker stereo system with satellite radio and a global tracking system, is the vehicle most targeted by thieves, a study by the insurance industry found. It’s the second year in a row that an Escalade has been at the top of the list, which was released Tuesday by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. The Escalade sport utility vehicle topped last year’s list; this year, that SUV is third. The Nissan Maxima, a midsize sedan, is the second most likely to be stolen among newer vehicles. The Maxima’s theft rate went up after the company began installing expensive, high-intensity headlights as standard equipment in 2002, the institute said. The institute calculated which newer vehicles are most likely to be stolen by looking at theft claims per 1,000 insured vehicles from model years 2001 to 2003. The Escalade EXT had a claim rate of 20.2. The lowest-ranking vehicles -- the Buick LeSabre, Buick Park Avenue and Ford Taurus station wagon -- had claim rates of 0.5. The Escalade EXT, which starts at $53,665, debuted in 2002. Owners often add custom wheels and spinning rims that can increase the vehicle’s cost by more than $10,000 -- and help make it seven to eight times more likely to be stolen than the average new vehicle. “Stolen Escalades are sometimes found resting on blocks without their wheels,” said Kim Hazelbaker, senior vice president of the insurance institute’s Highway Loss Data Institute. Hazelbaker said the Escalade EXT has a standard anti-theft ignition immobilizer, which prevents the vehicle from being started without the right key, but it may not be as effective as newer systems. General Motors Corp. spokeswoman Kelly Wysocki confirmed that the Pass-lock system, which is on all current Escalades as well as 2005 models, is aging and said GM is considering a change soon. A design change may cut down on theft rates for the Maxima. The 2004 Maxima has headlights that won’t fit into earlier models, so the theft rate may go down because thieves won’t be trying to steal the headlights to put on older models, Hazelbaker said. Russ Rader, a spokesman for the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, said immobilizers have been the most effective way to stop thefts. Rader said, however, that no prevention efforts are perfect. “The bottom line is that if a determined thief wants your vehicle, there’s not a whole lot that you can do,” Rader said. The institute said overall theft claims have declined steadily from an average of about 15 per 1,000 insured vehicles in 1980 to 2.5 in 2003. At the same time, the average insurance payment per theft claim has been rising. The average insurance payout for an Escalade EXT theft claim is $14,939, compared to $5,928 for all vehicles. The insurance institute’s list is one of several most-stolen vehicle lists released each year. In May, Chicago-based CCC Information Services Inc. said the 1995 Saturn SL was the nation’s most stolen vehicle based on the ratio of thefts to registered vehicles. The insurance institute says that list tends to reflect the most popular vehicles on the road rather than the most likely to be stolen. On the Net: Insurance Institute for Highway Safety: http://www.iihs.org |
Thieves? Oh you mean rappers...
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:thief:
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This is expected. Idiot buyers, Idiot thieves. Just a bunch of idiots.
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the Buick LeSabre, Buick Park Avenue and Ford Taurus station wagon -- had claim rates of 0.5. |
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
This is expected. Idiot buyers, Idiot thieves. Just a bunch of idiots.
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I wonder how many get stolen outta Detroit. :thief:
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GM enlists celebrities to critique new Cadillac Escalade
General Motors enlists celebrities to critique new Cadillac Escalade - - By JASON STEIN | Automotive News - - Source: Autoweek
Eighteen months ago on a Hollywood sound stage, General Motors hosted a hush-hush meeting for 35 of the biggest names in entertainment. No names were publicized. Videotaped remarks were kept private. One new vehicle was unveiled. This trendsetting group included NBA and NHL stars. It included TV actors, movie producers, hip-hop artists and jazz musicians. Some were teenagers, others were 40 years old. These tastemakers had gathered to see the 2007 Cadillac Escalade, which debuts next January. They are a small but significant band of trendsetters that Cadillac is consulting for its future product. The sneak preview marks a significant change in GM's marketing strategy. When the current Escalade debuted in 2001, it was a hit with athletes and hip-hop artists who loved its roomy interior and in-your-face styling. Caught by surprise, Cadillac had done nothing special to cultivate them. But this time, it sought out the trendsetters to catalog their likes and dislikes -- and generate buzz. "We wanted to put the Escalade out in front of the people recognized as understanding 'cool,' " says Cadillac Marketing Director Jay Spenchian. "We wanted to see if they thought we were headed in the right direction. That way we still had time to make some modifications if we needed to." Brainstorm session The sneak preview took shape in late summer 2003 during a brainstorming session attended by GM executives including Chairman Rick Wagoner and John Smith, group vice president for vehicle sales. "Is there any way to get current and future Escalades in front of them to see if it's the right direction?" Wagoner asked. Smith and the Cadillac team arranged a special focus group. One day in September 2003, GM ushered the tastemakers to the studio for back-to-back sneak previews. Most of the influencers in the group owned at least one Escalade. Attending the Hollywood sessions were GM design chief Ed Welburn, Cadillac Vehicle Line Director Gary White, Cadillac Marketing General Manager Mark LaNeve, Escalade Marketing Director Kim McGill, Spenchian and the Escalade's design directors. Behind the curtain Spenchian declined to identify the VIPs, but one source says some of the attendees included NBA players from the Los Angeles Lakers and Clippers, several leading actors from the TV sitcom "That '70s Show" and some of the celebrities invited to GM's pre-Oscar fashion show last week. The 30-minute sessions ran from 1:30 p.m. to 9 p.m. One by one, each tastemaker navigated a labyrinth of large black curtains that separated several vehicles. Behind each curtain was a new model bathed in dramatic lighting. Each VIP saw the Cadillac Sixteen concept sedan, followed by the current Escalade. They viewed the "Matrix" special-edition model of the Cadillac Escalade EXT, as seen in the movie by the same name, plus a prototype Escalade ESV Platinum edition, a vehicle with two ceiling-mounted TV screens and 20-inch chrome wheels. Behind the final curtain was a black foam model of the 2007 Escalade, with a newly created clay model interior. Hidden cameras captured the tastemakers' reactions. "We watched where their eyes went initially," says Cadillac spokesman Jeff Kuhlman, who attended the event. The tastemakers did not recommend any significant changes to the sheet metal, which was just as well, since GM already had locked in the Escalade's exterior styling. Focus groups are more commonly employed earlier in a vehicle's development, while there's still time for GM to alter the sheet metal. But for the new Escalade, other adjustments were still possible. A lot of input Cadillac learned a lot during the preview. The tastemakers offered suggestions for new colors and trim, wheels, the audio system, engine choices, exhaust modifications and placement of the Cadillac crest. "That crest," Welburn says. "I heard over and over they wanted it large in the front and large in the rear and on the wheels and other unique areas." Each tastemaker also had a chance to spell out his or her preferences in one-on-one chats with a designer. Normally, GM designers don't get instant feedback from focus group participants, Spenchian says. But a problem arose: Some athletes stretched their 30-minute briefings into two-hour sessions. "I was given the assignment of moving the NBA stars out of the way," Welburn says. "Most of them didn't want to leave." One VIP attendee was rapper Xzibit, emcee of MTV's "Pimp My Ride," a hit TV show that offers a tongue-in-cheek glimpse of the good life on wheels. Xzibit suggested modifications such as a rear hatch window that could be lowered and larger DVD screens -- "certain things you wish you could see in a car." "Cadillac knows that we, as hip-hop artists, are spokesmen for some of their products," says Xzibit, who owns a Hummer H2. "We add a lot of aftermarket accessories to their cars. And if they can beat us to the punch -- if they can find out what we'd do after they make it -- they could put it into production first." After the briefing, GM made subtle changes to the Escalade's color palette, wheel sizes and interior. Cadillac also will create an advertising campaign that plays off the tastemakers' reaction to the vehicle. Not everyone at GM thought the use of the influencers was a great idea. Spenchian says some staffers considered data from the VIP focus group to be unscientific -- therefore a waste of time. "But, ultimately, we were impressed by the results," Spenchian says. Cadillac will use VIP focus groups for selected vehicles such as the next-generation Cadillac CTS. Says Spenchian: "Rather than us sitting around thinking something is cool, why not get others who are cool to verify that for us?" |
I think GM is wasting their time talking to the above crowd. That's not who buys their cars in volume and not enough people are seriously influenced by what Xzibit wants.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
I think GM is wasting their time talking to the above crowd. That's not who buys their cars in volume and not enough people are seriously influenced by what Xzibit wants.
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GM isnt wasting their time... if it wasnt for those celeb more people would be driving navigators than escalades. watch almost any music video and you'll see an escalade. the people who watch it want to go out and buy one and 'pimp' it out. then the avg joe who doesnt watch videos or know much about cars sees them out on the streets and wants one.
really, escalades were not that popular until they hit the urban scene. |
are there any spy pics out there, or are they keeping this very hush hush?
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I agree with Infamous. The only reason Lincoln's Navigator really flourished was because Puff Daddy was sporting one. Look how the second gen flopped when everyone flocked to the redesigned Escalade.
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Originally Posted by titan
I agree 100%. I could car less about Xzibit, and chrome all over the place, IMO. This car is already to outrageous, and this foucs group wants bigger crests on the front, rear, and wheels? Damn. I was really hoping that the next Escalade would have a restrained, tasteful exterior. Not boring, but refinied, like the Range Rover, while keeping it's current size. Or whatever huge size the GMT900 brings us. All I ask is that the interior is upgraded, and completely unique to the Escalade.
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the interior of the current escalade is horrible, it looks like a suburban. And i still don't know wahts to special about it
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I dunno, kinda hard to tell. Think people buy these vehicles mainly because they are big and are at the top of the suv ladders for each company, status. The Navigator outsold the reg Escalade in Feb 2524 to 2021. Even the new Infiniti QX managed to gain some market with 1126 and the company really isn't even that mainstream.
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cool... I mentioned this a while back, but it was really just a rumor in the car forums, but it seems like we have a confirmation now.
Junkster, who wonders who the celebs were |
Next Gen. Cadillac Escalade News **Spied exposed (page 1)**
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Pretty nice. I'd like to see the front end.
Better placement of the white text box as well compared to the Tahoe pics |
Looks good so far. Other than the SRX and the Catera, I've been a fan of pretty much everything offered up by Cadillac in the last decade or so.
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Oh man, where is that front end pic...
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I know, no front pic........surprised the guy who took the photos didn't get it.
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