C&D comparo: RL vs A6 V8 vs 530i vs STS V8 vs M45 vs S-Type V8 vs GS430 vs E350
03-25-2005, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by goldmemberer
Not offering a more potent engine is the only bad choice they made but seeing that the car is less than a year old, it's really not too late to release a V8 version (like it's gonna happen).
I don't really care for the V8 thing, I know the subject is trite. Was talking about the market moreso than myself.
03-25-2005, 07:56 PM
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I think at the very least they need a hybrid version. That alone would make up anything lost by not having a v8. Lexus marketing their hybrid GS would also positively effect RL hybrid sales.
V6 IMA 350hp sounds very nice in RL...
03-25-2005, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SeCsTaC
Man i think the RL needs more torque rather than HP. Both the GS430 and RL have 300hp, but the GS430 is atleast a full second faster.
The 6-speed auto in the Lexus has a substansial effect also.
03-25-2005, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SeCsTaC
Man i think the RL needs more torque rather than HP. Both the GS430 and RL have 300hp, but the GS430 is atleast a full second faster.
Lexus claimed 5.9s 0-60 for GS430, while C&D got 6.6s for RL.
03-26-2005, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MSZ
GS430 is faster, but not that fast I think.
Lexus claimed 5.9s 0-60 for GS430, while C&D got 6.6s for RL.
Lexus claimed 5.9s 0-60 for GS430, while C&D got 6.6s for RL.
03-27-2005, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
Wide tires will only make the car even slower, especially with the low-end-torque deprived V6.
03-27-2005, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
I think at the very least they need a hybrid version. That alone would make up anything lost by not having a v8. Lexus marketing their hybrid GS would also positively effect RL hybrid sales.
I have been thinking about this for a while. Think about this guys:
If Acura does to the RL what LExus has done to the RX400h for about 5K increase in price, it would be THE UNBEATABLE DEAL in the class. It will make it the undisputable winner right now (excluding what the others can do by then). But if IMA is incorporated to the RL next year and the RL now makes 375HP with A TON of low end torque, has the SHAWD and does 20/30 on the gas consumption, for $55K, who can touch that thing in the class? BMW will lose sales from both the 5 and the 7 series, same for Lexus with the GS and LS, etc.
03-27-2005, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by goldmemberer
When a car company claims "5.9," you know it'll be over 6 in practice. They just wanted to tout "under 6 seconds" shit. Fast car, no doubt.
I expect the GS430 to be well under 6 seconds for the 0-60 run. I would not be surprised with consistent 5.7s from it.
03-28-2005, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SeCsTaC
Man i think the RL needs more torque rather than HP. Both the GS430 and RL have 300hp, but the GS430 is atleast a full second faster.
03-28-2005, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Exactly.
I have been thinking about this for a while. Think about this guys:
If Acura does to the RL what LExus has done to the RX400h for about 5K increase in price, it would be THE UNBEATABLE DEAL in the class. It will make it the undisputable winner right now (excluding what the others can do by then). But if IMA is incorporated to the RL next year and the RL now makes 375HP with A TON of low end torque, has the SHAWD and does 20/30 on the gas consumption, for $55K, who can touch that thing in the class? BMW will lose sales from both the 5 and the 7 series, same for Lexus with the GS and LS, etc.
I have been thinking about this for a while. Think about this guys:
If Acura does to the RL what LExus has done to the RX400h for about 5K increase in price, it would be THE UNBEATABLE DEAL in the class. It will make it the undisputable winner right now (excluding what the others can do by then). But if IMA is incorporated to the RL next year and the RL now makes 375HP with A TON of low end torque, has the SHAWD and does 20/30 on the gas consumption, for $55K, who can touch that thing in the class? BMW will lose sales from both the 5 and the 7 series, same for Lexus with the GS and LS, etc.
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