BMW: Z4 News
#324
Safety Car
#325
Pro
I think the new Z4 looks fantastic. I'm glad to find others agree. Interestingly, the ones that don't like it appear mostly to be the current Z4 owners. I have one word for the current Z4 - YUCK.
the new Z4 definitely takes on many cues from the CS Concept first shown in Shanghai. The grille and the interior are the main adoptions. It's quite amazing how the lines work well on this car, especially from the front quarter view, despite the color of the car. The interior is nice. I think that will likely be adopted in some future models.
By the way, the location where the photos are shot is also great - those rocks near the shore.
I never thought I'd get an open top roadster, but seeing this Z4, it changes my mind.
Too bad the economy is bad. Otherwise this model will easily outsell the previous generations.
SDrive sounds pretty stupid. I guess the marketing department will always leave their finger print somewhere.
the new Z4 definitely takes on many cues from the CS Concept first shown in Shanghai. The grille and the interior are the main adoptions. It's quite amazing how the lines work well on this car, especially from the front quarter view, despite the color of the car. The interior is nice. I think that will likely be adopted in some future models.
By the way, the location where the photos are shot is also great - those rocks near the shore.
I never thought I'd get an open top roadster, but seeing this Z4, it changes my mind.
Too bad the economy is bad. Otherwise this model will easily outsell the previous generations.
SDrive sounds pretty stupid. I guess the marketing department will always leave their finger print somewhere.
#326
fap fap fap
#327
I don't think it looks bad but I don't think its that much better looking than the last one which was kind of meh. I think people are impressed anytime BMW makes something that's not fugly these days. And the name needs to go. No need to have paragraphs on the side and rear of the car.
#328
The sizzle in the Steak
Very nice
#330
it looks better with the top down.
Overall it's nicely executed, which is what I simply cannot say about Acura's designs. Love that interior color scheme.
Overall it's nicely executed, which is what I simply cannot say about Acura's designs. Love that interior color scheme.
#333
Senior Moderator
Fast yes but its still 3500lbs.
Press release says 0-60 in 5.1 which is pretty fast. Bet driving it would be a blast though, all that torque in a little car. The FEEL of fast would take on a new meaning. IMO
#334
Race Director
With that much weight I don't see how it would be much different than a 335.
#335
I'll have to wait to see it but I was hoping for a little more Z8 and lot less fat. ( the blue brochure one looks awesome, the Volvo beige one, not so much)
Not a fan of the power top, electric steering, or Idrive, hopefully they'll come out with a lightweight version.
Did I read correctly that there is an 80 gig hard drive and only 15 gig for music- what is the other 65 gig for?
Not a fan of the power top, electric steering, or Idrive, hopefully they'll come out with a lightweight version.
Did I read correctly that there is an 80 gig hard drive and only 15 gig for music- what is the other 65 gig for?
#337
Pro
The weight is partly due to the retractable roof.
The new Z4 will be more nimble than the 4 seaters. BMW is also conservative with 0-60 estimates so expect car magazines like C/D to hit 4.7.
I guess there's always room for a Z2 - soft top and a turbo 4 engine.
Overall the design is terrific. The Z3 is too simple (Mazda Miata like); Z4 is overdone with the flame surfacing and overall a very awkward design. This one is just right - elegance and aggressive at the same time. The same theme of upright grille however doesn't show well on the big 7 series, because the lines on the 7 are just too blunt and not flowing together with the overall shape of the car like the new Z4.
My favorite photo:
The Monaco blue is also fantastic:
The new Z4 will be more nimble than the 4 seaters. BMW is also conservative with 0-60 estimates so expect car magazines like C/D to hit 4.7.
I guess there's always room for a Z2 - soft top and a turbo 4 engine.
Overall the design is terrific. The Z3 is too simple (Mazda Miata like); Z4 is overdone with the flame surfacing and overall a very awkward design. This one is just right - elegance and aggressive at the same time. The same theme of upright grille however doesn't show well on the big 7 series, because the lines on the 7 are just too blunt and not flowing together with the overall shape of the car like the new Z4.
My favorite photo:
The Monaco blue is also fantastic:
#343
Pro
Sorry I made a mistake - that blue is supposed to be Deep Sea Blue. It's a great color.
Price wise, word is that it's more expensive in the UK market, compared to the previous gen. I guess 2-3K increase in possible, given the new powerplants and roof.
Price wise, word is that it's more expensive in the UK market, compared to the previous gen. I guess 2-3K increase in possible, given the new powerplants and roof.
#345
Three Wheelin'
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Me want..
Too bad I think the increase in price will be more than the above speculated 2-3k.
With the hard top and the newer engines, I think the prices will be more inline with the current 3 series convertibles, as well as the SLK
Too bad I think the increase in price will be more than the above speculated 2-3k.
With the hard top and the newer engines, I think the prices will be more inline with the current 3 series convertibles, as well as the SLK
Last edited by supraken; 12-27-2008 at 10:11 AM.
#346
Senior Moderator
Detroit 2009: BMW pulls the cover off the new Z4
by Sam Abuelsamid on Jan 11th 2009 at 2:05PM
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BMW had a Cirque du Soleil wannabe hanging upside down from a curtain to pull the sheets off of the 2010 BMW Z4 at the Detroit Auto Show. The Z4 is the third generation of BMW's small roadster since the original Z3 debuted in the mid-90s. This time around, the company is moving production from South Carolina to Europe to make room for the next gen X3 at Spartanburg. The new Z4 gets a retractable hardtop in place of the soft top, and with only two seats to cover, the proportions don't look as goofy as other hard top convertibles.
The flame surfacing of the last Z4 has been dramatically toned from the last generation, giving a much cleaner look overall. Under the hood, US versions of the Z4 are restricted to 3.0L six cylinder engines with and without turbochargers. No word yet on an M version, but given recent statements from BMW it seems more likely to get a more highly boosted version of the six rather than the M3's V8. The Z4 goes on sale this summer. Expect pricing to be released closer to the sale date.
Gallery: Detroit 2009: BMW Z4
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<small>Click above for a high-res gallery of the 2010 BMW Z4</small>
BMW had a Cirque du Soleil wannabe hanging upside down from a curtain to pull the sheets off of the 2010 BMW Z4 at the Detroit Auto Show. The Z4 is the third generation of BMW's small roadster since the original Z3 debuted in the mid-90s. This time around, the company is moving production from South Carolina to Europe to make room for the next gen X3 at Spartanburg. The new Z4 gets a retractable hardtop in place of the soft top, and with only two seats to cover, the proportions don't look as goofy as other hard top convertibles.
The flame surfacing of the last Z4 has been dramatically toned from the last generation, giving a much cleaner look overall. Under the hood, US versions of the Z4 are restricted to 3.0L six cylinder engines with and without turbochargers. No word yet on an M version, but given recent statements from BMW it seems more likely to get a more highly boosted version of the six rather than the M3's V8. The Z4 goes on sale this summer. Expect pricing to be released closer to the sale date.
Gallery: Detroit 2009: BMW Z4
#348
I miss my 03 CL-S :(
I'm usually not a fan of light colored interiors, but the interior pics on that autoblog set of pics looks fantastic with the mix of light cream+wood+black. Great looking roadster.
#350
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I like it!
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damn I can't really find anything I dont like about the exterior or interior for that matter at all. The lines of the body all just flow perfectly together.
#353
The sizzle in the Steak
I love pretty much everything about it!
#355
2009 BMW Z4 sDrive35i Roadster First Drive
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...hotopanel..1.*
A Star Is Born, Again
By Chris Walton, Chief Road Test Editor
Date posted: 03-19-2009
Cute weekend cars with sporting intentions and overwrought designs. That's been the reputation of BMW's small, slightly pricey Z3 and Z4 roadsters until now.
Unless you were a subscriber to BMW for Life magazine, there was no compelling reason to choose the Z roadster over one of its equally competent competitors.
For 2009, the BMW Z4 finally becomes a serious roadster. More than just a face-lift, some new options and a little bump in power, this Z4 gets a whole new identity. And cute is no longer part of it.
Retro Futurist
Unveiled at this year's Detroit show, the 2009 BMW Z4 sDrive35i looks stunning "in the metal." Slightly longer (5.8 inches), wider (0.4 inch) and lower (0.3 inch), the Z4 now looks a class up from traditional playmates like the Audi TT, Mazda Miata and Mercedes-Benz SLK.
It comes across as a more expensive car than it is. Think modern BMW 507 from the '50s, but add BMW's latest 3.0-liter sixes, an optional seven-speed double-clutch automated manual transmission and a healthy dose of up-to-the minute tech.
And don't forget the new, impossibly compact folding hardtop, an all-aluminum engineering masterpiece that allows this Z4 to take the place of the previous Z4 coupe and roadster.
When and How Much?
On sale May 8, there will be two versions available: A base Z4 sDrive30i ($46,575 including destination fee) effectively will take the place of the current lineup's top-shelf Z4 3.0si ($43,525). A second model, the sDrive35i ($52,475), is a new animal altogether that's more comparable to the outgoing Z4 M ($53,225) in terms of price, engine output and handling capability.
Both models will be offered with a standard six-speed manual transmission, but the sDrive30i gets a 3.0-liter 255-horsepower inline-6, while the sDrive35i, which we drove, is powered by the company's matchless twin-turbo 3.0-liter 300-hp inline-6.
Pricey Options
Our 2009 BMW Z4 test car also featured BMW's latest 80GB hard-drive navigation/audio system with the "new" iDrive first seen on the 2009 750i. We also enjoyed the comprehensive Sport package that goes beyond a mere tire upgrade with adjustable/adaptive suspension plus bespoke electronic throttle and steering maps.
The optional seven-speed automated manual M double-clutch transmission with Drivelogic borrowed (slightly modified) from the BMW M3 will be available only on the sDrive35i and was also on our test car along with 10-spoke 19-inch wheels and Ivory White leather. Option prices have yet to be announced, but we estimate our car's total price probably topped $60,000.
Is It Worth It?
While that amount of money would've seemed ridiculous for a 2008 Z4, it somehow seems less objectionable for this recently matriculated Z4 sDrive35i. The engine alone is worth the extra cash, as it grabs your attention the first time you probe its upper ranges. The exhaust note gets angrier and the 7,000-rpm redline arrives suddenly and almost effortlessly, at which point you discover how quickly and seamlessly the seven-speed automated manual shifts gears.
The double-clutcher is well tuned to behave in a variety of situations. There's enough parking-lot creep with the brakes regulating progress, enough gentle clutch engagement for part-throttle getaways, and flinch-quick shifts for hasty ones.
In fact, when you're really putting the spurs to it, there's an audible exhaust burp accompanying each constant-momentum upshift. Shifts can be automatic, or manually selected with the steering wheel paddles or shift lever.
With a similar wheelbase (0.1 inch longer) and nearly unchanged strut suspension setup compared to the previous model, the Z4's handling remains relatively neutral unless you give it big stabs of throttle.
The Other Important Numbers
With a 3,494-pound curb weight, it's no lightweight, but BMW claims the sDrive35i with the seven-speed auto-shifter will sprint from zero to 60 mph in 5 seconds flat (5.1 seconds with the manual transmission). We're confident those figures are a little conservative, but they still line up favorably (exactly, in fact) with the last Z4 M Roadster we tested as well as running just a tenth behind the V8-powered Mercedes-Benz SLK55 AMG.
More than just quick off the line, the 2009 BMW Z4 sDrive35i is sneaky fast, too. With 300 pound-feet of torque at a mere 1,400 rpm and 300 peak hp at 5,800 rpm, the transmission rips up and down the gears so fast that you quickly find yourself on the illegal side of the speedometer without exertion or notice.
Though we weren't able to drive one, the company says the sDrive30i will require between 5.6 and 6.0 seconds to reach 60 mph, depending on transmission choice.
A Quality Cabin
The interior is also a huge leap forward. As with the exterior, the soft and hard shapes and exquisite surfaces coalesce to provide a truly premium environment. Our Ivory White leather-equipped example with glossy black dash was a particularly dramatic combination.
There's also a new bulkhead pass-through available to allow two sets of skis to be carried with a driver and passenger. With the top up, there are 10.9 cubic feet (DIN) of cargo volume and 6.4 cubes when the top is lowered.
The addition of an electronic emergency brake freed up room in the cabin for a genuine armrest compartment and even a small parcel shelf behind the seats.
There are also a host of infotainment options and packages including a hard drive audio server/navigation system with flash-memory-stick input for both audio and route guidance. At your home computer, first plot your route with POIs, fuel stops, etc., save it to a memory stick and then transfer it to the car. Very cool.
Expectations
At this point, saying that we were pleasantly surprised by the all-new 2009 BMW Z4 sDrive35i during our drive on Spain's Costa Blanca would be like saying we were shocked our luggage got lost on the return trip through Madrid.
BMW never fails to raise its own self-set bar, and Iberia Air never fails to lower its. If we had to write a national motto for Spain, it would be, "España! It's our first day on the job, so give us a break." If we had to write one for the BMW Z4 sDrive35i, it would be, "Z4 sDrive35i! Never mind the alphabet soup and cute reputation. This roadster is for real."
By Chris Walton, Chief Road Test Editor
Date posted: 03-19-2009
Cute weekend cars with sporting intentions and overwrought designs. That's been the reputation of BMW's small, slightly pricey Z3 and Z4 roadsters until now.
Unless you were a subscriber to BMW for Life magazine, there was no compelling reason to choose the Z roadster over one of its equally competent competitors.
For 2009, the BMW Z4 finally becomes a serious roadster. More than just a face-lift, some new options and a little bump in power, this Z4 gets a whole new identity. And cute is no longer part of it.
Retro Futurist
Unveiled at this year's Detroit show, the 2009 BMW Z4 sDrive35i looks stunning "in the metal." Slightly longer (5.8 inches), wider (0.4 inch) and lower (0.3 inch), the Z4 now looks a class up from traditional playmates like the Audi TT, Mazda Miata and Mercedes-Benz SLK.
It comes across as a more expensive car than it is. Think modern BMW 507 from the '50s, but add BMW's latest 3.0-liter sixes, an optional seven-speed double-clutch automated manual transmission and a healthy dose of up-to-the minute tech.
And don't forget the new, impossibly compact folding hardtop, an all-aluminum engineering masterpiece that allows this Z4 to take the place of the previous Z4 coupe and roadster.
When and How Much?
On sale May 8, there will be two versions available: A base Z4 sDrive30i ($46,575 including destination fee) effectively will take the place of the current lineup's top-shelf Z4 3.0si ($43,525). A second model, the sDrive35i ($52,475), is a new animal altogether that's more comparable to the outgoing Z4 M ($53,225) in terms of price, engine output and handling capability.
Both models will be offered with a standard six-speed manual transmission, but the sDrive30i gets a 3.0-liter 255-horsepower inline-6, while the sDrive35i, which we drove, is powered by the company's matchless twin-turbo 3.0-liter 300-hp inline-6.
Pricey Options
Our 2009 BMW Z4 test car also featured BMW's latest 80GB hard-drive navigation/audio system with the "new" iDrive first seen on the 2009 750i. We also enjoyed the comprehensive Sport package that goes beyond a mere tire upgrade with adjustable/adaptive suspension plus bespoke electronic throttle and steering maps.
The optional seven-speed automated manual M double-clutch transmission with Drivelogic borrowed (slightly modified) from the BMW M3 will be available only on the sDrive35i and was also on our test car along with 10-spoke 19-inch wheels and Ivory White leather. Option prices have yet to be announced, but we estimate our car's total price probably topped $60,000.
Is It Worth It?
While that amount of money would've seemed ridiculous for a 2008 Z4, it somehow seems less objectionable for this recently matriculated Z4 sDrive35i. The engine alone is worth the extra cash, as it grabs your attention the first time you probe its upper ranges. The exhaust note gets angrier and the 7,000-rpm redline arrives suddenly and almost effortlessly, at which point you discover how quickly and seamlessly the seven-speed automated manual shifts gears.
The double-clutcher is well tuned to behave in a variety of situations. There's enough parking-lot creep with the brakes regulating progress, enough gentle clutch engagement for part-throttle getaways, and flinch-quick shifts for hasty ones.
In fact, when you're really putting the spurs to it, there's an audible exhaust burp accompanying each constant-momentum upshift. Shifts can be automatic, or manually selected with the steering wheel paddles or shift lever.
With a similar wheelbase (0.1 inch longer) and nearly unchanged strut suspension setup compared to the previous model, the Z4's handling remains relatively neutral unless you give it big stabs of throttle.
The Other Important Numbers
With a 3,494-pound curb weight, it's no lightweight, but BMW claims the sDrive35i with the seven-speed auto-shifter will sprint from zero to 60 mph in 5 seconds flat (5.1 seconds with the manual transmission). We're confident those figures are a little conservative, but they still line up favorably (exactly, in fact) with the last Z4 M Roadster we tested as well as running just a tenth behind the V8-powered Mercedes-Benz SLK55 AMG.
More than just quick off the line, the 2009 BMW Z4 sDrive35i is sneaky fast, too. With 300 pound-feet of torque at a mere 1,400 rpm and 300 peak hp at 5,800 rpm, the transmission rips up and down the gears so fast that you quickly find yourself on the illegal side of the speedometer without exertion or notice.
Though we weren't able to drive one, the company says the sDrive30i will require between 5.6 and 6.0 seconds to reach 60 mph, depending on transmission choice.
A Quality Cabin
The interior is also a huge leap forward. As with the exterior, the soft and hard shapes and exquisite surfaces coalesce to provide a truly premium environment. Our Ivory White leather-equipped example with glossy black dash was a particularly dramatic combination.
There's also a new bulkhead pass-through available to allow two sets of skis to be carried with a driver and passenger. With the top up, there are 10.9 cubic feet (DIN) of cargo volume and 6.4 cubes when the top is lowered.
The addition of an electronic emergency brake freed up room in the cabin for a genuine armrest compartment and even a small parcel shelf behind the seats.
There are also a host of infotainment options and packages including a hard drive audio server/navigation system with flash-memory-stick input for both audio and route guidance. At your home computer, first plot your route with POIs, fuel stops, etc., save it to a memory stick and then transfer it to the car. Very cool.
Expectations
At this point, saying that we were pleasantly surprised by the all-new 2009 BMW Z4 sDrive35i during our drive on Spain's Costa Blanca would be like saying we were shocked our luggage got lost on the return trip through Madrid.
BMW never fails to raise its own self-set bar, and Iberia Air never fails to lower its. If we had to write a national motto for Spain, it would be, "España! It's our first day on the job, so give us a break." If we had to write one for the BMW Z4 sDrive35i, it would be, "Z4 sDrive35i! Never mind the alphabet soup and cute reputation. This roadster is for real."
#356
Safety Car
i LOVE this car. 50k for a retractable hardtop is great for a BMW. this could potentially steal sales from the likes of cars such as the SL. although, considering this car is essentially a "weekend car" im not sure how well the sales will do in todays economy (US, and esp. Germany) perhaps thats why BMW pushed for the hardtop so the car could be more versatile
Last edited by ThermonMermon; 03-20-2009 at 11:26 PM.
#357
Safety Car
and as a architect, i must say this design is impecable inside and out. my only qualm is that the nav screen, which functions the radio, etc. MUST be popped up when the car is in use. i guess they assumed that since the car was a convertible, it wouldnt hurt if the screen was concealed when the car was parked and passer byers have an open view of the interior.
#358
Senior Moderator
Z4 M Axed...
From WCF...
Sadly, BMW has confirmed that it has canceled the Z4 M.
The automaker said the economic downturn and a lack of customer interest in the model ruled out going forward with an M version of the Z4.
But it seems odd to cite the crisis hitting automotive sales as a reason for killing the model when the company is also going forward with the X5 M and the X6 M and a whole host of new products that are large, expensive and not very economical on fuel costs.
So maybe the second reason cited was a larger factor than they are letting on, the lack of customer demand. Hard to imagine that of all the new upcoming BMW models, including the 5-series GT, that the Z4 would be the one where customer interest in an M version hasn't been piqued enough.
A BMW spokesperson was quoted by iMotor.co.uk as saying,"Given the current economic crisis there is no business case for a full-on M version of the Z4." The spokesperson also admitted that the X5 M and X6 M were given the go-ahead before the collapse in sales which, in many cases, have hit premium brands just as hard as the volume automakers.
The consolation prize will be an M Sport package for the Z4, like the one for the 135i. That would include a few M-badges tucked here and there but mainly on the steering wheel, a more tightly tuned suspension, a body kit and bigger alloy wheels. Couple all that with the BMW's 3.0 liter, twin-turbo with 306 hp and it should pack enough of a punch. What else do you want? Don't you know there's global economic crisis
The automaker said the economic downturn and a lack of customer interest in the model ruled out going forward with an M version of the Z4.
But it seems odd to cite the crisis hitting automotive sales as a reason for killing the model when the company is also going forward with the X5 M and the X6 M and a whole host of new products that are large, expensive and not very economical on fuel costs.
So maybe the second reason cited was a larger factor than they are letting on, the lack of customer demand. Hard to imagine that of all the new upcoming BMW models, including the 5-series GT, that the Z4 would be the one where customer interest in an M version hasn't been piqued enough.
A BMW spokesperson was quoted by iMotor.co.uk as saying,"Given the current economic crisis there is no business case for a full-on M version of the Z4." The spokesperson also admitted that the X5 M and X6 M were given the go-ahead before the collapse in sales which, in many cases, have hit premium brands just as hard as the volume automakers.
The consolation prize will be an M Sport package for the Z4, like the one for the 135i. That would include a few M-badges tucked here and there but mainly on the steering wheel, a more tightly tuned suspension, a body kit and bigger alloy wheels. Couple all that with the BMW's 3.0 liter, twin-turbo with 306 hp and it should pack enough of a punch. What else do you want? Don't you know there's global economic crisis
#359
I drive a Subata.
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As much as I love to see this car, it's a good call at this moment.
I'm sure they will reconsider to build it in the future when the economy comes back alive.
I'm sure they will reconsider to build it in the future when the economy comes back alive.