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Old 04-02-2010, 03:10 PM
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That is a huge improvement, I would drive that.
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It'll be a sad day in Graz when production stops. I used to stop there about once a month and see truckloads of X3s coming out of the factory.
If i'm not mistaken, production stopped in Graz about a year ago when their contract with Magna Steyr expired. The 2009 models were only produced for about 6 months, and then inventory dried up. The cars were supposed to continue production in SC along side the X5 and X6.
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That is a huge improvement, I would drive that.
My wife was asking me this weekend what she's going to get next, we have a little over a year left on our RDX. I told her we have a few other options, perhaps the next X3, a Q5, etc...We'll see what happens when the 2011 X3 is out, and hopefully there's a half decent lease program on it. We had a 2006 X3 and she was very happy with it..
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Shoof: No comparison...Q5 all the way.
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looks better, but the Q5 and SRX all over it.
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Sure looks a hell of a lot better than the current X3. Now please, please offer it with a 6MT, and I'll be in line at the bimmer dealer.
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looks better, but the Q5 and SRX all over it.
In looks, yes. But if the X3 gets the 335's motor and a six speed manual...
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2012 First drive

http://www.insideline.com/bmw/x3/201...rst-drive.html

For those that can't be bothered to read the article: drivetrains handed down from the other BMWs (28i and 35i w/ 8 AT, 35d later), slightly bigger but 45lbs lighter, a few less options than higher end models.

One bit of interesting info is that the 35d drivetrain makes up 30% of X5 sales but diesels don't sell well in the sedans.
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2012 First drive

http://www.insideline.com/bmw/x3/201...rst-drive.html

For those that can't be bothered to read the article: drivetrains handed down from the other BMWs (28i and 35i w/ 8 AT, 35d later), slightly bigger but 45lbs lighter, a few less options than higher end models.

One bit of interesting info is that the 35d drivetrain makes up 30% of X5 sales but diesels don't sell well in the sedans.
After the review I read of the 335d, I would buy one in a heart beat. The bottom line of that review (R&T I think) was that for 90% of driving, the 335d was a better choice than a M3.

Of course, that other 10% is when the M3 smokes just about everything under $70k.

Anyway, my point is the x35d engine is damn good.
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for the Magna Styr plant in Graz
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Turbo for the win.
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Nice. I'm guessing they added the black plastic cladding just so that they can take it off during the mid-cycle refresh, like for the previous X3.
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The New BMW X3 (North America)

15.07.2010

Woodcliff Lake, NJ – July 14, 2010 … In 2004 BMW introduced a new concept to the market: the small, premium Sports Activity Vehicle with all-road capability and unparalleled driving dynamics. This first generation BMW X3 became a best seller in the BMW line…both in the United States and in Europe. Through its lifecycle, over 600,000 original X3s have been sold worldwide with 150,000 sold in the USA. Subsequently, several competitors have entered the now hotly-contested segment.

The new second generation BMW X3 builds on the success of the original by developing its core competencies while adding new technology to establish new benchmarks for agility, efficiency and comfort. The new BMW X3 will be produced in an expansion of the BMW Spartanburg, South Carolina plant and is expected to arrive in US BMW Centers by the end of 2010.

Design: Exterior

The design of the new BMW X3 conveys elegance, agility and ruggedness. Up front, the forward-slanting BMW kidney grille and large headlight assembly combine with a powerful-looking front apron and hood boasting six contour lines sweeping down to meet at the kidney grill, giving the X3 a bold presence. The twin round headlights combined with the round fog lamps form the triangular light pattern that is characteristic of BMW SAV design. The upper edge of the headlight assembly sports an accentuating chrome trim, creating the focused design typical of BMW vehicles. BMW’s signature “Corona Rings” are again illuminated to function as the daytime running lights. When equipped with the optional Xenon headlights, the Corona Rings and daytime running lights are illuminated by bright white LEDs.

The profile of the new BMW X3 is also characterized by a unique interpretation of typical BMW X design features. Powerfully flared wheel arches and the short front and rear overhangs emphasize the robust character of a BMW Sports Activity Vehicle. The dynamic appearance of the silhouette is accentuated by three characteristic lines. The new BMW X3’s brand-typical upper contour line at door handle level rises steeply at first within the front wheel arch area, then flows gently to the rear. Two additional subtle lines follow this contour line above the wheel arches.

The rear is characterized by horizontal lines, underlining the new BMW X3’s robust character. Precise lines and expressively modeled surfaces create attractive light and shadow effects. The taillights, which are located far to the outside, have a distinctive T-shape that is characteristic of the BMW X3. LED light bars create a distinctive BMW night-time design signature.

Dimensionally, compared to its predecessor the new X3 is a half-inch (12mm) taller, 3.36-inches (83mm) longer, 1.1-inches (28mm) wider, and features a half-inch (12mm) more ground clearance. It rides on a wheelbase which is 0.6-inches (15mm) longer, at 110.6 inches (2810mm).

Interior: First-class ambience, intelligent functionality.

A generous and versatile spatial concept, high-grade materials and a characteristic three-dimensional surface design provide the interior of the new BMW X3 with a modern, premium ambience and intelligent functionality. The horizontal lines of the instrument panel accentuate the width of the interior. The driver orientated cockpit, a hallmark of BMW design, is emphasized by the asymmetrically designed center console. The Central Display of the optional navigation system with fourth generation BMW iDrive is harmoniously integrated into the instrument panel. The system features in 8.8-inch high-resolution trans-reflective screen that is the largest on-board monitor in its vehicle segment. Throughout the vehicle, new BMW X3 has a large number of storage compartments, trays and cup holders.

The raised seating position facilitates egress and ingress, while providing outstanding outward visibility. The three rear seats offer outstanding comfort for travelling long distances and significantly more leg and elbow room than its predecessor. With EU-measured cargo volume between 19 and 56.6 cu.ft. (550 and 1,600 liters), the luggage compartment of the new BMW X3 is the largest in its segment. At the same time, the versatility with which available space can be adapted to suit each personal requirement is also unrivalled. The rear seat backrests can be split at a ratio 60 : 40 and can be folded down either individually or together. The optional rear seats with ski pass-through has three segments of 40 : 20 : 40 can be folded down individually or in combination making it possible to adapt the luggage compartment in varying degrees according to need.

The X3 xDrive28i: 6-cylinder power for the entry model.

For the US, the entry-level X3 xDrive28i will feature BMW’s award-winning magnesium/aluminum 3.0-liter inline-6. In 2006 and 2007, the “N52” was awarded the distinction of being one of Wards 10 Best Engines of the Year. Its magnesium/aluminum construction, Valvetronic variable valve lift and Double-VANOS are features found only on BMW engines, and it is currently the lightest six cylinder engine for its size class in the world. The N52 in the X3 is rated at 240 horsepower at 6,600 rpm and 230 lb-ft of torque between 2,600 and 3,000 rpm.

That’s good enough to accelerate from 0 -60 mph in 6.7 seconds (preliminary). That’s nearly a half-second quicker than the previous X3 xDrive30i equipped with an automatic transmission.

The X3 xDrive35i: Class leading performance and efficiency.

The new top model BMW X3 xDrive35i features BMW’s newest turbocharged 3.0-liter inline-6 “N55” engine combining direct fuel injection, twin-scroll turbo technology and Valvetronic. The N55 engine develops a maximum output of 300 hp at 5,800 rpm, with peak torque of 300 lb-ft available all the way from 1,200–5,000 rpm. Redline is 7,000 rpm.

This engine enables the X3 xDrive35i to sprint from 0 to 60mph in just 5.5 seconds (preliminary). Top speed is electronically limited to 150mph when fitted with the optional Sport Package.

Both the BMW X3 xDrive28i and the X3 xDrive35i will offer not only the most dynamic driving characteristics in their categories, but also by far the most favorable fuel consumption and emission levels within their class. EPA fuel efficiency estimates will be provided closer to the on-sale date in the United States.

Playing a supporting role: The innovative new 8-speed automatic transmission.

Like many new BMW models, the new X3 features an 8-speed automatic transmission which brings smooth shifting, sportiness and efficiency to new levels of perfection. Compared to the exemplary 6-speed automatic offered previously, the 8-speed has “taller” cruising gears that make a significant contribution to reduced fuel consumption and emissions, as well as quietness. Its wider spread of ratios from lowest to highest gear enhances acceleration and response across the range of driving speeds. The revolutionary design even allows for direct shifts from 8th gear to 2nd gear for maximum acceleration.

This new automatic’s attributes have been achieved via an innovative concept that provides the two additional ratios (7 and 8) with no increase in bulk or weight. In a ground-breaking arrangement, four planetary gearsets and five clutch packs are controlled in a way that no more than two of the five clutch packs are freewheeling at any given time. The modest increase in the number of mechanical elements allows the new transmission to achieve unusually high efficiency. The so-called “gearing efficiency” is higher than 98% in all eight gears. . In 6th, gearing efficiency is at its optimum because that is a direct drive. Combine this with reduced friction and the ability to keep the torque converter “locked up” more of the total driving time, and the transmission becomes very much a part of the overall BMW EfficientDynamics concept.

Two additional gears mean threefold progress: quicker shifts, greater smoothness, enhanced efficiency.

The wider spread of ratios allows the engine to run at lower speeds, often in the “tallest” gear, 8th. Yet even with this wider spread, the steps between adjacent gears are reduced; in turn this means a stronger, smoother flow of power during acceleration.

Faster shifts are a further benefit because only one clutch pack is disengaged to shift up or down by one or two gears. On the other hand, downshifting more than two gears is accomplished as a direct shift. For example, a downshift from 8th to 2nd gear is made with only one clutch pack disengagement, and thus occurs without stepping down through the intermediate gears. So, at one instant the driver can be enjoying the quiet, fuel-efficient low rpm of 8th gear, and in the next instant getting maximum acceleration.

New suspension, xDrive intelligent all-wheel drive, and made-to-measure dynamics.

The new BMW X3 features standard xDrive intelligent all-wheel drive. Now in its third generation, BMW xDrive has been revised to incorporate even more flexibility, quicker response and improved handling characteristics. The new system marks a significant evolution in xDrive capabilities, which has always depended upon a networking of Dynamic Stability Control and the xDrive system. With the overall Integrated Chassis Management system, all three control circuits work in parallel. This refined interaction achieves even quicker reactions to changing driving conditions and enhances xDrive’s already outstanding handling dynamics.

BMW xDrive is unique in design and construction. In normal conditions, driving torque is always transmitted to the rear wheels, and most of the time to all four wheels. Normal torque split is 40% front/60% rear. The portion of torque transmitted to the front wheels is controlled by a multi-disc clutch that can be fully open (100% to the rear), fully engaged or at any level of partial engagement in between. The torque split between rear and front wheels is thus steplessly variable. Engagement pressure on the multi-disc clutch is directed by an electronic control system in response to actual road and driving conditions. This gives xDrive a dynamic ability that is unparalleled by other all-wheel drive systems.

The new BMW X3 also features completely redeveloped suspension technology. The combination of a double-joint spring-strut suspension at the front and a multi-link rear suspension provides the foundation for agility and driving comfort. The standard Servotronic speed-sensitive power steering contributes to the X3’s precise handling.

The X3’s optional Electronic Damping Control adjusts the shock absorbers to any level of firmness, quickly adapting to road conditions and the driver’s demands.. Suspension control is always optimum for current road conditions, vehicle speed, and load. The shocks default to the softest appropriate setting for the vehicle’s speed, and when the vehicle encounters an irregular road surface, they adjust instantaneously to control ride motions, preserve ride comfort, and maintain adhesion to the road. The system is so fast that even at highway speeds the system can sense a pothole at a front wheel and adjust rear-wheel damping before it reaches the same pothole. The Electronic Damping Control option includes a new Performance Control feature on the X3. Performance Control helps the X3 maintain a neutral handling character by adjusting the xDrive torque split to 20% front/80% rear in steady state cornering. Performance Control can also apply the inside rear brake while also applying a little more power to the outside wheel (to compensate for the additional drag of the brake) in order to help rotate the vehicle.

Adjacent to the E-Shift lever on the X3’s center console is the optional Driving Dynamics Control selector (included with EDC). DDC provides three settings that tailor vehicle characteristics to different drivers, one driver’s different moods, driving conditions – or all of the above. The settings are Normal, Sport and Sport Plus; the following vehicle-dynamics parameters are affected:

* Shock-absorber firmness (within the Electronic Damping Control system)
* Engine throttle response
* Transmission shift characteristics
* Power-steering assist level
* Dynamic Stability Control mode

The X3’s driving dynamics can be widely controlled by these different calibrations of so many elements. In addition, when equipped with the Navigation system, the driver may use iDrive to custom-tailor the Sport setting.

Just ahead of the Driving Dynamics Control switch is the Dynamic Stability Control switch for BMW’s all-encompassing stability- and traction-control system. A brief push on this button switches the system to Dynamic Traction Control, in which DSC’s intervention threshold is raised; one effect of this setting is improved traction in deep snow. A long push on the same button de-activates DSC altogether, though the anti-lock braking and anti-rollover functions always remain active.

An extensive range of standard and optional BMW ConnectedDrive functions.

BMW ConnectedDrive comprises all offers and technologies which connect our vehicles, drivers and passengers, and the outside world. ConnectedDrive is comprised of three main pillars: Convenience, Infotainment, and Safety. Each of these three pillars operates and interacts seamlessly with iDrive and other onboard controls to create a unique and unmatched experience for both the driver and passengers. These features will be outlined in detail at a later date.

Production at the BMW Spartanburg plant.

The new BMW X3 is produced at the BMW Spartanburg, South Carolina plant.. With the production of the BMW X5 and BMW X6 models, the location, has become the competence center for BMW X models within the BMW Group’s worldwide production network. Thanks to a comprehensive $750 million expansion, BMW Plant Spartanburg is ready to produce the new X3 for distribution around the world.

Agility and comfort, sportiness and efficiency, ruggedness and elegance, flexibility and premium ambience – the new BMW X3 fulfils the varying demands made on a modern Sports Activity Vehicle. With its multifaceted qualities it sets new standards in the segment established by its predecessor. The all-new X3 is due to arrive in US showrooms by the end of 2010







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What's wrong with the Spartanburg plant? I saw a documentary on it, it seems like a cool place.
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What's wrong with the Spartanburg plant? I saw a documentary on it, it seems like a cool place.
What made the original X3 one of BMW's most reliable vehicles was that it was built in a plant in Austria. We have one in the family and it is solid! My gf's E46 is

My brother-in-law, who works as a service advisor at a BMW dealership, also says it (was) BMW's most reliable car.

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Old 07-14-2010, 08:13 PM
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Nice looking car, but that dash is ugly.
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:15 PM
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it is a good improvement comparing to the current model
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Big improvement. Interior is meh, however.
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Very nice, I like it. I even like the interior...especially compared to the current one.

And is that real cupholders I see in a bimmer :wow:
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Looks great. Not quite as nice as an Q5 but a huge improvement over the current model.
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To me, the main problem with BMW interiors are the overly conservative guages and HVAC controls. They just look a little too much 1999.
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it turned out a lot better than I thought it would. not a fan of the puffy-cheek look in the front, though.
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BMW has announced the M-sport Package for the all new 2011 X3. Details:
  • Carbon Black metallic paint finish (exclusive M-sport color)
  • 19 inch M light-weight alloy wheels
  • Sports suspension tuning with stiffer dampers
  • M multifunction leather steering wheel and variable sports steering
  • M gear selection level with short throws
  • Gearshift paddles (with BMW xDrive35i w/ standard 8 speed auto)
  • Sports seats
  • Pearlpoint cloth-leather upholsterly
  • BMW Individual anthracite roof liner
  • M Sport package side skirts, wheel arches and front and rear apron skirts are painted in body color
  • Window surrounds and roof rails are in BMW Individual high-gloss Shadow Line.
  • Expected to be available from 2nd Quarter of 2011 (subject to change).

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Dynamic and compelling, the M Sports package drives the sporty nature of the BMW X3 to even greater heights. The rich Carbon Black metallic paint finish and powerful 19-inch M light-weight alloy wheel rims set the tone, while the sports suspension tuning delivers the experience.

More Driving tools: the M multifunction leather steering wheel and variable sports steering. The M gear selection lever boasts particularly short throws. In the BMW xDrive35i with standard eight-speed automatic transmission Steptronic, the M leather steering wheel also features gearshift paddles. The sporty suspension settings give you stiffer dampers and deliver precise feedback.

Ergonomically shaped sports seats provide side support against strong lateral forces, such as when cornering at speed. The Pearlpoint cloth-leather upholstery offers a beautifully tactile surface; matching the BMW Individual roof liner, it comes in sleek Anthracite.

With the M Sports package, the side skirts, wheel arches and front and rear aprons are in body colour – for example, the Carbon Black metallic paint finish that is exclusive to the M Sports package. Window surrounds and roof rails are in the high-gloss BMW Individual Shadow Line.

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And is that real cupholders I see in a bimmer :wow:

Yep, what an eyesore.
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Yep, what an eyesore.
That's so much better than what they have now. I hate the cupholders in my 335i. It almost tipped a drink cuz I hit the gas too hard.
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Quite nice, all around, inside and out.

Well done, BMW.
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That's so much better than what they have now. I hate the cupholders in my 335i. It almost tipped a drink cuz I hit the gas too hard.

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With the M Sports package, the side skirts, wheel arches and front and rear aprons are in body colour
What did I say, they put this black cladding on just so they could charge people to take it off.
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Big improvement, I quite like it.
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What did I say, they put this black cladding on just so they could charge people to take it off.
werd. and salesmen get so excited to tell you that a premium package offers body painted panels like you werent entitled to such in the first place

although, i think the two tone contrasting front bumper in the base model actually looks better. wheel arches and rear bumper are a different story.
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looks great. the headlight shape is pretty bland though compared to the newer BMW's.
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Originally Posted by ThermonMermon View Post
werd. and salesmen get so excited to tell you that a premium package offers body painted panels like you werent entitled to such in the first place

although, i think the two tone contrasting front bumper in the base model actually looks better. wheel arches and rear bumper are a different story.
I agree it doesn't look that bad, but you just know they're going to make all these pieces body-colored eventually as the car ages. I honestly think they come up with the fully body-colored stying first, and then they think "how can we dumb it down for the first couple of years so that we can charge more money for making it look like it was supposed to look in the first place".
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^ honda used to do the same thing with the CR-V until this current gen
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i like both exterior and interior
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i like both exterior and interior
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