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Old 05-10-2007, 02:10 PM
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this could be a quick fix for ford if BMW is willing to pay big $$$$. But i could see how in the long term, losing all the options of platforms, drive trains, and safety could make their situation even worse in the future...
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If BMW acquired Volvo and improved the driving experience without allowing BMWs design team to fuck with the new Volvo look, there is potentially a real winner here in the mix.
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
If BMW acquired Volvo and improved the driving experience without allowing BMWs design team to fuck with the new Volvo look, there is potentially a real winner here in the mix.
Agreed.
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
If BMW acquired Volvo and improved the driving experience without allowing BMWs design team to fuck with the new Volvo look, there is potentially a real winner here in the mix.
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Volvo has had a LOT going for them lately--excellent, unique styling and is finally starting to stand out again on the safety front. The XC90 was a huge success, and it seems as though the other models are doing pretty decently (save for the S80).

BMW could inject a better drive to these otherwise staid vehicles. Heck, they might even be able to bring back "R" models.

However, Alfa's probably looks more appealing for platform sharing because of their exhilirating performance. Alfa's seem to be irresistable in Europe, if a little too raucous; seems like a great fit for Mini.

However, Volvo, IMO, would be the safer bet. Volvo's got the look down and the popularity--BMW: give it the drive.


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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
If BMW acquired Volvo and improved the driving experience without allowing BMWs design team to fuck with the new Volvo look, there is potentially a real winner here in the mix.
they didnt F with the exterior of the Mini, just added things on the interior like an iDrive, fiber optics, ecu, etc.
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
If BMW acquired Volvo and improved the driving experience without allowing BMWs design team to fuck with the new Volvo look, there is potentially a real winner here in the mix.
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Meh - bigger is not necessarily better. BMW is profitable largely because of their singular focus on premium, sporty designs.

Buying Volvo would simply dilute their capital base. Have you driven a Volvo lately? Not so sporty.
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci
BMW is profitable largely because of their singular focus on premium, sporty designs.
They're doing just fine with Mini Cooper
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Originally Posted by nbennettksu
They're doing just fine with Mini Cooper
Small niche - not so profitable.
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci
Small niche - not so profitable.

Hence the need to mate Volvo and Mini together, to "ensure" profitability if they shared platforms.
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci
Meh - bigger is not necessarily better. BMW is profitable largely because of their singular focus on premium, sporty designs.

Buying Volvo would simply dilute their capital base. Have you driven a Volvo lately? Not so sporty.
True. Volvo will win...but will BMW?
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This will be great for Volvo, for BMW, I'm unsure.
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci
Small niche - not so profitable.
it has been a niche market in the past, but sales are up on those go-karts!
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Originally Posted by nbennettksu
it has been a niche market in the past, but sales are up on those go-karts!
Meh - for the same dough, I'd buy a mazdaspeed3 over a mini any day of the week.
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Post BMW: Corporate document reveals future plans...

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BMW CEO Norbert Reithofer has revealed the automaker's strategy for the next several years in a company document released today. The document included BMW's plan to sell 1.8 million vehicles by 2012, a target that will be aided by the addition of several new models over the next five years — including a BMW X1 crossover, BMW Gran Turismo that will be based on the CS show car, a Mini SUV and a new Rolls-Royce coupe.

In addition to a new Rolls-Royce coupe, the automaker will also introduce a vehicle slotted below the Phantom.

BMW is also working on a new concept car called the Progressive Activity Sedan. The concept will focus on efficient packaging and high levels of functionality. BMW will also continue to develop green technologies for use throughout the automakers lineup.

The document also stated that BMW will better monitor currency fluctuation and will increase production in areas that have a favorable exchange rate. The document outlined increasing production at BMW's Spartanburg, South Carolina plant to 240,000 vehicles annually by 2012 — a 100,000 unit increase over current capacity — as well as increasing its Mini plant in Oxford to to 260,000 units annually. BMW is also planning to increase Chinese production from from 30,000 units to 44,000.

Reithofer did not confirm that BMW would add a fourth brand but said that it was still under consideration.
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Related thread from my e-balcony partner here: https://acurazine.com/forums/automotive-news-6/bmw-confirms-mini-sport-activity-vehicle-375028/
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Fourth BMW brand

The latest news out of Germany about BMW considering adding a fourth brand to compliment its BMW, MINI, and Rolls-Royce line-up raises an interesting question. How do you add to one of the most successful auto companies in the world and get it right? It's not as simple as it sounds.

BMW has grown and become successful because its three brands not only know their customer base, they are also disciplined about staying with their business plan. Take Mini. After it's initial popularity, there was the question a few years ago about how to grow MINI. Should they dramatically enlarge or alter the look of the MINI? Wisely, they have been careful to expand the MINI line-up without changing the look so people scratch their head and say, "What the heck are they doing?"

So now, BMW is considering whether to add a fourth brand. Should it create one? Should it buy one? And what segment of buyers should it target?

My gut says BMW should create a fourth brand since that would allow the company to focus the brand on the exact audience it wants to hit, while not having to deal with the baggage or issues that come with buying an existing brand. This would also let BMW to start it's fourth line small, and carefully build it.
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Damn, BMW's going to come out with an X1 and then a "mini" SUV? Lord, they've gone SUV crazy. Way, way to many, IMO. That would make an SUV lineup of the X6,X5,X3,X1,and "mini" SUV. The should focus on sports cars, IMO. I don't have a problem with BMW having SUVs, but this overkill, no matter what company you are.
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X = on stilts

They're basically just catering to US tastes -- if the 1-series hatch were more accepted, I'm not sure they'd see a market for an X1. Unfortunately, Americans like their cars on stilts, so the Bavarians are just giving us more of what we want. I'm just surprised they don't have a 7-series-on-stilts planned to compete in the market for oversized SUVs.
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BMW to increase US car production

BMW Outsources to the US

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The luxury carmaker BMW has announced it will invest $750m (£373m) as part of plans to increase production in the US.

The investment at the Spartanburg plant, South Carolina, is aimed at increasing capacity from 160,000 to 240,000 units by 2012.

The move is set to create 500 new jobs and comes after the firm recently said it would cut 7.5% of its German workforce in 2008.

The firm is facing both rising costs in Europe as well as slowing US demand.

Since last September, the dollar has tumbled against the euro, hurting firms that pay their costs in euros but receive payment in dollars.

The euro touched an all-time high of $1.546 last week after punching through the $1.50 level at the end of February.

BMW is not the only European firm affected by the swings in exchange rates.

In December last year, the head of the European aerospace and defence company EADS, Louis Gallois, gave a strong indication that if the situation persisted, some of the manufacturing of the Airbus passenger jet would have to be moved outside Europe.

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"The boost in production capacity will positively impact the logistics, suppliers, and distribution networks that support the manufacturing process," said Josef Kerscher, president of BMW Manufacturing.

The firm said the plant would produce the BMW X3, X5 and X6 models for international markets.

Analysts say that by building more vehicles in its South Carolina plants, Munich-based BMW can pay less wages in euros and will also save money by sourcing locally for parts used by its US factories.

This shift in production has resulted in planned cuts of 8,100 positions in Germany.

"This is completely driven by the plunge in the dollar," said Oliver Wyman, publisher of the Harbour Report on automotive manufacturing activity.

"Conceivably, as the volume increases and the manufacturing system at the Spartanburg, South Carolina, plant improves, costs may come down enough to cut prices of their cars."
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well we hope more production jobs need to come to this country
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I guess this means the Graz, Austria plant making the X3 will need to find some work. The really big news would be if they move any sedan production to the US.
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well we hope more production jobs need to come to this country
The plummeting USD does make American labor fairly cheap. to BMW.
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Scary... I guess the US economy is so bad, it's alot cheaper to make 'em here... We send jobs to China, and German sends jobs here.. ouch.
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Scary... I guess the US economy is so bad, it's alot cheaper to make 'em here... We send jobs to China, and German sends jobs here.. ouch.
to add, India outsources to China too
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Now BMW is backing off from the lease market

BMW switching focus to push financed purchases rather than leases

The world’s largest maker of luxury cars, BMW, is taking steps to reduce its industry-topping 60 percent of U.S. vehicle leases versus purchases. The automaker is evidently taking cues from the huge losses domestic automakers have been taking as a result of off-lease vehicles being valued at less than expected, although this was due mainly to them being gas-guzzling trucks and SUVs.

At the start of May, BMW raised lease price by an average of three percent and more recently introduced 0.9 percent financing on new car loans for as long as five years.

“We are offering a broader variety of purchasing options,”‘ BMW U.S.A. spokesperson Jan Ehlen said in a Bloomberg report on Wednesday, adding the automaker is trying to achieve a greater balance between financing and leasing.

BMW cited costs of $373 million in the first quarter as a direct result of the lower values of vehicles at the end of their leases.
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Ouch. I remember reading that over 70% of all some BMW models are leased.
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my parents raised me to hate leases so im happy about this

plus you wont see some hood rich people driving a 5 series anymore
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Good thing. People who lease tend to abuse the vehicles a bit (i.e., not proper break in) and leave the headaches to others.
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Oh wow, i had thought the high lease rates were just temporary.

This sucks, i wanted to lease my next BMW.
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Luxury car makers caught up in crisis, BMW issues profit warning - Yahoo! News

Luxury car makers caught up in crisis, BMW issues profit warning
FRANKFURT (AFP) - The German luxury car maker BMW joined rival Daimler on Friday in warning it would miss its 2008 targets, a sign that high-end manufacturers have been caught by the international financial crisis.
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BMW said it could not give a full-year outlook after its first-half pre-tax profit fell by 35 percent in the first six months of the year to 1.24 billion euros (1.93 billion dollars).

Net profit fell by 26 percent to 994 million euros.

Chairman Norbert Reithofer provided no precisions during a telephone news conference early in the day.

Last week, Daimler and its Mercedes brand cut its full-year profit forecast to "more than seven billion euros," from a previous outlook slightly above 7.7 billion euros, owing to slumping auto markets.

The companies are still making money but profits have fallen sharply.

"It is already a bad sign," said Ferdinand Dudenhoeffer, a German auto specialist.

"And 2009 is going to be very tough too," he told AFP.

Other European car makers such as Fiat, Peugeot and Volkswagen have fared better with cheaper cars, but high-end German models depend on the US market where financial conditions have taken a serious turn for the worse.

Dudenhoeffer said the other car makers would also feel the pinch "when things become tougher in Europe, Brazil or China."

He expected more profit warnings in the next four or five months.

For BMW, the US market is its biggest, and the German group has extensive leasing operations there as well which were were slammed by the international financial crisis.

In the first half, BMW booked a provision of 695 million euros to cover financial risks, it said.

"The price level of pre-owned cars in the USA -- and hence the level of revenues that can be generated on vehicles returned at the end of leases -- remained under further pressure," the company explained.

A major programme of job cuts cost the company an additional 107 million euros, it added.

Steep rises in oil and raw material prices and the euro's rise in value against the dollar were other factors behind the weaker results, the statement said.

"A number of key external factors have got worse" in the second quarter, BMW financial director Michael Ganal told a telephone press conference.

"History has rarely seen factors like this occur at the same time," he added.

The group plans to reduce the number of cars sold in the United States by around 40,000 from more than 300,000 last year, 40 percent of which were to be re-routed to Europe and China.

"The remaining cars will not be produced," Ganal said, a decision that concerned some 20,000-25,000 units.

BMWs would also realign its US business and increase prices, Reithofer added.

"We will start the respective modifications for the American market this year and will continue in 2009," he said.
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If BMW is backing away from the lease market, I hope it is ready to brace for even more drastic drop in vehicle sales.
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Meh, if you can't afford to buy it and you're one of those people who lease it for that very reason, too bad for you too. Less wannabe ballers on the road
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Meh, if you can't afford to buy it and you're one of those people who lease it for that very reason, too bad for you too. Less wannabe ballers on the road
Just like the $4-$5 per gallon gas price effect on hulking SUV's and thirsty V8 engines. The ones who can really afford them stay on the road.


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