BMW: 3-Series News
#3521
Senior Moderator
Not news but wanted to share this nifty video of the E30 M3...
#3522
Senior Moderator
Ooo...The 2015 M3 runs 11.66 @ 119.24 mph quarter mile...
#3523
Senior Moderator
Where's that Kimchi so that I can e- s'more him for passing up an M3...
#3524
Team Owner
I still can't believe he gave up an M3 for a BRZ
#3525
Azine Jabroni
#3526
I drive a Subata.
iTrader: (1)
Woah woah woah. Knew you were in here talking donkey about me.
Do you even know what the running cost difference between M3 and BRZ when you DD+Track it!?
Do you even know what the running cost difference between M3 and BRZ when you DD+Track it!?
#3527
Azine Jabroni
#3528
Team Owner
F30 3 series Facelift LCI
LED headlights and new LED tails.
Rumor: 330 (old 328) will be 272 HP (vs. 240 now) and 320 is getting the new Cooper S 192 HP engine.
LED headlights and new LED tails.
Rumor: 330 (old 328) will be 272 HP (vs. 240 now) and 320 is getting the new Cooper S 192 HP engine.
#3530
Team Owner
from what i heard 2 series will stay where it is.
But 1 series and X1 will be FWD and AWD only for NA. so it is probably just a matter of time before BMW decided to change 2 series to FWD.
it will make sense if BMW lower the MSRP for the FWD models but i have a feeling that they are so greedy that they will keep the same MSRP as the old RWD and make more $$.
But 1 series and X1 will be FWD and AWD only for NA. so it is probably just a matter of time before BMW decided to change 2 series to FWD.
it will make sense if BMW lower the MSRP for the FWD models but i have a feeling that they are so greedy that they will keep the same MSRP as the old RWD and make more $$.
Last edited by oonowindoo; 11-12-2014 at 08:01 PM.
#3531
Fahrvergnügen'd
from what i heard 2 series will stay where it is.
But 1 series and X1 will be FWD and AWD only for NA. so it is probably just a matter of time before BMW decided to change 2 series to FWD.
it will make sense if BMW lower the MSRP for the FWD models but i have a feeling that they are so greedy that they will keep the same MSRP as the old RWD and make more $$.
But 1 series and X1 will be FWD and AWD only for NA. so it is probably just a matter of time before BMW decided to change 2 series to FWD.
it will make sense if BMW lower the MSRP for the FWD models but i have a feeling that they are so greedy that they will keep the same MSRP as the old RWD and make more $$.
That said, I think BMW is missing the boat on a more powerful 228i. But the current car is supposed to be pretty good with 240hp.
#3532
Team Owner
But it still sounds like shit.
Last edited by oonowindoo; 11-13-2014 at 01:18 AM.
#3533
Senior Moderator
Wagon spied again...this time hooliganning it in snow...
#3535
Moderator
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#3537
Team Owner
So yah it is confirmed that the new LCI 340 (old 335) will start production this summer.
It will have the new B58 eninge with 322hp.
Meh, i expected more power. I just learned something new today, the particular version of ZF8 in 3/4 series can only handle 330lbs of torque, where 3 Active Hybrid/5/6 series ZF8 can handle much much more.
I guess i will not be getting 335(340).. it does not have enough power for me to get another one....
It will have the new B58 eninge with 322hp.
Meh, i expected more power. I just learned something new today, the particular version of ZF8 in 3/4 series can only handle 330lbs of torque, where 3 Active Hybrid/5/6 series ZF8 can handle much much more.
I guess i will not be getting 335(340).. it does not have enough power for me to get another one....
Last edited by oonowindoo; 01-20-2015 at 04:24 PM.
#3538
Team Owner
Mixed feelings:
Good for BMW!
Bad for the enthusiasts
This just gave BMW a good reason to continue building softer cars and the brand whoring.
Good for BMW!
Bad for the enthusiasts
This just gave BMW a good reason to continue building softer cars and the brand whoring.
BMW 3 Series was best selling premium car in U.S. in 2014
For the fifth straight year, the BMW 3 Series (4 Series included) was the best selling premium car in 2014 in the United States.
Here are the 2014 stats:
142,232 3-Series / 4-Series sold in U.S. in 2014
3-Series / 4-Series made up 42% of U.S. BMW sales
3-Series / 4-Series was America's 16th-best-selling car in 2014
3-Series / 4-Series sales reached highest level since 2007 (when 142,490 were sold)
3-Series hasn't been outsold in premium category since 2009
3 Series sold: 100,920
4 Series sold: 41,312
The runner up was the Lexus RX with 107,490 units sold.
For a more relevant comparison, Mercedes sold 75,065 C-Class last year.
For the fifth straight year, the BMW 3 Series (4 Series included) was the best selling premium car in 2014 in the United States.
Here are the 2014 stats:
142,232 3-Series / 4-Series sold in U.S. in 2014
3-Series / 4-Series made up 42% of U.S. BMW sales
3-Series / 4-Series was America's 16th-best-selling car in 2014
3-Series / 4-Series sales reached highest level since 2007 (when 142,490 were sold)
3-Series hasn't been outsold in premium category since 2009
3 Series sold: 100,920
4 Series sold: 41,312
The runner up was the Lexus RX with 107,490 units sold.
For a more relevant comparison, Mercedes sold 75,065 C-Class last year.
#3539
Moderator
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So the RX actually sold more units but the 3-series gets the award since they combined sales with the 4-series?
#3540
Team Owner
technically yes.
But since there is no more 3 series coupe, they combine 3/4 together
Same for A4 and A5.
But since there is no more 3 series coupe, they combine 3/4 together
Same for A4 and A5.
#3541
Three Wheelin'
BMW should do what Infiniti is doing and drop the electric power steering and go back to mechanical.
I have a friend who has an E93 328i and I love driving that car. She hates taking it in for service so I do it for her. The last time I got a base model 320i. I couldn't wait to get back into the E93. I have read the ones with sport suspension are 10 times better though.
As stated though clearly BMW knows what they're doing based on their sales.
I have a friend who has an E93 328i and I love driving that car. She hates taking it in for service so I do it for her. The last time I got a base model 320i. I couldn't wait to get back into the E93. I have read the ones with sport suspension are 10 times better though.
As stated though clearly BMW knows what they're doing based on their sales.
#3542
Azine Jabroni
BMW should do what Infiniti is doing and drop the electric power steering and go back to mechanical.
I have a friend who has an E93 328i and I love driving that car. She hates taking it in for service so I do it for her. The last time I got a base model 320i. I couldn't wait to get back into the E93. I have read the ones with sport suspension are 10 times better though.
As stated though clearly BMW knows what they're doing based on their sales.
I have a friend who has an E93 328i and I love driving that car. She hates taking it in for service so I do it for her. The last time I got a base model 320i. I couldn't wait to get back into the E93. I have read the ones with sport suspension are 10 times better though.
As stated though clearly BMW knows what they're doing based on their sales.
#3543
Three Wheelin'
I am really looking forward to seeing the numbers on the 340i. We will see what happens with the suspension as well. Hopefully some of the reviews that picked the IS350 over the 335i will be a wake up call.
#3544
Senior Moderator
Next generation information...
From here: Report says next BMW M3 will have 500 HP thanks to electric turbo and water injection
From here: Report says next BMW M3 will have 500 HP thanks to electric turbo and water injection
A new report from Automobile Magazine sheds some light about what to expect from the next generation BMW M3.
The next generation 3-Series (codenamed G20) is expected to come out sometime in 2018 and will obviously spawn a new M3 (and M4 Coupe) likely before the end of the decade. It is believed the high-powered duo will continue with an inline-six engine just like the current cars but output will be boosted to as much as 500 HP (368 kW), representing a significant 69 HP (51 kW) increase. This will be possible by adopting a pair of electric turbochargers as well as a water injection system as previewed in the 2015 M4 Coupe MotoGP safety car.
As for the regular 3-Series, it will allegedly provide a softer ride but at the same time a sportier chassis featuring adjustable suspension dampers and switchable anti-roll bars. Moreover, expect an active steering system and torque vectoring working together with the ABS and stability control systems. The new 3-Series should boast a lower center of gravity and is believed to get wider tracks and a stretched wheelbase.
Other goodies planned for BMW's compact sedan include beefier brakes, adaptive suspension, revised AWD with faster torque distribution, reduced-friction wheel bearings and even aluminum & carbon fiber compound wheels. The 2.0- and 3.0-liter turbocharged gasoline engines will get more power and there should be at least two plug-in hybrid models. One of them will mix a three-cylinder 1.5-liter with a 60 kW electric motor while the other will get a larger four-cylinder 2.0-liter and a 90 kW electric motor. The former should offer an electric range of 30 miles (48 km) whereas the stronger model should do 50 miles (80 km) miles of zero-emission driving.
Riding on the CLAR (cluster architecture), the new BMW 3-Series is expected to provide a sportier design while on the inside expect to find pop-up speakers, voice-activated iDrive and a head-up display.
Following the sedan's launch, BMW will launch the 3-Series Touring (wagon) and 4-Series Coupe versions as well as a long wheelbase 3-Series Sedan for United States and China. Lastly, the report mentions BMW could decide to combine the 3-Series Gran Turismo and the 4-Series Gran Coupe models into a single car while the 4-Series Convertible is rumored to make the switch to a fabric roof.
The next generation 3-Series (codenamed G20) is expected to come out sometime in 2018 and will obviously spawn a new M3 (and M4 Coupe) likely before the end of the decade. It is believed the high-powered duo will continue with an inline-six engine just like the current cars but output will be boosted to as much as 500 HP (368 kW), representing a significant 69 HP (51 kW) increase. This will be possible by adopting a pair of electric turbochargers as well as a water injection system as previewed in the 2015 M4 Coupe MotoGP safety car.
As for the regular 3-Series, it will allegedly provide a softer ride but at the same time a sportier chassis featuring adjustable suspension dampers and switchable anti-roll bars. Moreover, expect an active steering system and torque vectoring working together with the ABS and stability control systems. The new 3-Series should boast a lower center of gravity and is believed to get wider tracks and a stretched wheelbase.
Other goodies planned for BMW's compact sedan include beefier brakes, adaptive suspension, revised AWD with faster torque distribution, reduced-friction wheel bearings and even aluminum & carbon fiber compound wheels. The 2.0- and 3.0-liter turbocharged gasoline engines will get more power and there should be at least two plug-in hybrid models. One of them will mix a three-cylinder 1.5-liter with a 60 kW electric motor while the other will get a larger four-cylinder 2.0-liter and a 90 kW electric motor. The former should offer an electric range of 30 miles (48 km) whereas the stronger model should do 50 miles (80 km) miles of zero-emission driving.
Riding on the CLAR (cluster architecture), the new BMW 3-Series is expected to provide a sportier design while on the inside expect to find pop-up speakers, voice-activated iDrive and a head-up display.
Following the sedan's launch, BMW will launch the 3-Series Touring (wagon) and 4-Series Coupe versions as well as a long wheelbase 3-Series Sedan for United States and China. Lastly, the report mentions BMW could decide to combine the 3-Series Gran Turismo and the 4-Series Gran Coupe models into a single car while the 4-Series Convertible is rumored to make the switch to a fabric roof.
#3545
Team Owner
then F30 LCI specs are not even out yet and they are already making rumors about G20?
#3546
Ex-OEM King
A new report from Automobile Magazine sheds some light about what to expect from the next generation BMW M3.
The next generation 3-Series (codenamed G20) is expected to come out sometime in 2018 and will obviously spawn a new M3 (and M4 Coupe) likely before the end of the decade. It is believed the high-powered duo will continue with an inline-six engine just like the current cars but output will be boosted to as much as 500 HP (368 kW), representing a significant 69 HP (51 kW) increase. This will be possible by adopting a pair of electric turbochargers as well as a water injection system as previewed in the 2015 M4 Coupe MotoGP safety car.
As for the regular 3-Series, it will allegedly provide a softer ride but at the same time a sportier chassis featuring adjustable suspension dampers and switchable anti-roll bars. Moreover, expect an active steering system and torque vectoring working together with the ABS and stability control systems. The new 3-Series should boast a lower center of gravity and is believed to get wider tracks and a stretched wheelbase.
Other goodies planned for BMW's compact sedan include beefier brakes, adaptive suspension, revised AWD with faster torque distribution, reduced-friction wheel bearings and even aluminum & carbon fiber compound wheels. The 2.0- and 3.0-liter turbocharged gasoline engines will get more power and there should be at least two plug-in hybrid models. One of them will mix a three-cylinder 1.5-liter with a 60 kW electric motor while the other will get a larger four-cylinder 2.0-liter and a 90 kW electric motor. The former should offer an electric range of 30 miles (48 km) whereas the stronger model should do 50 miles (80 km) miles of zero-emission driving.
Riding on the CLAR (cluster architecture), the new BMW 3-Series is expected to provide a sportier design while on the inside expect to find pop-up speakers, voice-activated iDrive and a head-up display.
Following the sedan's launch, BMW will launch the 3-Series Touring (wagon) and 4-Series Coupe versions as well as a long wheelbase 3-Series Sedan for United States and China. Lastly, the report mentions BMW could decide to combine the 3-Series Gran Turismo and the 4-Series Gran Coupe models into a single car while the 4-Series Convertible is rumored to make the switch to a fabric roof.
The next generation 3-Series (codenamed G20) is expected to come out sometime in 2018 and will obviously spawn a new M3 (and M4 Coupe) likely before the end of the decade. It is believed the high-powered duo will continue with an inline-six engine just like the current cars but output will be boosted to as much as 500 HP (368 kW), representing a significant 69 HP (51 kW) increase. This will be possible by adopting a pair of electric turbochargers as well as a water injection system as previewed in the 2015 M4 Coupe MotoGP safety car.
As for the regular 3-Series, it will allegedly provide a softer ride but at the same time a sportier chassis featuring adjustable suspension dampers and switchable anti-roll bars. Moreover, expect an active steering system and torque vectoring working together with the ABS and stability control systems. The new 3-Series should boast a lower center of gravity and is believed to get wider tracks and a stretched wheelbase.
Other goodies planned for BMW's compact sedan include beefier brakes, adaptive suspension, revised AWD with faster torque distribution, reduced-friction wheel bearings and even aluminum & carbon fiber compound wheels. The 2.0- and 3.0-liter turbocharged gasoline engines will get more power and there should be at least two plug-in hybrid models. One of them will mix a three-cylinder 1.5-liter with a 60 kW electric motor while the other will get a larger four-cylinder 2.0-liter and a 90 kW electric motor. The former should offer an electric range of 30 miles (48 km) whereas the stronger model should do 50 miles (80 km) miles of zero-emission driving.
Riding on the CLAR (cluster architecture), the new BMW 3-Series is expected to provide a sportier design while on the inside expect to find pop-up speakers, voice-activated iDrive and a head-up display.
Following the sedan's launch, BMW will launch the 3-Series Touring (wagon) and 4-Series Coupe versions as well as a long wheelbase 3-Series Sedan for United States and China. Lastly, the report mentions BMW could decide to combine the 3-Series Gran Turismo and the 4-Series Gran Coupe models into a single car while the 4-Series Convertible is rumored to make the switch to a fabric roof.
#3547
Moderator
Similar with all cars it seems. I remember when I had my 93 Accord, seemed nearly Civic sized next to an 09 Accord.
#3549
Team Owner
BMW 3 Series LCI live stream:
BMW Group Streaming. The official press streaming portal of the BMW Group.
12:00 Central European Time 07 May 2015
6:00 AM EDT
5:00 AM CDT
4:00 AM MDT
3:00 AM PDT
Sportline LCI vs. Pre-LCI (notice the Angel eye difference)
New B58 series engine 321hp/330lb torque with 8% better in fuel economy compare to N55
New Cup holder
Ambient lighting matching the interior highlight trims (dont know what that means. So if i have piano black trims, my ambient light will be blacklight?)
White gauge colors vs. orange
Others that i cannot find right now, all links have been removed
Overall, Meh, not as dramatic as the E9X LCI updates.
BMW Group Streaming. The official press streaming portal of the BMW Group.
12:00 Central European Time 07 May 2015
6:00 AM EDT
5:00 AM CDT
4:00 AM MDT
3:00 AM PDT
Sportline LCI vs. Pre-LCI (notice the Angel eye difference)
New B58 series engine 321hp/330lb torque with 8% better in fuel economy compare to N55
New Cup holder
Ambient lighting matching the interior highlight trims (dont know what that means. So if i have piano black trims, my ambient light will be blacklight?)
White gauge colors vs. orange
Others that i cannot find right now, all links have been removed
Overall, Meh, not as dramatic as the E9X LCI updates.
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#3552
Team Owner
i think i have said this last year.
BMW competes with Mercedes on everything, including stupidity.
BMW's 4 banger has 240, Mercedes 4 banger has 241
BMW put an Ipad on the dash, Mercedes put it in front of the dash
BMW, 320,330,340, Mercedes, C300, C400, C450 (none of those #s make sense except for 320)
BMW put ambient lights from night clubs into their new 7, because the new S class has it.
BMW competes with Mercedes on everything, including stupidity.
BMW's 4 banger has 240, Mercedes 4 banger has 241
BMW put an Ipad on the dash, Mercedes put it in front of the dash
BMW, 320,330,340, Mercedes, C300, C400, C450 (none of those #s make sense except for 320)
BMW put ambient lights from night clubs into their new 7, because the new S class has it.
#3553
Azine Jabroni
#3554
Senior Moderator
M3 Wagon...?
According to a recent report, BMW is preparing an estate version of the M3 range-topping model.
Slovenian Avto Magazin says the M3 Touring will probably be ready for this year’s Frankfurt Motor Show with sales starting shortly after.
No other details are currently available but it’s not hard to imagine the model will get sporty bumpers, larger wheels and all other exterior and interior features of the M3/M4. Power will likely be provided by the same 3.0-liter engine with 431 PS (317 kW) and a maximum torque of 550 Nm (406 lb-ft).
When fitted to the sedan and the coupe, this unit provides a 0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) acceleration in 4.1 seconds, so the M3 Touring will likely be 0.1-0.2 seconds slower. The 250 km/h (155 mph) top speed will remain unchanged.
Slovenian Avto Magazin says the M3 Touring will probably be ready for this year’s Frankfurt Motor Show with sales starting shortly after.
No other details are currently available but it’s not hard to imagine the model will get sporty bumpers, larger wheels and all other exterior and interior features of the M3/M4. Power will likely be provided by the same 3.0-liter engine with 431 PS (317 kW) and a maximum torque of 550 Nm (406 lb-ft).
When fitted to the sedan and the coupe, this unit provides a 0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) acceleration in 4.1 seconds, so the M3 Touring will likely be 0.1-0.2 seconds slower. The 250 km/h (155 mph) top speed will remain unchanged.
#3556
M3 does not get the new cupholder. They also downgraded the HVAC display to 7 segment numbering.
Last edited by MTEAZY; 05-18-2015 at 11:01 AM.
#3557
Team Owner
In case if anyone is wondering what is the difference between N55 and the new B58. Apparently a lot more than what I expected.
B58 (340i) Engine Technical Drawings
B58 (340i) Engine Technical Drawings
B58 (340i) Engine Technical Drawings
Turbo
Oil Pan
Oil Filter
Charge Air cooler
Cam cover
Engine cover
Coolant pump and heat management unit (note pump is mechanical, not electrical)
New cylinder head design (better cleaning so less carbon buildup on valve stems)
New charge air cooler (Intercooler)
New type of thermostat
Dedicate turbo electric coolant pump
Mechanical coolant pump (from electric)
Modified oil filters
Smaller, faster valvetronic
Turbo
Oil Pan
Oil Filter
Charge Air cooler
Cam cover
Engine cover
Coolant pump and heat management unit (note pump is mechanical, not electrical)
New cylinder head design (better cleaning so less carbon buildup on valve stems)
New charge air cooler (Intercooler)
New type of thermostat
Dedicate turbo electric coolant pump
Mechanical coolant pump (from electric)
Modified oil filters
Smaller, faster valvetronic
#3558
Senior Moderator
Cool post...thanks ooyeswindyoo...
#3559
Senior Moderator
Cool. For this year's Monterey Motorsports Reunion, BMW announces that they will be bringing in a 2002 M3 GTR Straßenversion. This will be the 2nd time ever this particular M3 has made the trip to North America.
Pics of the car...
Pics of the car...