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Originally Posted by gavriil
That, I believe. There was a ton of room for improvement with SMG and SMG-II.
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They shouldn’t force it on the buyer as the only Tranny available.
I gave it a chance, but I’ve driven two and they just don’t impress me.
For an experienced manual driver like me (20+ years), it just feels like you’re a passenger in a car driven by some kid who just learned to drive stick.
In a rating system with Auto being 1 and stick shift being 10, I’d give SMG a 2 or 3.
I have read good things about the latest SMG in the M5, but I still have my stereotypes.
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woooo!!
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hope this isn't a
. it's new to me at least. nice flash site showing the new 3-series along with some history of the car.
oh and dont miss out the vid/pics of the car in Gran Turismo 4 on the page.![Smile](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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oh and dont miss out the vid/pics of the car in Gran Turismo 4 on the page.
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Me and my buddy were talking about how the kidney grille started so narrow and over the years has just gotten fatter and fatter... until one day, when they'll be like Audi with the huge front grilles ![Big Grin](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
The new 3 is a letdown by design, but it will sell regardless.
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The new 3 is a letdown by design, but it will sell regardless.
#445
woooo!!
Originally Posted by goldmemberer
Me and my buddy were talking about how the kidney grille started so narrow and over the years has just gotten fatter and fatter... until one day, when they'll be like Audi with the huge front grilles ![Big Grin](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
The new 3 is a letdown by design, but it will sell regardless.
![Big Grin](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
The new 3 is a letdown by design, but it will sell regardless.
imo the front and sides look good. the rear i still cannot give a thumbsup but might grow on me in a little bit... gotta say though, im anticipating for the coupe!
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#446
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A few reviews (British ones) out on the net - all from a journalist session in Valencia, Spain this week. Only the 330 available at launch - 325 later.
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Photoshops, and Polls!!!!
This looks like the 5 series, I think it's an improvement!
If I had to give one word to describe the new three series it would be "handsome"
What would you describe it as?
If I had to give one word to describe the new three series it would be "handsome"
What would you describe it as?
#449
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Originally Posted by Jerky
the 0-60 is 6.1 seconds, is that right?
255 HP, 3417 pnds
255 HP, 3417 pnds
#451
Photoshops, and Polls!!!!
Originally Posted by biker
Just think how much better it could be if they shaved another 200lbs off. Heck, the 530 weighs less than 100lbs more.
what does this mean? it's a contradiction
"the 530 weighs less than 100lbs more"
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Originally Posted by machination
He meant the 530 is less than 100 lbs heavier.
530 - 3472 lbs
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woooo!!
Originally Posted by biker
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Preview: 2006 BMW 330i - - A dynamic new look to match the mechanicals. - - By by Henny Hemmes - - Source: The Car Connection
The new BMW 3-Series has yet to make its world debut at the Geneva Motor Show on March 1, but TCC is among the first in the world to drive the new vehicle — and you’re among the first to find out what BMW has in store with its new range of sports sedans.
Thirty years ago, BMW launched its original 3-Series sedan. The various editions have evolved into more luxurious machines, but the 3-Series never lost its heart and has always been able to please its owners with a lot of driving pleasure, or Freude am Fahren, as the Germans call it.
The 3-Series isn’t only an icon as a result — it’s the benchmark in its very competitive class. With the fifth generation ready to hit the market in March, expectations are high. That applies not only to its driving dynamics, but also to the bundled-in technology and its design.
The latter is probably the most contentious point for BMW-philes: Many fans hoped that the 3-Series would not have the controversial design of the 7-Series. But the more elegant lines of the new 5-Series gave them confidence that the upcoming 3 would be well balanced. And they will not be disappointed. Due to its wider stance (by 3.1 inches), combined with a slightly longer shape (by 1.9 inches), the BMW designers headed by Dutchman Adrian van Hooydonk, have found the right balance between sportiness, elegance, and BMW family looks.
Most popular
Adding up to 40 percent of all BMWs sold worldwide, the 3-Series models are by far the most popular from the German car manufacturer. So everything that made its predecessor such a success was preordained to be incorporated in the new version, and improved.
No new 3-Series can be developed without new engines. In this case there are four new powerplants: the 320i Valvetronic four has 150 hp, 6 hp more than before, and its torque has been increased by 17 lb-ft to 148 lb-ft. The 320d diesel engine, with a new common-rail system, delivers now 163 hp and has 251 lb-ft of torque.
Completely new are the 2.5- and 3.0-liter six-cylinder engines. The former has 218 hp and 184 lb-ft, while the latter, already in use in the 6-Series coupe and convertible inEurope, has 258 hp and 221 lb-ft. By the use of a combination of aluminum and magnesium for the crankcase, the 3.0-liter in-line six weighs just 355 lbs, making it the world’s lightest six-cylinder in its class. The 330i has the highest output per liter, the best power-to-weight ratio, and the lowest level of specific fuel consumption as well.
The needle of the odometer the 330i will stop at 155 mph and the new BMW should be able to accelerate from 0-60 in 6.1 seconds, the company says. All engines are teamed to a manual six-speed stick, but a six-speed Steptronic automatic transmission is available.
In all 3-Series versions, the engines are started with a start button in the dashboard. You can leave the key in your pocket or purse.
The chassis dynamic
BMW has spent much energy raising the bar for the 3-Series’ chassis and suspension performance. Depending on equipment and weight loads, the weight on the rear axle of the 3-Series varies from 48-56 percent. With rear-wheel drive this means better traction and directional stability than many rear-drivers. The longer wheelbase and wider track contribute to the improved driving qualities of the new Bimmer, which also uses a new front axle with MacPherson struts and a new five-arm rear axle.
The car also benefits from the new systems that were introduced in the 5-Series, such as DSC (Dynamic Stability Control) that has extra functions on the 325i and 330i, such as dry-braking the brake discs on wet roads, or “brake standby,” which works by pre-setting the linings for a quick response. The system also prevents the car from rolling back when setting of on a hill and avoids the “dive” effect before a standstill. A 0.6-inch lower sport suspension is standard on the Dynamic Executive version.
The safety equipment includes front airbags, side-impact airbags up front, and side curtain airbags. The structural stiffness of the car is so high, according to Prof.Dr. Burkhard Göschl, member of the Board, that side-impact for the rear passengers would not add any extra safety, so they are not available. Furthermore the 3-Series has two-stage adaptive brakelights that increase the intensity of during hard braking or whenever ABS is activated.
The 3-Series comes on 205/55-16 rubber, but the 330i has 17-inch wheels. Aluminum 18-inch and 19-inch wheels (approved for 225/35 rubber up front and 255/30 at the rear) are available. RSC, the Run-flat System Component that allows you to continue for up to 1200 miles after a tire leak, is an option. The 3-Series sedan is equipped with automatic air conditioning with a micron filter, cruise control (active cruise control is an option), a center armrest, power windows and mirrors, and height adjustable front seats. Besides ABS and DSC there is also Dynamic Brake Control and Cornering Brake Control (CBC).
The Executive version (in Europe) also has Park Distance Control in the rear, a rain sensor that automatically switches on the lights, and automatic air conditioning front and back.
The most important feature of the Dynamic Executive version is the 0.6-inches-lower sport suspension. This version is equipped with sport seats, xenon headlights and 17-inch wheels with 225/35 tires.
Engaging as ever
We started our driving sessions with the 320d, which proves again that diesel engines can be fun to drive. During our 2.5-hour drive through the Valencia region in Spain , we enjoyed the serious engine torque when accelerating in the mountains. When you push the car to its limits, DSC regulates everything gently — and with a push on the button in the center console you can disconnect DTC traction control. Only then, by application of the brakes, can you make the BMW tail-happy.
Steering is direct and precise, shifting is quick and supple with short lever throws. It’s too bad, though, that the center console is so high so that you touch it whenever shifting. The seat can be adjusted in a higher position to correct the problem, but that can cause its own problems as well for visibility.
With the 330i, the difference with the diesel engine is clear. The six-cylinder feels sporty, and wants to be pushed without getting noisy and on your nerves. Of course, its torque of 221 lb-ft is considerable and you can rely on it being available whenever you need it and in no time you are used to the active steering that is an option on the six-cylinder models. Until the M3 arrives, the 330i is the sport-tuned 3-Series. Our driving on the Albacete race track in the 330i with that sport suspension proved the new car engaging and direct — and by disengaging DSC, we enjoyed the qualities of the 330i even more than on the open roads.
U.S. sales begin this spring — and with its grip on the road as secure as its grip on BMW fans, the 3-Series is sure to remain the target in the class.
2005 BMW 330i
Base price: $37,500 (est.)
Engine: 3.5 liter in-line six, 258 hp/221 lb-ft
Transmission: Six-speed manual, rear-wheel-drive
Length x width x height: 178.0.0 x 71.6 x 55.9 in
Wheelbase: 108.6 in
Curb Weight: 3362 lb
Fuel economy (EPA city/hwy): N/A
Safety equipment: Dual front airbags, side curtain airbags, anti-lock brakes, Dynamic Stability Control
Major standard features: Air conditioning, power windows and locks, electric rear defroster, 17-inch wheels, cruise, tilt/telescoping steering wheel
Warranty: Four years/50,000 miles
Thirty years ago, BMW launched its original 3-Series sedan. The various editions have evolved into more luxurious machines, but the 3-Series never lost its heart and has always been able to please its owners with a lot of driving pleasure, or Freude am Fahren, as the Germans call it.
The 3-Series isn’t only an icon as a result — it’s the benchmark in its very competitive class. With the fifth generation ready to hit the market in March, expectations are high. That applies not only to its driving dynamics, but also to the bundled-in technology and its design.
The latter is probably the most contentious point for BMW-philes: Many fans hoped that the 3-Series would not have the controversial design of the 7-Series. But the more elegant lines of the new 5-Series gave them confidence that the upcoming 3 would be well balanced. And they will not be disappointed. Due to its wider stance (by 3.1 inches), combined with a slightly longer shape (by 1.9 inches), the BMW designers headed by Dutchman Adrian van Hooydonk, have found the right balance between sportiness, elegance, and BMW family looks.
Most popular
Adding up to 40 percent of all BMWs sold worldwide, the 3-Series models are by far the most popular from the German car manufacturer. So everything that made its predecessor such a success was preordained to be incorporated in the new version, and improved.
No new 3-Series can be developed without new engines. In this case there are four new powerplants: the 320i Valvetronic four has 150 hp, 6 hp more than before, and its torque has been increased by 17 lb-ft to 148 lb-ft. The 320d diesel engine, with a new common-rail system, delivers now 163 hp and has 251 lb-ft of torque.
Completely new are the 2.5- and 3.0-liter six-cylinder engines. The former has 218 hp and 184 lb-ft, while the latter, already in use in the 6-Series coupe and convertible inEurope, has 258 hp and 221 lb-ft. By the use of a combination of aluminum and magnesium for the crankcase, the 3.0-liter in-line six weighs just 355 lbs, making it the world’s lightest six-cylinder in its class. The 330i has the highest output per liter, the best power-to-weight ratio, and the lowest level of specific fuel consumption as well.
The needle of the odometer the 330i will stop at 155 mph and the new BMW should be able to accelerate from 0-60 in 6.1 seconds, the company says. All engines are teamed to a manual six-speed stick, but a six-speed Steptronic automatic transmission is available.
In all 3-Series versions, the engines are started with a start button in the dashboard. You can leave the key in your pocket or purse.
The chassis dynamic
BMW has spent much energy raising the bar for the 3-Series’ chassis and suspension performance. Depending on equipment and weight loads, the weight on the rear axle of the 3-Series varies from 48-56 percent. With rear-wheel drive this means better traction and directional stability than many rear-drivers. The longer wheelbase and wider track contribute to the improved driving qualities of the new Bimmer, which also uses a new front axle with MacPherson struts and a new five-arm rear axle.
The car also benefits from the new systems that were introduced in the 5-Series, such as DSC (Dynamic Stability Control) that has extra functions on the 325i and 330i, such as dry-braking the brake discs on wet roads, or “brake standby,” which works by pre-setting the linings for a quick response. The system also prevents the car from rolling back when setting of on a hill and avoids the “dive” effect before a standstill. A 0.6-inch lower sport suspension is standard on the Dynamic Executive version.
The safety equipment includes front airbags, side-impact airbags up front, and side curtain airbags. The structural stiffness of the car is so high, according to Prof.Dr. Burkhard Göschl, member of the Board, that side-impact for the rear passengers would not add any extra safety, so they are not available. Furthermore the 3-Series has two-stage adaptive brakelights that increase the intensity of during hard braking or whenever ABS is activated.
The 3-Series comes on 205/55-16 rubber, but the 330i has 17-inch wheels. Aluminum 18-inch and 19-inch wheels (approved for 225/35 rubber up front and 255/30 at the rear) are available. RSC, the Run-flat System Component that allows you to continue for up to 1200 miles after a tire leak, is an option. The 3-Series sedan is equipped with automatic air conditioning with a micron filter, cruise control (active cruise control is an option), a center armrest, power windows and mirrors, and height adjustable front seats. Besides ABS and DSC there is also Dynamic Brake Control and Cornering Brake Control (CBC).
The Executive version (in Europe) also has Park Distance Control in the rear, a rain sensor that automatically switches on the lights, and automatic air conditioning front and back.
The most important feature of the Dynamic Executive version is the 0.6-inches-lower sport suspension. This version is equipped with sport seats, xenon headlights and 17-inch wheels with 225/35 tires.
Engaging as ever
We started our driving sessions with the 320d, which proves again that diesel engines can be fun to drive. During our 2.5-hour drive through the Valencia region in Spain , we enjoyed the serious engine torque when accelerating in the mountains. When you push the car to its limits, DSC regulates everything gently — and with a push on the button in the center console you can disconnect DTC traction control. Only then, by application of the brakes, can you make the BMW tail-happy.
Steering is direct and precise, shifting is quick and supple with short lever throws. It’s too bad, though, that the center console is so high so that you touch it whenever shifting. The seat can be adjusted in a higher position to correct the problem, but that can cause its own problems as well for visibility.
With the 330i, the difference with the diesel engine is clear. The six-cylinder feels sporty, and wants to be pushed without getting noisy and on your nerves. Of course, its torque of 221 lb-ft is considerable and you can rely on it being available whenever you need it and in no time you are used to the active steering that is an option on the six-cylinder models. Until the M3 arrives, the 330i is the sport-tuned 3-Series. Our driving on the Albacete race track in the 330i with that sport suspension proved the new car engaging and direct — and by disengaging DSC, we enjoyed the qualities of the 330i even more than on the open roads.
U.S. sales begin this spring — and with its grip on the road as secure as its grip on BMW fans, the 3-Series is sure to remain the target in the class.
2005 BMW 330i
Base price: $37,500 (est.)
Engine: 3.5 liter in-line six, 258 hp/221 lb-ft
Transmission: Six-speed manual, rear-wheel-drive
Length x width x height: 178.0.0 x 71.6 x 55.9 in
Wheelbase: 108.6 in
Curb Weight: 3362 lb
Fuel economy (EPA city/hwy): N/A
Safety equipment: Dual front airbags, side curtain airbags, anti-lock brakes, Dynamic Stability Control
Major standard features: Air conditioning, power windows and locks, electric rear defroster, 17-inch wheels, cruise, tilt/telescoping steering wheel
Warranty: Four years/50,000 miles
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"BMW has spent much energy raising the bar for the 3-Series’ chassis and suspension performance. Depending on equipment and weight loads, the weight on the rear axle of the 3-Series varies from 48-56 percent. With rear-wheel drive this means better traction and directional stability than many rear-drivers,"
how did they do this? Did they add meaningless weight or something? This is definately a good idea for a RWD car, but I hope that the ZXP 3's will have a reduction of meaningless weight. I love the idea behind the 3 series, but 37.5k base?? The TL and G35/G35C sound like better buys.
how did they do this? Did they add meaningless weight or something? This is definately a good idea for a RWD car, but I hope that the ZXP 3's will have a reduction of meaningless weight. I love the idea behind the 3 series, but 37.5k base?? The TL and G35/G35C sound like better buys.
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Originally Posted by sipark
Just add a few options and let's see how much it comes out to...
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I hope the new M3 doesn't have the unoriginal rear of this mongrel. This engine may be 4 years behind the J32, but it's looking
on paper so far. Other than that, little excites me about this car. It will, no doubt, sell like hotcakes.
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Pricing hasn't been officially anounced yet. The higher MSRP probably includes some things that were an option before. Did you expect the price to go down?
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Originally Posted by goldmemberer
I hope the new M3 doesn't have the unoriginal rear of this mongrel. This engine may be 4 years behind the J32, but it's looking
on paper so far. Other than that, little excites me about this car. It will, no doubt, sell like hotcakes.
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Originally Posted by bigman
I think the engine is on par with the J32. I mean that last 330 manual ran faster in the 1/4 and trapped higher than the CL manual. For the most part if they raced it would be a drivers race, but from a highway roll, the 330 would still pull. And you can chalk up only so much to gearing and rear wheel drive, when the last 330 was out powered by the J32 in everyway. But, if you look at a 330's dyno sheet. They have a very smooth tq and hp curve that is relatively flat, not peaky like the J32. I think design wise their motor is not ahead, but no behind the J32.
When I said 4 years behind the J32, I meant in chronology and nothing else.
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Cost Drivers!!!!
Originally Posted by bigman
I think the engine is on par with the J32. I mean that last 330 manual ran faster in the 1/4 and trapped higher than the CL manual. For the most part if they raced it would be a drivers race, but from a highway roll, the 330 would still pull. And you can chalk up only so much to gearing and rear wheel drive, when the last 330 was out powered by the J32 in everyway. But, if you look at a 330's dyno sheet. They have a very smooth tq and hp curve that is relatively flat, not peaky like the J32. I think design wise their motor is not ahead, but no behind the J32.
BULLLSHIT. I trounced a staged Dinan3 in my 6speed with only a ice box.
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is everyone comparing purely power? cause i would much rather have the bmw engine because it revvs so smoothly and easily. driving my dads 328is is pure happyness, the engine is perfect!
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Got a flier in the mail today - won't have to fight the crowds at the show in Geneva - the dealer will have the car in the showroom the first day also. Demos soon therefater.
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The coupe?
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The convertible?
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The convertible?
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Cuz, suddenly I really want a 3-series...!
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3-series coupé-cabrio caught testing - - Source: Autocar
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Here’s the car that many BMW sources swore the firm wouldn’t build: the folding hard-top 3-series convertible. Caught undergoing night testing in Germany, this prototype shows the car to be close to production. We expect to see it unveiled in the autumn at the Frankfurt Motor Show, although the Touring estate will probably be the next variant on sale.
There’s no doubt that the engineering is extremely well executed, with interior space for four people and a very smooth roofline. The 3-series coupé was also caught on test: it’s a substantial-looking car with a high rear deck.
There’s no doubt that the engineering is extremely well executed, with interior space for four people and a very smooth roofline. The 3-series coupé was also caught on test: it’s a substantial-looking car with a high rear deck.
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Originally Posted by sipark
Teh AUDI nose!!!
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The coupe looks good.
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The lid has been lifted on the next-generation BMW 3-Series Cabriolet - and what a lid it is! Our spies in the current issue of Auto Express magazine have captured the world's first pictures, and the car clearly has a folding metal roof.
Although the current drop-top has been a huge hit - fending off competition from the Audi A4, Mercedes CLK and Saab 9-3 in the premium convertible sector - the mag's exclusive shots show how BMW aims to raise the stakes by being the first to create a coupe-cabrio.
Our insiders tell us that the newcomer is going to be more versatile than anything drivers have ever seen before, and it's all thanks to the forthcoming 3's spacious design. Look carefully at the mag's pictures of the CC, and you should be able to see what we mean. The novel design means the roof can be positioned in three different ways.
Most obviously, with the roof fully closed, the car will be a refined coupé. Owners can then slide the front panels back to create an open-topped targa. Finally, as the bootlid opens up, the whole arrangement slips gracefully down, creating a neat convertible free from any unsightly folded canvas.
The disguise on the prototype also attempts to hide another key feature- its pillarless design. This means buyers will have the option of lowering all the side windows with the roof up to give a clean, uncluttered look.
The company has gone to extreme lengths to ensure that its first coupé-cabrio is a success, calling upon Ger-man engineering expert Webasto to assist with the design of the folding mechanism. The pictures clearly show that the car will remain a full four-seater yet retain a substantial boot, as this is a crucial selling point for the lucrative American market.
The engine line-up will be similar to the saloon's, starting with 2.0-litre petrol and diesel four-cylinder units. There will be 2.5 and 3.0-litre straight-six petrols, with the possibility of a V8-powered M3, which would compete head-to-head with the Audi S4 V8.
Despite rumours of BMW introducing new 2 and 4-Series badges for its coupé and cabrio models, the car seen here is likely to retain the famous 3-Series badge. With such an excellent reputation and strong image with consumers, company bosses can see no significant benefit in changing.
The new 3-Series CC will make its public debut at the 2005 Frankfurt Motor Show - in exactly 12 months' time - and go on sale early in 2006.