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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 04:55 PM
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We'll see.... I guess they figure since they can't sell a $45k+ car, they'll try to get it on a piece of the pie with a $45k+ SUV.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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Hope they change the name. MSX sounds MS Sucks!
Could have been worse.....Acura could have named it after something even stranger like a high explosive......er.....wait....nevermind....they already named a vehicle after that.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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Don't look at me like that! You brought it on yourself.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by moog-type-s
could have been worse.....acura could have named it after something even stranger like a high explosive......er.....wait....nevermind....they already named a vehicle after that.
tnt?
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 05:35 PM
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Don't look at me like that! You brought it on yourself.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 05:42 PM
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tnt?
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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Looks like a mini Infiniti FX45 to me.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Motohip
Hope they change the name. MSX sounds MS Sucks!
I get "mm sex"
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 06:40 AM
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Good luck trying to sell 20K of these things - I don't see it happening.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 07:27 AM
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I'm going to go out on a medium to large sized limb here and guess they won't hit 20K per year. I think most people will get to the dealership and probably end up buying the cheaper, more pratical MDX that has the same drive train.

Not necessarily a bad thing I suppose.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 07:59 AM
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^ I thought that's what "halo" cars are for.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by biker
^ I thought that's what "halo" cars are for.

Maybe that's what the MSX can sort of be. At least its interesting and may peak some curiosity.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 08:29 AM
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i like wat i see so far..... since it doesn't show the grill yet
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 08:57 AM
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Maybe that's what the MSX can sort of be. At least its interesting and may peak some curiosity.
yea. maybe it'll at least get people into the showrooms.

until they see the TL and go ewwww!

Originally Posted by GunMetaL CLSPiG
i like wat i see so far..... since it doesn't show the grill yet
yea. i love it because i see no grille!
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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yea. maybe it'll at least get people into the showrooms.

until they see the TL and go ewwww!



yea. i love it because i see no grille!
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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^ I thought that's what "halo" cars are for.
This thing as a halo car for Acura

This company doesn't even have a flagship.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
This thing as a halo car for Acura

This company doesn't even have a flagship.


at MSX being a Halo car. it's not even that revolutionary. Acura wasn't even the first to make a CUV.

From my perspective, a Halo car is one that not only demonstrates the brands success, but should be the epitomy of what the brand's focus, integrity, strength, foundation, and it's character is all about. And if the MSX is a halo car, then Acura is living up to the reputation it's had for the last 5 years, at the least.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 01:47 PM
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I don't think this is a halo car, but it appears it will be the top of the line for the time being. Everyone keeps saying this is going to be MDX based, and it probably is, but the same underpinnings could also describe the RL. Maybe this is a modern interpretation of the old Legend coupe? (ie. more stylish at the expense of utility). Viewed from this point of view, it is acceptable to sell in low volumes and put form over function.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Colin
Maybe this is a modern interpretation of the old Legend coupe? (ie. more stylish at the expense of utility). Viewed from this point of view, it is acceptable to sell in low volumes and put form over function.
Blasphemy!
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Blasphemy!
LOL the Legend coupe was a beloved car, but the reality is that if the introduced it today, you would all blast it. I don't want another round of CLs or Legend coupes. Big FWD 2 doors can be sold under the Honda banner.

The next generation of chassis are supposed to be underway, but in the mean time you still have to build and sell cars AND this means you (the mfg.) have to use whats available. If you can fit 4 sets of clubs and 4 guys, this new vehicle will serve well where the RL has difficulty.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Colin
Viewed from this point of view, it is acceptable to sell in low volumes and put form over function.
20K/yr is not low volume -the NSX was low volume (and the RL now).
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by biker
20K/yr is not low volume -the NSX was low volume (and the RL now).
I was kinda assuming that in this economy it would sell similar to the RL or X6 so yeah, low volume. I don't think that it's 'cast in stone' where the demarcation line between 'high volume' and 'low volume' is. Should I have said 'relatively low volume?"
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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I was kinda assuming that in this economy it would sell similar to the RL or X6 so yeah, low volume. I don't think that it's 'cast in stone' where the demarcation line between 'high volume' and 'low volume' is. Should I have said 'relatively low volume?"
The FX is selling pretty well

over 1000 sales last month (and this is in a down economy...)

I don't think the MSX going to sell in MDX/TL/TSX numbers but it should do better than RL (especially if the interior is as nice as insiders are saying).
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 06:28 AM
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The RL sales projections were also at 20K/yr and look on how it fared.

....and this is a supposedly higher priced niche vehicle....
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 09:05 AM
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From the teaser images, I think it looks terrific...
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 11:53 AM
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The FX is selling pretty well

over 1000 sales last month (and this is in a down economy...)

I don't think the MSX going to sell in MDX/TL/TSX numbers but it should do better than RL (especially if the interior is as nice as insiders are saying).
I agree that it will fall somewhere in between. If the plans were for 20K a year and the industry is down 40%, I expect to see corresponding figures. My thoughts are that this was never planned to be a (relatively) high volume car, so if it becomes a (relatively) low volume vehicle, it probably hurts less than the TL becoming a low(er) volume car.
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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So do we have the pics of the real thing yet !!!

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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 12:18 PM
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I don't think it starts till April 10th. Patience my friend.
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 02:09 AM
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I'd take one!!

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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 02:43 AM
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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[QUOTE=Acurafiend;10672756][IMG]http://gallery.me.com/d_martin/100015

it will be taller 100%... the base is the MDX.
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 10:01 AM
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if that is indeed how it really looks like omg, you can already see that beak looks huge will it look like the one on the TL?
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 10:52 AM
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looks car-like a la that new nissan cuv.

the fin atenna suggests that the door line delineates the rear hatch. the view through the rear window must be horrendous.

im worried about the grille, however the grille, along with the wheels are photoshopped in for marketing reasons. if you look at the wheels, they are identical. the notching in the rotors line up with the spokes in both front and rear wheels. also, the lighting on the "beak" is unnatural. you could tell its added in.

i guess the fender flare seen in the TL will start being incorporated into the line up. The MSX has the same thing on the rear wheel.

i agree with others, this car wil stand much taller if its on the MDX platform.

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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 10:57 AM
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also, i cant stand that fake rear side window that is used for the sake of manipulating a window line. its POOR design. its an indication of gimmicky non-function...which really seems to be where acura is headed lately.
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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I don't think it starts till April 10th. Patience my friend.
My birthday. Even if the grille doesn't look bad its still going to be another X6.
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i like the wheels... even if they are copied from the M3
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Infamous425
i like the wheels... even if they are copied from the M3
Methinks that was the point....

Looking Acura's scaling of the beak grill - smaller and neater on the TSX, bigger and ungainly-er on the TL - it seems like this one is going to be even a bigger fail. They should just tack on the shield the spartans used in 300 on the front of the MDX, drop it a couple of inches and call it a day.
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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it seems like this one is going to be even a bigger fail..
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 07:26 AM
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Looking Acura's scaling of the beak grill - smaller and neater on the TSX, bigger and ungainly-er on the TL - it seems like this one is going to be even a bigger fail. They should just tack on the shield the spartans used in 300 on the front of the MDX, drop it a couple of inches and call it a day.


Could it be that some of the original rumors of this thing having suicide rear doors be true?
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 08:26 AM
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Methinks that was the point....

Looking Acura's scaling of the beak grill - smaller and neater on the TSX, bigger and ungainly-er on the TL - it seems like this one is going to be even a bigger fail. They should just tack on the shield the spartans used in 300 on the front of the MDX, drop it a couple of inches and call it a day.
I'm afraid I agree that this grill will be sized out of bounds with the other lines (similar to the TL). The TSX looks more acceptable, but remember that is the Euro Accord, so they had to fit it inside the already existing lines. The TL seems to be the real "Acura" implementation of this new icon grill . I don't particularly care for it, but better get used to it for awhile until it runs it's course.
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