can anyone please tell me what sub i should use (maybe a 10") for an enclosed box with an amp. was thinking about upgrading my factory speakers but it looks like too much work. anyone have pictures of the factory navi from the back, or where i hook it up. thanks

 

What are you looking for? do you want earth rattling bass? or just a lil' thump. JL Audio makes the best subs out there, they come in 10", 12" and larger. They have a whole range of models but are expensive and hard to find in actual stores. They will give you a crapload of bass. Alpine makes awsome subs too, they have various models in 10" and 12" as well. They are found in many stores, including Best Buy. I have 2 12" Alpine type Rs and i love n rock the shiet outta them everyday.

 

That is hilarious

 

Wow, dktran... Just wow...

OP, what's your budget? How much space are you willing to give up in your trunk? How much time are you willing to put into this? What type of tools do you have available for things like woodwork? These will determine what you're able to do system wise.

 

Thats what I thought as well when he said JL was the best.Just didn't feel like aurguing.
If I had money to spend on some good subs,JL would not even come to my mind.

 

Sorry Dktran31, we have a lot of internet fan boys on here who think the cheaper, less well known companies must be better because of their hyped up reputation. And you should be careful making such a blanket statement like that because they will pounce. Now I do think JL makes one of the best SQ sub on the market in the W7. And I make that statement by looking at the objective data, not a subjective opinion. But there will always be people who will disagree and claim they liked the sound of "brand X" better.

To the OP: As has been said, we need quite a bit more information before we can give you any type of recommendation. Otherwise you are going to get a lot of people telling you to run whatever they are running in their own vehicle.

 

You seem like a smart guy but cmon EVERYONE knows the w6 beats the crap out of the w7 in sq.

 

So, when we don't suggest JL, we're automatically fanboys? Yet, you can suggest JL all day and not be a fanboy? Makes sense to me...

 

#1: I have only once recommended JL Audio on this forum, and that was the Cleansweep as an alternative to a standard LOC. You might want to get your facts strait before making accusations.

#2: Jumping into threads where someone asks whether to run JL or Alpine and instead say they should run Sundown or other internet brands is acting like a fanboy. Then making exorbitant claims like "grossly underated" without being able to back it up with proper proof is acting like a fanboy.

 

Can you prove that the JL is better than the sundown or alpine?

pot call kettle..

 

What does that have to do with the discussion at hand? Or are you trying to prove my point?

 

You're tryin' to say were fanboys when you're doing the exact same thing guy..

 

I was just stating that JL was not the best and by far.
Now i'm just wondering why you were telling op or who ever,that the spl w7 was jl's sq driver.
like said before, EVERYONE knows the w6 is their sq driver.

 

You're the one that stood behind the guy that brought up JL in this thread, saying they're the best. Nut hugging, imo...

All I did was agree with Eggy on Sundown in that thread. Here's my post:

I don't see where I said "grossly underated" at all... And as for your wanting testing on a dummy load, that means nothing to anyone who cares what the amp will do in an actual install. Those are the only numbers that actually matter. That's what Jacob did in his testing, because that's what most people running his products want to see.

Also, another thing I thought of that makes the Sundown a more versatile amp than either the JL or the Alpine would be its crossover setup. It has enough crossovers to run a 2 way setup active. I don't know of any JL or Alpine amp that can do that...

 

Re-read my description of a fanboy and then explain how I am doing the exact same thing. You totally missed the point.

 

You do realize the W7 is JL's flagship sub and the W6 is a stripped down version that lacks several key features of the W7 that give it it's SQ edge. I thought he was just kidding.

 

Wow

anyway, op should drop a budget

 

I never said you did. Maybe you have a guilty conscience?

Wow, the fanboy mentality keeps coming. You are still trying to push the Sundown amp in another thread that has nothing to do with it. Again you guys are proving my point.

 

Really? Sure looks like it right here...

You're the one that suggested a product in this thread. You suggested JL. I simply defended myself when I was called a fanboy, which I'm not... Sundown products have been proven extensively in car audio competition lanes, something that JL cannot say... And if they try to claim it, I'll want to see proof, which I have been unable to find anywhere... There are a lot of other products that have also been proven in the lanes, and those are the ones I recommend, not just Sundown...

 

I was describing a fanboy so you can understand the type. You didn't make the Sundown recommendation either.

Again you are making accusations without checking the facts. Dktran31 suggested JL. I just agreed with him that they make great subs. I then went on to say we need more information before we can give a recommendation.

But you didn't defend yourself as a fanboy in that post. You started another off-topic Sundown campaign which happens to fit my description of a fanboy. And you continue it with another post.

 

relax you guys.

to the OP: if you're sticking with the factory head unit. You'll need amps that have differential balance input. that way you dont have ot run LOC or anything to modify the signal. just need to splice into some wires to convert the line into RCA. read the FAQ about it. Theres tons of info there. JL do make good subs, but not the best. The best is all depends on the people base on their needs. JL amp and Rockford fosgate amp has the differential balance input. I'd go with JL amp, which i currently using a JL 300/4 for front stage and sub. Theres other alternatives. Try out some of the new technologies that are coming out. Like D circuit amps being used for full range instead of just subs ie: JL HD series and Alpine PDX.

Since im also using a aftermarket HU as the main unit, while the stock HU is an secondary unit., i'm leaning towards picking up the Alpine PDX 4.150 then maybe later on a PDX 2.150

 

Everyone is going to have their own opinion on different subs. It's best if the op can audition the subs himself and decide what he wants on his own.

 

Thread starter... just go to some audio shops and auditions subs and speakers for yourself. Some shops will even let you try it out in your car. What sounds good to your ears might sound like crap to others.

To the others bashing on Steven Kephart, the guy has been/worked in the scene for a long time and worked in the industry for major company. I remember him from the g2 boards back in the early 2000's and have always given sound advice.