TSX: Sub install to factory h/u

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Old 10-26-2010 | 06:49 PM
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Sub install to factory h/u

Anyone know how to install subs in the factory h/u ?
Some people told me i need a adapter but idk if its true or not.

im trying to hook up a polk momo and a JL 1000watt amp. Lmk plz!!
Old 10-27-2010 | 09:24 AM
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u need a loc search for it
Old 10-27-2010 | 09:29 AM
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yes, like on1wheel said, you would need a Line Out Converter.
Old 10-27-2010 | 02:29 PM
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I'm looking to do the same thing. The cheapest decent one I have found is at Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=ATVPDKIKX0DER

$34 currently.

This site has better pictures of it:

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...OEM-HON20.html

My understanding is that it should plug up directly to the head unit without any splicing necessary. Please someone chime in if I'm mistaken.
Old 10-27-2010 | 04:04 PM
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wrong you splice it into speaker wires it converts the signal to rca's you can get em for like $7 on ebay
Old 10-28-2010 | 04:10 PM
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True. Just to clarify for the next person searching, the PAC AOEM-HON20 is a plug and play solution that doesn't require any splicing.

Yes a speaker level to line level solution is cheaper.
Old 10-28-2010 | 09:16 PM
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Yea splicing is cheaper and just as easy. Get splicing connectors the blue things and good to go.
Old 11-07-2010 | 03:25 AM
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i would to see this
Old 11-07-2010 | 10:29 AM
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You would like to see what. Thats another dumb comment from you. Google it if u wanna see it
Old 11-07-2010 | 10:35 AM
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check your amp cause my JL amp has built in low level converters
Old 11-07-2010 | 12:03 PM
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a JL Audio Cleansweep is great for this. ive used LOCs for years and they always sounded like shit. the JL is a little more complex in the way it works, just google it, its a little more expensive too, but it makes it sound like you arent even using an LOC.
Old 11-07-2010 | 06:38 PM
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Ahh yes another jl nut hugger. lolz. If they sounded like crap then maybe you dont know what your doin. Just a thought.
Old 11-10-2010 | 05:38 PM
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ive done over 50 cars with various LOCs over the last 15 years and nothing compared to the cleansweep. im not a jl nut hugger, your mom is my nut hugger. i know my stuff, i know what sounds good and what doesnt, just because its JL it doesnt mean shit, it could be alpine and i dont care, if it sounds good it sounds good.
Old 11-10-2010 | 06:06 PM
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let me rephrase the sound like shit part....you are stealing a signal from spliced wires when you use these and you rarely get a clean signal when you do this. there is no bass control except through your factory deck, it doesnt sound like it would when you run it through aftermarket.
Old 11-11-2010 | 08:33 PM
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Lots of bad information here,
You do not have to splice any wires to add a sub to the TSX, just use a pair of Honda speaker adapters (98 and up). Unplug the 6x9s and connect the adapters, easy.
If your amp has speaker level inputs then just run speaker wire from the adapters to the amp, easy, but your amp must be able to handle 10 volts or more at the inputs or you will clip like mad.
If your amp can’t handle 10volts (the JLs only go as high as 8v if I remember) then you need a pair of high powered LOCs. Hi powered LOCs are designed specifically for connections to decks and amps that use BTL (like the TSX amp). Using a standard LOC will cause distortion; this is where the “I’ve used LOCs in the past and they always sound bad” misconception comes from.
Using a clean sweep as a LOC is overkill, the clean sweep has the correct type of input for connection to the BTL speaker outputs but it is really designed to remove factory EQ which is not really needed here. Granted the Sub outs on the factory amp have a little bump in the response but there are so many variables with enclosure type and placement that it would hardly factor in.
So the OP needs a pair of 98 and up Honda speaker adapters and a pair of high power (25 watt min) LOCs designed for BTL amps.
I just need the ear plugs…
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Old 11-29-2010 | 01:24 AM
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Alright I dont want to sound like a dumb ass or anything, so I do not need to remove the head unit at all? I just need to connect the rear 6x9 speakers to the LOC and then hook up any amp like how you would on any other car?
Old 11-29-2010 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by mercman
Lots of bad information here,
You do not have to splice any wires to add a sub to the TSX, just use a pair of Honda speaker adapters (98 and up). Unplug the 6x9s and connect the adapters, easy.
If your amp has speaker level inputs then just run speaker wire from the adapters to the amp, easy, but your amp must be able to handle 10 volts or more at the inputs or you will clip like mad.
If your amp can’t handle 10volts (the JLs only go as high as 8v if I remember) then you need a pair of high powered LOCs. Hi powered LOCs are designed specifically for connections to decks and amps that use BTL (like the TSX amp). Using a standard LOC will cause distortion; this is where the “I’ve used LOCs in the past and they always sound bad” misconception comes from.
Using a clean sweep as a LOC is overkill, the clean sweep has the correct type of input for connection to the BTL speaker outputs but it is really designed to remove factory EQ which is not really needed here. Granted the Sub outs on the factory amp have a little bump in the response but there are so many variables with enclosure type and placement that it would hardly factor in.
So the OP needs a pair of 98 and up Honda speaker adapters and a pair of high power (25 watt min) LOCs designed for BTL amps.
I just need the ear plugs…
Jeff

Thats one route. But like I said I've used a cheapo loc and been fine. And my setups are by far superior to most here.
Old 11-30-2010 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PCN NGUYEN 24
Alright I dont want to sound like a dumb ass or anything, so I do not need to remove the head unit at all? I just need to connect the rear 6x9 speakers to the LOC and then hook up any amp like how you would on any other car?
Yes, one high powered LOC on each rear 6x9 connector using the adapters I mentioned. Using a standard LOC or speaker level inputs on most amps will cause distortion because the TSX amp is BTL and outputs twice the voltage as a standard factory radio.
Any good car audio place will have hi powered LOCs (you don’t need the $100.00 type).
Jeff

this will work
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_142LOC8...=detailed_info

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Old 12-05-2010 | 08:02 PM
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I think this is me not know a ton about technical audio setups, but if you just use the LOCs and honda adapters like you mentioned to hook up an amp. Can those wires handle the load that the amp is drawing? I always thought there needed to be a giant 10 guage wire(for example) going from battery to amp. Thanks for the clarification for the noob (me)
Old 12-05-2010 | 08:50 PM
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i probly woulda spliced wires lol... im ghetto tho
Old 12-05-2010 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by cober319
I think this is me not know a ton about technical audio setups, but if you just use the LOCs and honda adapters like you mentioned to hook up an amp. Can those wires handle the load that the amp is drawing? I always thought there needed to be a giant 10 guage wire(for example) going from battery to amp. Thanks for the clarification for the noob (me)
For the power and ground you would use the gauge specified by the amp manufacture.
The LOCs and adapters do not supply power to the sub amp and you will just need basic RCA cables to connect the LOC(s) to the amp input(s). All the LOCs do is lower the voltage level from the speaker wires to something in the amps input range.
Jeff
Old 12-06-2010 | 03:43 AM
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Alright I got another question. What would I do about the remote wire? I also appreciate you helping us.
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