i read that you have to let new subs break in.... i was kind of anxious after installing my new subs i didnt realize you had to let tehm "break in" so i kind of let the system go for about half an hour....
will there be any consequences of this??? please let me know asap.. from now should i just keep the volume low or what? thanks!

 

it's recommended that you let the voice coils warm up a little on your subs everytime your turn them on. they say they will last longer and work better but it's not mandatory. ive seen guys replace blown subs during db drags w/o letting them "break in".... hope this helps bro...

keep :blaze:n

 

not likely you have damaged anything..... the main reason is just so everything can warm up..You won't get peak sound out of a cold system. If your system is a competition level set-up you definitely want to run it before cranking it.. it will allow everything to "strech" before the competition.. for example my speaker has moved over 8 inches during competition (almost four in and easyily four out), if the rubber (foam in less expensive speakers) gromet doesn't get a chance to warm up it could easily snap...

Electrically you should be fine cranking a new system, but you would also be fine to race around in a brand new car with 0 miles on it even though it is highly discouraged......it is a breaking in phase, they have already tested all of your speakers and amps to max capability prior to shipping from the factory.

hope that helps a little..

 

I would be carefull...I did this when I first got mine installed and one of the leads broke off on one of my subs. The shop gave me a new one, but that was why it happened.

You should keep the volume and a moderate level for a week or 2. You can blast it all the way, but warm it up first (play a song or 2) and dont keep it very loud for longer than 1 min or so.

You will be able to tell when everything is ready, it will be much louder and you will be able to crank it for long amounts of time with no problems.

 

8 inches for the VMax!!!! I havent heard of any sub than can do even half that....are you sure about that?

 

I've never heard of any sub that can do that either.

 

How deep does that sub have to be in order to have 8" of travel? Holy Cow. I am the third vote for never having heard of a sub that will do it.

 

Ya, I'm sure.....it scared the crap out of me.....was almost positive the speaker would go...

It was during a bass test...... The tone starts really really high pitched and slowly goes down, level by level... I have hit over 141dbl in competition with this ONE 12inch I use in my car set-up. Once the tone got below 20 hz.. it becomes inaudible to the human ear....however that speaker just went wild!!!! I don't think it was too good for the speaker honestly....it freaked the $hit out of me... no sound and the speaker in-and-out ferociously .. Espically due to it being in competition...I thought I blew it... but it was fine, luckly... won the competetion too... I was 1st in the 0-160watt class and I placed 2nd in the entire comp as well as in the 300+watt catagory.
I hapend to be using a PG (phoenix gold) M50 ... supposedly 50watts x 2 HAHAHAHA, I love how they underrate these older amps...this one put out 715RMS!!! but rated at 50 X 2
If you really want to find out how much power your amp is actually pushing out you can find the formula at www.conceptconcept.com in the "techmaster" section.... I wouldn't really pay too much attention to the "how to claculate DB" formula, but the wattage formula has been scientifically proven to be much more accurate than the wattage posted on the amp, you don't honestly think thoes "$50 - 1000watt amps" are acutally putting out 1000watts do you?
here is the direct link : Tech master page at conceptconcept.com
Unfortunately there is no standard or regulatory commity to handle or police these products... that's why you really have to pay attention to the acutal quality of work and the company that produces the products.... for example alot of screens are made by one company and then sold out to brand name companies to add their name tag...

and just for fun.....check out their Quad-Coil 8000 Watt 15inch.... that freakin' speaker would blow the trunk straight off!!! 8000 watt max 4000 watt RMS sub....click here

Ideally, I would love to pick up this CSP-15... no point of getting 2-3-4-5 speakers when one will sound louder, are better quality and take up less space..


I had a s-10 pick-up for my last viechle... me with one 12inch concept mid class sub....my competition was in the exact same truck, except he had a third door allowing him to slide a 4.5ft x 4.5ft box into the back that held EIGHT (yes eight!!) PPI 12 subs....Well that day quality out performed quantity.... 141.3 for me!!! 139.8 for him!! The best thing was his friends were running the competition...once they saw that they were going to have to pay me (an outsider) the first place money.. they told "johnny" to pull his truck around and "win this", so they wouldn't have to shell out the money to an outsider.... HAHAHAHAHA idiots!! I spent that money nicely!! Only a few hundred bucks though....10 bucks to enter and the winner takes everything...it was pretty cool deal, they would do this every week... so you could, and I did, adjust your system during the week and then pay $10 for a reading on thursday nights.

 

Buddy, I couldn't believe it myself... I would like to say I'll do it again and film it.... but honestly I don't think it was too good for it... but it stands as a testament for the craftsmanship.. the rubber surrounding the speaker is about a 1/4 thick of strong rubber... if it was foam or thin rubber it would have let go for sure!!

Basically not something I would do again purpposly.....

and if your were going to look at the speaker from behind there is about four inches of possible travel in....it actually looks very similar to the basket for the CPS-15 (link in the post above)

And if I did not see this with my own eyes I would be the first one calling BS!! I have seen voice coils let go, heck I even seen a brand new speaker get pugged into a 120v outlet!! BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-BOOOOM **warranty!!** . Ya people are stupid...but it was a sight to see....the speaker just pushed out bass for a few seconds and then----BOOM - bye bye voice coil!! But I've never heard of that much travel on a speaker..

If rumours are true there are a couple of MB-Quart subs can be directly plugged into a 120v outlet for a "burp" test!!!!

 

just noticed the CSP-15's magnet is almost 30lbs alone!!! 28.125lbs, just the magnet!!!! HOLY CRAP!!

 

honestly I know those subs are very good but no sub has that much possible travel...sorry but I still call BS.

I know when the sub hits it hard it looks like its flying all around alot more than it is. I mean most "normal" subs dont have much more than 1 inch of total travel. I know competition subs can move alot more than that...but 8 inches...I doubt it.

 

I wouldn't have believed it either.... that's what I said eairlier...

 

ok...not to keep dragging this out but, can you post a link to the specs of this "super sub" that states the XMAX so we can put this to rest?

 

I can't post any specs that would "prove" the movement that I saw during that comp.. The speaker was vibrating regularly until it went below the 20hz level. The speaker stopped vibrating to the bass and honestly looked like someone was pushing and pulling on it..it moved much much slower than when it was producing sound.. I want to say it only moved 3-4 times per second, ovbiously speculating, irregular from the typical vibration which would be impossible to count the ammount of times of movement.

I'm sure what I was doing, was not and would not be backed up by the company as something that should be done to their subs.. I honestly think it was a just trying push the speaker too hard and when the sound went out of range (lower than the 20 hz) I should have turned the volume down.....

I will also fess up and say it is possible it didn't travel eight full inches.. maybe a maybe I'm over estimating due to the shock of seeing it for the first time on my sub in competition....The only way I would feel comfortable showing you would be to push the sub manually while it is off and take a pic of the movement.. I will say it is at least 6 inches of movement...but irrelivant until I get pics...

when I get a chance I'll take pics.. but yeah we should put it to rest until then...cheers, and thanks for the civil disagreement I appreciate the debating with out dumb comments like some of these threads end up turing into to.

l8s ousig..

Patrick

 

With a 2.25" wide surround, it is physically impossible to move even 6 inches.

 

Really rubber doesn't stretch? hummmm..... interesting?? Anyway I will post pics eventually like I said, I don't want this to be a back and forth arguement....




Talk to ya soon guys,

Patrick

 

Keep us posted.

 

It is recommended to break them in. An easy way to do it is before you install them, hook them up to a 50 watt amp. Obvouisly, this isn't enough power, but the subs will vibrate like crazy. If you can't, ask to see if a shop will do it for you. Or you can even just hook them up to one of the speaker wires for the rear speakers.

 

I gave mine some time to break in. This just means I didn't crank it for the first week or so.
I was busy adjusting balance and such anyway. The sound quality has improved as the surround breaks in. It is now easier to move the sub and it sounds better then it did right out of the box.

Just keep the voume under teetch rattling levels for a week and then let her rip