NEW: ICE-LINK: iPod links iPod directly to receiver
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NEW: ICE-LINK: iPod links iPod directly to receiver
I mentioned this in another thread about Panther, the new Mac OS, but it is of more general interest. The following is an ad that I received (in response to an inquiry by me, not spam). I think it explains the device pretty well, but follow the links to their web site for more details.
The company has apparently sold similar devices in Europe and they are compatible with Hondas there, and Acura is on the list of cars they plan to support (although not in the first release).
I hope the device works with TSX's with Navi, too, but not known. (I'm sure that the song information will not display, but it sure would be cool if it could.)
Any way, this is not an endorsement -- since it hasn't shipped yet, and isn't made for Acura yet, who knows? But it may be worth watching for developments.
ice->Link: iPod
Is now available for pre-order!
Important Order Information
We are scheduling shipments for the first week of November for ICE-Link for the
3rd Gen iPods with initial shipments including BMW, AUDI, VW, FORD compatible and Sony systems.
ICE-Link for CLASSIC iPods is scheduled to be released by the end of November
Will be expanding vehicle and aftermarket radio coverage to most models by December.
Initial quantities are limited, pre-orders will be filled first.
Click here to order your ICE-Link <http://www.densionusa.com/merchant/merchant.mvc> , or go to http://icelink.densionusa.com <http://icelink.densionusa.com/>
<http://densionusa.com/merchant/merch...tegory_Code=IA>
Product Overview
Integration: ICE-Link takes the place of your CD Changer and it operates like one.
iPod will be started when CD changer is selected on your head unit, and will be paused when other source is selected.
Track control from radio (and steering wheel controls if present): provided.
Charging the iPod while in the car: ICE-Link includes a Firewire port that supplies 12V DC at all times. You need to use the standard Firewire charging cable that came with your iPod. This is not required for ICE-Link operation.
Clear sound quality is ensured with a specially design symmetric amplifier integrated into ICE-Link. This provide superior quality over current solutions (please read MacWorld Nov 2003 "Mobile Mac: Have iPod, Will Travel" by Philip Michaels and Lisa Schmeiser for an unbiased opinion on quality of other products.) We do not use FM, neither tape adapters!
Installation: Remove radio to connect vehicle specific cables. Original cabling will not have to be cut or altered in any ways, but may connect into provided socket. Requires specific radio removal tools, and some installation knowledge. Security code may be required to unlock radio.
We strongly recommend professional installation.
Compatibility: ICE-Link for classics is not compatible with 3rd generation models and 3rd generation models do not work with classic iPods.
ICE-Link will not display music information on your car's radio as currently no such support exists.
Contents of ICE-Link package
Info&Sales: 562-595 5153 (Monday to Friday, 10am to 4pm PST)
Fax: 562-684 4010
E-mail: info@densionusa.com <mailto:info@densionusa.com>
www.densionusa.com <http://www.densionusa.com/>
The company has apparently sold similar devices in Europe and they are compatible with Hondas there, and Acura is on the list of cars they plan to support (although not in the first release).
I hope the device works with TSX's with Navi, too, but not known. (I'm sure that the song information will not display, but it sure would be cool if it could.)
Any way, this is not an endorsement -- since it hasn't shipped yet, and isn't made for Acura yet, who knows? But it may be worth watching for developments.
ice->Link: iPod
Is now available for pre-order!
Important Order Information
We are scheduling shipments for the first week of November for ICE-Link for the
3rd Gen iPods with initial shipments including BMW, AUDI, VW, FORD compatible and Sony systems.
ICE-Link for CLASSIC iPods is scheduled to be released by the end of November
Will be expanding vehicle and aftermarket radio coverage to most models by December.
Initial quantities are limited, pre-orders will be filled first.
Click here to order your ICE-Link <http://www.densionusa.com/merchant/merchant.mvc> , or go to http://icelink.densionusa.com <http://icelink.densionusa.com/>
<http://densionusa.com/merchant/merch...tegory_Code=IA>
Product Overview
Integration: ICE-Link takes the place of your CD Changer and it operates like one.
iPod will be started when CD changer is selected on your head unit, and will be paused when other source is selected.
Track control from radio (and steering wheel controls if present): provided.
Charging the iPod while in the car: ICE-Link includes a Firewire port that supplies 12V DC at all times. You need to use the standard Firewire charging cable that came with your iPod. This is not required for ICE-Link operation.
Clear sound quality is ensured with a specially design symmetric amplifier integrated into ICE-Link. This provide superior quality over current solutions (please read MacWorld Nov 2003 "Mobile Mac: Have iPod, Will Travel" by Philip Michaels and Lisa Schmeiser for an unbiased opinion on quality of other products.) We do not use FM, neither tape adapters!
Installation: Remove radio to connect vehicle specific cables. Original cabling will not have to be cut or altered in any ways, but may connect into provided socket. Requires specific radio removal tools, and some installation knowledge. Security code may be required to unlock radio.
We strongly recommend professional installation.
Compatibility: ICE-Link for classics is not compatible with 3rd generation models and 3rd generation models do not work with classic iPods.
ICE-Link will not display music information on your car's radio as currently no such support exists.
Contents of ICE-Link package
Info&Sales: 562-595 5153 (Monday to Friday, 10am to 4pm PST)
Fax: 562-684 4010
E-mail: info@densionusa.com <mailto:info@densionusa.com>
www.densionusa.com <http://www.densionusa.com/>
It looks like it just operates through the remote input on the ipod, so it will just allow controling of the ipod. Does anyone know what the head unit model is? it says it works with:
Pioneer DEH/M6106 (39100/S6A/E312/M1) head unit used in the the Honda Jazz, Civic and Accord.
Pioneer DEH/M6106 (39100/S6A/E312/M1) head unit used in the the Honda Jazz, Civic and Accord.
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i would definitely be interested in this if it was compatible with the 3rd gen ipods and compatible with the acura navi system. this would be perfect for the aux, oh man if the navi screen could display the stuff on the ipod, i would buy it instantly!
Originally posted by bheywow
from the description of what it is compatable with the chances of it being used in the tsx are less than 0%
from the description of what it is compatable with the chances of it being used in the tsx are less than 0%
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The product is also available in the UK and is new to America.
If you check the UK website, http://www.ihavetohave.it/acatalog/ICE-Link_Honda.html , you'll find a better list of European cars that it works with:
That is the European Accord, so I have hopes it will work with our TSX, but I don't know the head unit used in the TSX.
If you check the UK website, http://www.ihavetohave.it/acatalog/ICE-Link_Honda.html , you'll find a better list of European cars that it works with:
This version of ICE-Link is compatible with the Pioneer DEH/M6106 (39100/S6A/E312/M1) head unit used in the the Honda Jazz, Civic and Accord.
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This version of ICE-Link is compatible with the Pioneer DEH/M6106 (39100/S6A/E312/M1) head unit used in the the Honda Jazz, Civic and Accord.
If you think that we have the same head unit as that civic, again you are sadly mistaken
This version of ICE-Link is compatible with the Pioneer DEH/M6106 (39100/S6A/E312/M1) head unit used in the the Honda Jazz, Civic and Accord.
If you think that we have the same head unit as that civic, again you are sadly mistaken
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I received the following e-mail from Denison: 
I still haven't decided whether to go forward. They didn't address my other question about the Navi system, although I suppose it is possible the same interface will work with it. And $200 is a bit pricey.
(I'm currently using a Griffin iTrip with my iPod to transmit to the radio -- it works fine, but I am losing some fidelity.)
If anyone does try it, please let us know!
Hi Jim,
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Acura TSX uses the same interface as the Honda, so it should work with your
car. You may place order online for the Honda set and put your car info into the remarks field.
You can see the optional mounting adapter list by selecting the ProClip product category on the left
as Acura mounts are not listed under Honda.
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Best Regards,
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On-Line Sales/Support
Dension USA, Inc.
Info & Sales (562) 595-5153 (Monday to Friday 10am to 5pm PST)
Support (562) 595-5143
www.densionusa.com
"Let the Music be with You!"
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Acura TSX uses the same interface as the Honda, so it should work with your
car. You may place order online for the Honda set and put your car info into the remarks field.
You can see the optional mounting adapter list by selecting the ProClip product category on the left
as Acura mounts are not listed under Honda.
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Best Regards,
_
On-Line Sales/Support
Dension USA, Inc.
Info & Sales (562) 595-5153 (Monday to Friday 10am to 5pm PST)
Support (562) 595-5143
www.densionusa.com
"Let the Music be with You!"
(I'm currently using a Griffin iTrip with my iPod to transmit to the radio -- it works fine, but I am losing some fidelity.)
If anyone does try it, please let us know!
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I emailed them the day it was announced, they read my email but haven't yet responded 
If I didn't have the SNHOND3 in there I'd consider it, but the ability to switch tracks isn't that big of a deal on an iPod. Give me the LCD window on the head unit with controls there and I'm in!
If I didn't have the SNHOND3 in there I'd consider it, but the ability to switch tracks isn't that big of a deal on an iPod. Give me the LCD window on the head unit with controls there and I'm in!
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You know, I was just reading this thread because I was searching for itrip stuff. I got an itrip and have tried using it, and it sucks. Anyway, I went to the dension site, and apparently they are offering a system that has compatibility with the TSX. Here is the link: http://densionusa.com/merchant/merch..._Code=IA_Honda
and it should be compatible with all currently available ipods. they are on back order till 5/10, but this is definately something I am looking at....
EDIT: not selling my snhond3
EDIT: not selling my snhond3
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I think I noted this before, but just remember that if you sell your car and do an integrated install that the next person may not have your generation of iPod. For that matter, you might get a new one that won't work with it. So, just plan your future with the product and if it's what you want go for it.
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Originally posted by virus7
and it should be compatible with all currently available ipods. they are on back order till 5/10, but this is definately something I am looking at....anyone wanna buy my SNHOND3?
and it should be compatible with all currently available ipods. they are on back order till 5/10, but this is definately something I am looking at....anyone wanna buy my SNHOND3?
Originally posted by djresonance
I was unclear on whether the icelink comes with the snhond3 adaptor or another custom adaptor, so I emailed them and asked. This page shows a user who installed in a 2003 accord with the soundgate.
I was unclear on whether the icelink comes with the snhond3 adaptor or another custom adaptor, so I emailed them and asked. This page shows a user who installed in a 2003 accord with the soundgate.
snhond3 -> gli -> ice-link -> ipod
rather than:
icelink -> ipod (dont know if you will need a gli, or where it could go)
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Originally posted by virus7
yeah I though about going that route, but you are just just adding another interface.
snhond3 -> gli -> ice-link -> ipod
rather than:
icelink -> ipod (dont know if you will need a gli, or where it could go)
yeah I though about going that route, but you are just just adding another interface.
snhond3 -> gli -> ice-link -> ipod
rather than:
icelink -> ipod (dont know if you will need a gli, or where it could go)
Hi,
The I11_Honda_R3 kit includes the SNHOND03 interface, however at this time
we don't have any of these interfaces - will take about 2 weeks.
http://densionusa.com/merchant/merch..._Code=IA_Honda
If you can purchase it from somewhere else then you only need our
I11_Sony kit -
http://densionusa.com/merchant/merch...IA_AFTERMARKET
Best Regards
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The I11_Honda_R3 kit includes the SNHOND03 interface, however at this time
we don't have any of these interfaces - will take about 2 weeks.
http://densionusa.com/merchant/merch..._Code=IA_Honda
If you can purchase it from somewhere else then you only need our
I11_Sony kit -
http://densionusa.com/merchant/merch...IA_AFTERMARKET
Best Regards
Support
. I think I'll wait and buy the icelink kit so I can impress my friends with ipod control through my stereo 
oh, djresonance, thanks for clearing that up. so the I11_Honda_R3 is just a I11_Sony with a snhond3 included?
well then I guess that is cool that I already have the snhond3.
Thanks for the info!
well then I guess that is cool that I already have the snhond3.
Thanks for the info!
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Could you split the signal between the SNHOND3 and the ICElink? Or, more specifically, can I install BOTH XM and iPod/ICElink off of the same SNHOND?
XM is the priority, but I'd really like the opportunity to have both. Does anyone on the board have both, and can they provide a materials list/price breakdown?
Oh, and I have navigation, just to make it a little more complicated
XM is the priority, but I'd really like the opportunity to have both. Does anyone on the board have both, and can they provide a materials list/price breakdown?
Oh, and I have navigation, just to make it a little more complicated
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I am a newbie to this forum and I wanted to know what do I need to purchase to get my iPOD connected to my 04 Acura TSX non-nav edition. To my understanding, I will need the SNHOND3 to connect it to my radio and if I want to be able to control the iPOD from my steering controls, I will also need to purchase the ICElink. Am I correct in that statement?
I would also like to mount my iPOD close to my radio so that I can control my iPOD without really having my steering wheel or radio controls, controlling my iPOD. Do you guys know of any websites where I could find mounts fitted for the TSX?
Thanks in advance for the replies.
SRoye_98
I would also like to mount my iPOD close to my radio so that I can control my iPOD without really having my steering wheel or radio controls, controlling my iPOD. Do you guys know of any websites where I could find mounts fitted for the TSX?
Thanks in advance for the replies.
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Here is a TSX bracket - haven't seen it but I have one on order... just haven't picked it up.
http://www.tessco.com/products/getPr....do?sku=433592
There are any number of "universal" holders that will fit this... like the one for the iPod at www.proclip.com. Looks OK, same mounting holes. Do NOT look on this site for TSX bracket - not there.
http://www.tessco.com/products/getPr....do?sku=433592
There are any number of "universal" holders that will fit this... like the one for the iPod at www.proclip.com. Looks OK, same mounting holes. Do NOT look on this site for TSX bracket - not there.
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Originally Posted by elduderino
Here is a TSX bracket - haven't seen it but I have one on order... just haven't picked it up.
http://www.tessco.com/products/getPr....do?sku=433592
There are any number of "universal" holders that will fit this... like the one for the iPod at www.proclip.com. Looks OK, same mounting holes. Do NOT look on this site for TSX bracket - not there.
http://www.tessco.com/products/getPr....do?sku=433592
There are any number of "universal" holders that will fit this... like the one for the iPod at www.proclip.com. Looks OK, same mounting holes. Do NOT look on this site for TSX bracket - not there.
PanaVisa Bracket for Acura TSX
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new adapter links ipod to stock controls...
http://www.apple.com/ipod/bmw/
wonder if Acura is on the list for this adapter... anyone have any info?
wonder if Acura is on the list for this adapter... anyone have any info?
Originally Posted by vinsanity
wonder if Acura is on the list for this adapter... anyone have any info?
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What is really necessary is tying the display to the built-in display on a car, <I>that's</I> what people need. Sure, navigating through wimpy playlists with regular controls are ok, but when you're talking a few thousand songs, that's different.
i think apple made a smart, big leap with the dock connector allowing full control over the system through that interface, i wonder what "built-in" support it already has for outputing its display.
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I just got an Icelink installed a week ago
Just ran across this site and saw this thread. I bought an Icelink a few weeks ago and just had it installed in my nav equipped tsx.
It comes with a snhond3 unit, the icelink adapter for the unit, and an ipod cradle and cable that attaches to the icelink.
If you have a nav car, you need to purchase and splice in the accord audio harness cable to the snhond3 cable.
I mounted the cradle in the storage compartment under the nav system and skipped the purchase of a mounting surface, since I didn't feel the need to be able to look at the ipod, i actually prefer it hidden. Just popped out the light in the compartment and the cable fits through perfectly, no modifcations necessary.
The system works fantastically. You can control the skip forward or backward function from your dash, and you can also fast forward through songs. The icelink includes power, so it charges the ipod as you use it, no GLI needed, btw. When you start the car, the Icelink turns on the ipod and starts playing whatever the current playlist is, or the default "all songs" playlist if you just hit the play button. When you turn off your car, it shuts off the ipod using the pause and power off method, so when you start the car again, it picks up in the song exactly where you left off.
The whole thing works great, and I'm really happy with it, but it was kind of pricey. $230 for the icelink with snhond3, $40 for the accord part, plus $130 to have it professionally installed. I could never have installed it myself, so it was probably worth it in the end.
Now I can drive around with my ipod hidden in the storage compartment, firmly docked so it doesn't shift around, and can control it from the steering wheel.
Someone asked if you could hook another system into the snhond3 with the icelink installed. You could use a Y splitter on the RCA jacks, but the icelink uses the data port, so all you could do is get an extra set of RCA inputs.
Hope this helps.
It comes with a snhond3 unit, the icelink adapter for the unit, and an ipod cradle and cable that attaches to the icelink.
If you have a nav car, you need to purchase and splice in the accord audio harness cable to the snhond3 cable.
I mounted the cradle in the storage compartment under the nav system and skipped the purchase of a mounting surface, since I didn't feel the need to be able to look at the ipod, i actually prefer it hidden. Just popped out the light in the compartment and the cable fits through perfectly, no modifcations necessary.
The system works fantastically. You can control the skip forward or backward function from your dash, and you can also fast forward through songs. The icelink includes power, so it charges the ipod as you use it, no GLI needed, btw. When you start the car, the Icelink turns on the ipod and starts playing whatever the current playlist is, or the default "all songs" playlist if you just hit the play button. When you turn off your car, it shuts off the ipod using the pause and power off method, so when you start the car again, it picks up in the song exactly where you left off.
The whole thing works great, and I'm really happy with it, but it was kind of pricey. $230 for the icelink with snhond3, $40 for the accord part, plus $130 to have it professionally installed. I could never have installed it myself, so it was probably worth it in the end.
Now I can drive around with my ipod hidden in the storage compartment, firmly docked so it doesn't shift around, and can control it from the steering wheel.
Someone asked if you could hook another system into the snhond3 with the icelink installed. You could use a Y splitter on the RCA jacks, but the icelink uses the data port, so all you could do is get an extra set of RCA inputs.
Hope this helps.
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[QUOTE=elduderino]Here is a TSX bracket - haven't seen it but I have one on order... just haven't picked it up.
http://www.tessco.com/products/getPr....do?sku=433592QUOTE]
I would love to see step by step intall pics for this.
http://www.tessco.com/products/getPr....do?sku=433592QUOTE]
I would love to see step by step intall pics for this.
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I'll take some pictures tonight. want me to email them to you or post them here? I don't have any step by step pics, it isn't that different than what you already have, but I can take shots of how it is installed and how the cable goes through the light socket.
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Originally Posted by rickzilla
I'll take some pictures tonight. want me to email them to you or post them here? I don't have any step by step pics, it isn't that different than what you already have, but I can take shots of how it is installed and how the cable goes through the light socket.
That would be great.
