jjashaa

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alright guys.. i need some help.. haha.

lot of the guys or most of the guys over on the genesis coupe forums are performance/track junkies.. -_-;;

+ the car is pretty new so not a lot of people.. buy anyways..

i'm looking for a replacement to my 8" sub in the rear deck.

this "Premium" sound system by Infinity/JBL is... not so "Premium" haha.. lacks A LOT of bass compared to the stock one in my 2G TL.

Just need some sub you guys would recommend for free air.

SG81

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i remember Pioneer IMPP's were really good, but don't know if you can still find them

swoosh

iTrader: (5)

the tittle on the thread is so deceiving LOL

well am interested to know the same....so subscribed

n0rm

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Do you have a budget in mind and are you looking for a drop in replacement?

eggyhustles

drop in replacement is gonna sound like crap on that thin metal

go with a good sealed 8 or 10

dave_ramkumar

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i know

jjashaa

iTrader: (23)

a box??

the trunk is super small....

eggyhustles

FI Q only needs .6 sealed or 1.2 ported

very tiny

mattastick

Or you could deaden the hell out of rear deck and find an 8" subwoofer to run Infinite Baffle. Add a small amp, and you'll be money. Keeps weight down (heaviest part will probably be the deadener) and keeps your trunk space free.

What's the mounting depth of the space you have?

jjashaa

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thats my space. lol

eggyhustles

You can def fit 1-1.5 cubes and 2 amps in there

jjashaa

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^ yea, but not doing that.. i just need a little more bass... thats all..

lets just say.. it sounds like i have no bass at all..

eggyhustles

Once you throw a good sub in there, you're mids and highs are gonna be almost non existent

might as well do it the right way now..

jjashaa

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^ meh.. i only need a little to some bass anyways

eggyhustles

Well, you could put some better speakers in the front doors

jjashaa

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ehh... i think they're fine.

eggyhustles

Didn't you just complain about no bass

jjashaa

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yea. does that mean i really absolutely need to replace my front speakers as well?

no.

eggyhustles

No

you can either get a new sub or get new front speakers

either or would help out in the bass department

n0rm

iTrader: (6)

That's what the replacement sub is for?

edit: since he already has the rear taken apart, it would be easier to just replace the sub.

phee

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jackhammer

eggyhustles

replacement comps>drop in sub

Just dropping a sub in there is gonna sound like crap unless he's goes infinite baffle..and well that's alot of work

mattastick

Eggy, normally we agree, but this time I have to disagree with you. The factory sub is set up to run infinite baffle, as are most factory subs. So to drop in an aftermarket sub, with a couple hundred watt amp, would not be that difficult. Would he want to deaden the rear deck? Absolutely, but it would not be that hard to get an infinite baffle effect out of a simple drop in woofer.

That being said, another option for you OP would be to replace the front speakers, like Eggy mentioned. I've done a couple of setups with just a decent set of front comps, and no sub, and they sound pretty good for the cost. You can do a decent hu (if they've got a dash kit for your car yet, if not a LOC), amp and comps for around $300-400, depending on the quality of components you want to use. You can spend even more if you really wanted to, but that's going to be your middle of the line stuff...

eggyhustles

The cost of deadening the hell of the rear deck isn't worth it imo

if he ends up with a decent <600 watt sub stage, the mids and highs won't be able to keep up..and he'll have to sink even more money into it.

I noticed he has navi so i vote comps with a 2 ch amp that has a dsp

mattastick

600w IB is not going to have the same output as 600w in a box... And the cost of deadening the deck really wouldn't be that much. A couple sheets of Damplifier Pro should take care of it... I know my doors are much more solid with 3 sheets, let alone the 6+ when I fully finish them.

eggyhustles

True

i still vote comps though lol

CSWBiggs

what does the rear package tray look like...

if the package tray is large enough...i'd modify and i'd take a JL Audio M10IB5 or DLS OA 10 and drop it in...install a LOC, a level control, and amp...and call it good...large good sounding Infinite Baffle Subwoofer with very little loss of space...

mattastick...i'd like to see some of the stuff you've done...because you sound like a dumb hick from back east that needs to step away from all things car audio...

thanks and have a nice day..

-Biggs

Jonesi

Consider yourself warned. Tone it down.

mattastick

Why do you say that? Just curious...

If you search Biggs, you can find my build log. I'm pretty sure it's up to date, except for results...

CSWBiggs

i wish i could say...but i was warned to play nice...and play nice I shall...

I indeed have found your build thread...and it serves as a perfect piece of evidence to my previous statement

-Biggs

mattastick

PM me? And include pics of that 4th order of yours, if you would. I had a similar idea, but couldn't get the port the way I wanted it, so I never built it. I'm just curious how you actually pulled it off.

Jonesi

To each their own just be civil and everything is cool. We can all learn something from each other.

97BlackAckCL

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get a JL 8w3, shouldn't set you back more than $150 or so, this is what I bought to swap into my 4Runner to replace the stock 8" sub

swoosh

iTrader: (5)

what is the RMS output of JL 8w3 in free space ??? coz might need an amp to power that sucker !!!

dykyy

I would drop an 8 inch Infinity sub in there. I was thinking of doing that on my tl but the mounting depth was like six inches and that just wouldnt work. However it should be perfect for you. Might not be necessessarily true, but guy at the audio shop told me that Infinity makes the best 8 inch subs out there!?!

mattastick

"Best sub" is completely dependent on what you're trying to achieve. For example, the loudest 8" sub is either a DD 1508 or a Sundown SA-8 prototype (although I think the proto is extremely close to the production model). Both of them have done over 150db in crx's, the DD in a rex built by Alan Dante and the Sundown in a rex that Sundown owner Jacob Fuller. The problem is, if you take that information to most audio shops, they will tell you that both DD and Sundown are swap meet trash, and they should be sold so you can buy JL/Infinity/Rockford/etc...

taintedplay

^ truth. while jbl might be decent (and very overpriced) most stuff from shops is way overpriced and crappy compared. ill put up almost any shop parts against any of the big names like IA, sundown, dd, aq, and on money to output ratio. i suggest getting an FI q in a very small box. that would be like less than a foot cubed. if not that, with a box that small, you prob could build it to hang down from the rear deck. so you would mount it ontop to the bottom of the rear deck. just some ideas

princelybug

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Josh, this is the same issue Mike was trying to alleviate, remember? There's no clear cut solution, just the lesser of the evils. All you have to do is go to the 3G TL side...and this same thread has already been played out there.

jjashaa

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i was a 2Ger..

haha.. but yea.. i talked with Mike a lot.. i just picked up his 10" ED sub in a 12x12x12 box.. haven't wired up anything tho.. haha.

imma try playing around with/measure the rear deck and the 10" and see what i can come up with..

haha. thanks to everyone who helped.