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goMO 06-01-2009 05:03 PM

Dumb component questions..
 
What do you guys with 2G TL's do for components?

Are there any component speakers where the tweeter would be inside the woofer? I have a 2002 TLS and I'd have to cut holes somewhere up on the door panels to get the tweets there. I'm nervous about that.. And if so, is there any point to having components together or would that defeat the purpose?

mattastick 06-01-2009 05:14 PM

There are "components" that are together. They're called co-axial speakers. They're pretty pointless. The good thing about separate components (or separates as they're sometimes called) is that you can separate the tweeter from the mid driver, and the external crossover.

D.Greenwood13 06-01-2009 06:54 PM

I love my components, i angle mounted my tweets on the black panel that covers where mirrors bolt to the door, but your best bet if your serious about SQ is to get u some kick panels custom made!

'03TL-S 06-01-2009 06:54 PM

i have components for my fronts and rears on my 2G TL, get's pretty loud. and i did cut holes on my doors to install it. just gotta do it right.

Steven Kephart 06-01-2009 09:32 PM

Separating the mid from the tweeter isn't what makes a component set better. The advantage is that they have a much better crossover. The crossover is the heart of any speaker and will often times cost more than the individual speakers themselves. You can find a good coaxial speaker with an outboard crossover, or even a component set with the option to pole mount the tweeter. Some of my favorites for doing this are the Diamond Audio D6 components. But keeping the tweeter close to the midrange is always a good idea.

Steven Kephart 06-01-2009 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by D.Greenwood13 (Post 10961589)
I love my components, i angle mounted my tweets on the black panel that covers where mirrors bolt to the door, but your best bet if your serious about SQ is to get u some kick panels custom made!


I'm pretty serious about sound and I'm not doing kick panels. But then I don't think they are as helpful as people think. If you want to see my reasons for this, then check this thread out. Go to page two for a detailed explanation about kick panels.

D.Greenwood13 06-02-2009 06:46 AM

Doing kick panels brings the soundstage together much better than just putting your speakers in the doors and is a big reason why kickpanels are used over and over in car audio competitions and actually soundstage is a judging criteria many of the time. Also kickpanels usually keep the woofer and tweeter mounted closer to eachother which makes it seem like the same source. Im not talking about those Q-logic kickpanels either, im talking about custom made ones that are designed for the speaker like these ones we have Diamond D6s in
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...1111774593.jpghttp://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...1096237576.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...0511_14506.jpg

Steven Kephart 06-02-2009 10:10 AM

I'm fully aware of what kick panels are. Go to the link I posted above and you will see a technical explanation on why I don't think kick panels are worthwhile.

D.Greenwood13 06-02-2009 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by Steven Kephart (Post 10963810)
I'm fully aware of what kick panels are. Go to the link I posted above and you will see a technical explanation on why I don't think kick panels are worthwhile.

No link!

Steven Kephart 06-02-2009 10:24 AM

Put your cursor over the "then check this link out" above.

D.Greenwood13 06-02-2009 10:53 AM

Gotcha but the forms are temporarily closed

D.Greenwood13 06-02-2009 01:13 PM

Good point man, kickpanels help in some vehicles but not all, every install weve done with them have helped out alot.

mattastick 06-02-2009 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by Steven Kephart (Post 10962212)
Separating the mid from the tweeter isn't what makes a component set better. The advantage is that they have a much better crossover. The crossover is the heart of any speaker and will often times cost more than the individual speakers themselves. You can find a good coaxial speaker with an outboard crossover, or even a component set with the option to pole mount the tweeter. Some of my favorites for doing this are the Diamond Audio D6 components. But keeping the tweeter close to the midrange is always a good idea.

This

Steven Kephart 06-02-2009 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by Steven Kephart (Post 10963866)
Put your cursor over the "then check this link out" above.

Hmmm, my link above didn't go to the right place. Sorry about that. Here is the correct link: http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp~TID~61864~PN~1~TPN~1

Remember, the section specifically on kick panels is on page two of that thread.

eggyhustles 06-03-2009 05:42 PM

i would only get kick panels if i was getting a 3 way setup..


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