Best way to power component speakers?
10-16-2007, 05:45 PM
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Best way to power component speakers?
So is getting a 4 channel amp bridged to a component sytem get good sound quality, or just getting a two channel amp and connecting components to them?
10-17-2007, 05:08 AM
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Can be either way. Some people will say you loose a bit of SQ bridging. Some will say you do not. Using a 4 channel bridged is usually a cheaper way to get more power than a big two channel amp. And it gives you the flexibility of running actively if you even got that bug.
10-17-2007, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ImSofaKingWeTaDid
So is getting a 4 channel amp bridged to a component sytem get good sound quality, or just getting a two channel amp and connecting components to them?
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10-17-2007, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mercman
Do you mean Bridge to double the power 4-ch to 2-ch or Bi amp-separate amps channels for the mids and tweeters?
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I asked this same question to Eric Stevens of Image Dynamics. I just got an Audison 6.9 which will do 70 x 4 or 240 x 2. I am powering my Image Chameleons with it. He said that more power would be better than more control. At least for my setup it worked. Running active has it's upside for sure but, does require more setup. He said sound quality would not suffer in my setup running bridged versus active. Again, that's just in my setup.
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10-17-2007, 11:53 AM
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My only complaint with the Chamleons is the lack of low impact. These mids are monsters and just seem like they should play with some more kick. It's not bad but, I think could be better. The new Image XS comps are suppose to have better midbass. The tweets on the Chameleons are outstanding to my ears.
10-17-2007, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by AcuraX2
My only complaint with the Chamleons is the lack of low impact. These mids are monsters and just seem like they should play with some more kick. It's not bad but, I think could be better. The new Image XS comps are suppose to have better midbass. The tweets on the Chameleons are outstanding to my ears.
10-18-2007, 04:29 PM
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Now my components are bridged off a JL audio 300/4. I was messing with my speakers last night and moving the sound from left to right. I notice that either way I move it, both speakers are still playing sound. The sound just gets a little lower. I played a couple songs where certain parts only play on one speaker and I don't get that anymore. Both speakers play the same sound. Is this what's suppose to happen when you bridge?
10-18-2007, 05:03 PM
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no. You need to adjust the input on the amp. I know nothing about JL amps, but i assume you want to have input (from HU) going to channels 1 and 3 of the amp. If you have input on all 4 channels (namely front-left, front-right, rear-left,rear-right) what you are in essense doing is feeding the front-left and front-right signals into channels 1 and 2, which are bridged into one speaker. Thus the speaker gets the left and right signal. Put the front-left into channel 1, and the front-right into channel 3. Then when u bridge 1/2 and 3/4 you get left and right stereo respectively. One thing you DO lose when bridging is fader. Not a big deal, but just a FYI.
Sorry if i got a bit of running sentences and whatnot there and if i wasnt clear...just had a triple cappucino during lunch lol
Sorry if i got a bit of running sentences and whatnot there and if i wasnt clear...just had a triple cappucino during lunch lol
10-18-2007, 07:46 PM
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well i figured out the problem. i guess i misread the manual the first time and wired it up wrong. i was suppose to use a y splitter rca and run the left to channels 1 and 2 and right to 3 and 4. boy what a difference this makes. music sounds more surrounded now than before.
10-19-2007, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by zidenx
well i figured out the problem. i guess i misread the manual the first time and wired it up wrong. i was suppose to use a y splitter rca and run the left to channels 1 and 2 and right to 3 and 4. boy what a difference this makes. music sounds more surrounded now than before.
hope this makes sense.
10-19-2007, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by AcuraX2
According to the JL manual, you do need to split the rca signal.
Moral of the story, 99.9% =/= 100% sure lol
on a side note, i can mathemetically prove that 99.99999(repeating) is = 100%
K enough friday rambling, back to work lol
10-20-2007, 07:27 PM
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About your lack of bass, I went through the same thing a while back after i installed my first set of components upfront.
I am assuming you just put them in the doors, the problem is that the doors are not sealed therefore it does not matter what speakers you put in there, there will be a lack of base.
The solution to this is to put them in some speaker pods on the floor, I eventually did this using fiberglass in my old car and it made a big difference.
Not sure if you are up for making them because it does take time but it is well worth it. It was the first time i used fiberglass and they came out very good.
I now love fiberglass and am always looking for new projects where I can use it, fiberglass really gives you unlimited options as far as building stuff.
If you are interested let me know I would have to do some searching but i came across a tutorial that really shows you every step in the process which helped me out big time.
About your lack of bass, I went through the same thing a while back after i installed my first set of components upfront.
I am assuming you just put them in the doors, the problem is that the doors are not sealed therefore it does not matter what speakers you put in there, there will be a lack of base.
The solution to this is to put them in some speaker pods on the floor, I eventually did this using fiberglass in my old car and it made a big difference.
Not sure if you are up for making them because it does take time but it is well worth it. It was the first time i used fiberglass and they came out very good.
I now love fiberglass and am always looking for new projects where I can use it, fiberglass really gives you unlimited options as far as building stuff.
If you are interested let me know I would have to do some searching but i came across a tutorial that really shows you every step in the process which helped me out big time.
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Wish I can get JL...im getting the brand with the "B". Anyways, if I bridge the amp on the rear inputs on the GTO whats the power output on those channels? The amp gets 104watts to 4 channels, but i think Ill power a subwoofer, does this mean the sub will get 208 watts of power and the other 2 gets 104watts?
10-21-2007, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by pjoseph
AcuraX2
About your lack of bass, I went through the same thing a while back after i installed my first set of components upfront.
I am assuming you just put them in the doors, the problem is that the doors are not sealed therefore it does not matter what speakers you put in there, there will be a lack of base.
The solution to this is to put them in some speaker pods on the floor, I eventually did this using fiberglass in my old car and it made a big difference.
Not sure if you are up for making them because it does take time but it is well worth it. It was the first time i used fiberglass and they came out very good.
I now love fiberglass and am always looking for new projects where I can use it, fiberglass really gives you unlimited options as far as building stuff.
If you are interested let me know I would have to do some searching but i came across a tutorial that really shows you every step in the process which helped me out big time.
About your lack of bass, I went through the same thing a while back after i installed my first set of components upfront.
I am assuming you just put them in the doors, the problem is that the doors are not sealed therefore it does not matter what speakers you put in there, there will be a lack of base.
The solution to this is to put them in some speaker pods on the floor, I eventually did this using fiberglass in my old car and it made a big difference.
Not sure if you are up for making them because it does take time but it is well worth it. It was the first time i used fiberglass and they came out very good.
I now love fiberglass and am always looking for new projects where I can use it, fiberglass really gives you unlimited options as far as building stuff.
If you are interested let me know I would have to do some searching but i came across a tutorial that really shows you every step in the process which helped me out big time.
Thanks for the suggestions. Been there done that. This is not a case where I just got the speakers and threw them in the doors. I have had these comps in several vehicles, installed in kick panels and in doors, with and without sound damping and reflex pads. My saying the lack of punch was just my opinion compared to other top comps I have tried. Not an install issue. Thanks for the input.
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