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Old 02-22-2005 | 01:04 AM
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just needed to know how the n1 is? picture quality good? this guy at best buy is giving me a deal on an n1 for 1300... and was wondering if its worth it. i currently have a avh-p6600dvd .. tell me what you think. and pics of screen quality would be greatly appreciated! thanks
Old 02-22-2005 | 01:16 AM
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Weren't you asking this question at caraudio.com?

I don't think digital photos of a 1/4-VGA LCD is really gonna help you decide. THe pic looks good, but what are you looking for? The best picture is the Alpine with the VGA screen, the 1/4 VGA screen that every other unit has is good but not AS good...
Old 02-22-2005 | 01:20 AM
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Well, looks like it wasn't you...

There are two levels of resolution available from in-dash motorized head unit monitors (headrest and overhead monitors are a different beast, but you don't seem to be talking about them).

VGA resolution for a standard-width display is 480 lines high by 640 wide. Widescreen VGA is 480 high by 800 lines wide. NOTE that this is NOT higher resolution, because it describes the screen WIDTH, and vertical lines/pixels are how we talk about resolution.

1/4 VGA is what almost every single 6.5, 5.8, and 7" widescreen LCD for cars is. That's only 234 lines high by 400 lines wide. For VCR tapes and most TV reception, that's OK. DVD and the RGB nav signals can use more pixels. (The TSX OEM 8" screen is VGA, I beleive...)

Alpine has two units that use Toshiba's polysilicon screens which are very bright and which respond very fast. They are VGA resolution (480 lines vertical) AND they are wide, so they are often called VGA-W for widescreen. I believe both of them for 2005 have an S-video input too... which is kinda important if you are trying to take advantage of a better picture.

But if you are talking about any in-dash monitors besides these two Alpines, all their resolution is the same, and the only variations would be brightness and any video performance / degradation occuring on the circuit board...
Old 02-22-2005 | 11:20 AM
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Old 02-22-2005 | 11:56 AM
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well on mine i really like the resolution and its good! I've put pictures on it as my background and I've been completely satisfied..only thing i recommend is getting a MP3-CD Disk changer so you can leave the Navi-DVD in...
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well on mine i really like the resolution and its good! I've put pictures on it as my background and I've been completely satisfied..only thing i recommend is getting a MP3-CD Disk changer so you can leave the Navi-DVD in...

What brand mp3/cd disk changer do you have?

I'm very happy with the picture from just about every single angle. No complaints about the screen at all here.
Old 02-22-2005 | 02:31 PM
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See? I told you that 1/4 VGA is good enough for most everything for a 7" car LCD!

You have to have a pretty damn good source and a pretty damn good signal method to see the difference... screen picture quality usually won't be the issue... the PIO has great brightness and great off-axis response, which are NOT functions of resolution but are important in a car.
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yea same here i have the pioneer.......damn i forget the name its a 6 disc changer


veerols05- how did you get pictures on the screen
Old 02-22-2005 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tsx536

What brand mp3/cd disk changer do you have?

I'm very happy with the picture from just about every single angle. No complaints about the screen at all here.
I havent bought one yet...mainly cause I'm very tight on cash right now...Cause I'm spending all my money on my Comptech stuff...but I know Sony makes a good one...make sure it has a modulator so you can see the CD-Text...


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yea same here i have the pioneer.......damn i forget the name its a 6 disc changer


veerals05- how did you get pictures on the screen
Burn a CD-R w/ mainly all data make sure not picture files or sound clips...it has to be atleast 100MB...then attach a file with pictures in it i think you can put up to 5 pics on it...and then pop it into the DVD Drive and go through settings and highlight background picture and import from DISC...theres a whole section with detailed instructions in the manual...


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...make sure it has a modulator so you can see the CD-Text...
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Can you explain that, please? Thanks.
Old 02-22-2005 | 08:02 PM
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Can you explain that, please? Thanks.
There is a modulator that comes with most CD changers that allows you to get the cd text on to your headunit...so it doesnt jst show track 01..02..03..etc..instead it shows the name of the track itself...
Old 02-22-2005 | 08:17 PM
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Really? Most CD changers? I've never heard of this modulator. In fact, I think you are confused... and that there is no such thing.
Old 02-22-2005 | 08:23 PM
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Really? Most CD changers? I've never heard of this modulator. In fact, I think you are confused... and that there is no such thing.
well not most...but some...Cause when i got my avic installed from hifi buys i was looking for a cd mp3 changer and he said i needed one with a modulator to make the CD Text to work...with the avic...some acutally come with them..i know JVC or Sony makes one with a modulator...
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think the guy at HiFi Buys played you, man. Sorry... but if the HU doesn't have CD text, no "modulator" is gonna give it to you.

Perhaps a specific brand had an adaptor to allow two units to be connected... but I think he sold you an FM Modulated unit and didn't use it...
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Originally Posted by VeeralS05
I havent bought one yet...mainly cause I'm very tight on cash right now...Cause I'm spending all my money on my Comptech stuff...but I know Sony makes a good one...make sure it has a modulator so you can see the CD-Text...




Burn a CD-R w/ mainly all data make sure not picture files or sound clips...it has to be atleast 100MB...then attach a file with pictures in it i think you can put up to 5 pics on it...and then pop it into the DVD Drive and go through settings and highlight background picture and import from DISC...theres a whole section with detailed instructions in the manual...


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well i just burnt a cd with some pics, but when i popped it in, it says i need a /BG/ folder? what the hell is that, read the manuel but didnt find anything
Old 02-28-2005 | 11:34 PM
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well i just burnt a cd with some pics, but when i popped it in, it says i need a /BG/ folder? what the hell is that, read the manuel but didnt find anything
Make a folder named BG and put the pics in there....
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Originally Posted by VeeralS05
I havent bought one yet...mainly cause I'm very tight on cash right now...Cause I'm spending all my money on my Comptech stuff...but I know Sony makes a good one...make sure it has a modulator so you can see the CD-Text...
Do they make a changer that can read MP3 disks too? Biggest strike against the AVIC for me is the lack of a discrete DVD drive. But if I could leave the navi DVD in the deck and then play MP3 disks from a changer, I'd be cool with it. Don't know if there are changers that can do this though.
Old 03-01-2005 | 03:43 AM
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i just sold mine... i think the n1 is ok, i actually like the p6600dvd, becasue it plays vcd which the n1 doesnt. also it is annoying to keep switching discs for the nav. Thats the only negative things, other than that its a pretty cool headunit. But if I were you, I will wait for the n2 is coming out pretty soon and has better nav. system
Old 03-01-2005 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by optionet
i just sold mine... i think the n1 is ok, i actually like the p6600dvd, becasue it plays vcd which the n1 doesnt. also it is annoying to keep switching discs for the nav. Thats the only negative things, other than that its a pretty cool headunit. But if I were you, I will wait for the n2 is coming out pretty soon and has better nav. system
yeah the 6600dvd isnt bad its just that, the best buys here in utah dont carry them,and they couldnt order it for me plus the one i bought has a messed up hide away unit. the vcd's im not worried about my xbox can handle that.. plus the switching dvds wont matter either once i get my dvd changer in..

anyone know if its diffucult to install the n1 on your own?
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The AVIC-N2 is due out soon: http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...541245,00.html
Old 03-01-2005 | 09:38 AM
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with the avic-n2 you cannot play dvds while moving, it detects you going over 3mph and it shuts the screen off
Old 03-01-2005 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by VeeralS05
Make a folder named BG and put the pics in there....

have you burnt a cd with pics on it and tried to put it on the avic?


what did you do?
Old 03-01-2005 | 10:17 AM
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got it, but the pic is to big, what are the dimensions of the screen cause i can just photshop it
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with the avic-n2 you cannot play dvds while moving, it detects you going over 3mph and it shuts the screen off
Really, where did you hear that?
Hopefully you can get around this by disconnecting the VSS wire. Still...I hope they don't do that.

I'm hoping to be able to turn my N1 into an N2 later by flashing the new N2 firmware on it. Not sure if this is going to possible, but the units look physically identical so I got my fingers crossed.
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with the avic-n2 you cannot play dvds while moving, it detects you going over 3mph and it shuts the screen off
Ok I'm tired of this BULLSHIT!! I have the fuckin avic hooked up to and i play DVD's while driving...there is nothin that it shuts off over 3mph or any of that crap...just ground the brake wire and you can play them...

STOP GIVING OUT FALSE INFORMATION...
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Do they make a changer that can read MP3 disks too? Biggest strike against the AVIC for me is the lack of a discrete DVD drive. But if I could leave the navi DVD in the deck and then play MP3 disks from a changer, I'd be cool with it. Don't know if there are changers that can do this though.
yeah they make mp3-cd changers...search online and ebay I dont think they are too expensive and its deffinately worth it...i'm thinking of just forgetting CD's and hooking up an iPod to it using the iTrip
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Originally Posted by optionet
i just sold mine... i think the n1 is ok, i actually like the p6600dvd, becasue it plays vcd which the n1 doesnt. also it is annoying to keep switching discs for the nav. Thats the only negative things, other than that its a pretty cool headunit. But if I were you, I will wait for the n2 is coming out pretty soon and has better nav. system
any ideas when the N2 will be out?
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this sucks i cant find any pictures that fit the screen!
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Ok I'm tired of this BULLSHIT!! I have the fuckin avic hooked up to and i play DVD's while driving...there is nothin that it shuts off over 3mph or any of that crap...just ground the brake wire and you can play them...

STOP GIVING OUT FALSE INFORMATION...


IM SAYING THE AVIC-N2 WONT!


I DID THE SAME THING WITH THE WIRING TO PLAY DVD'S WHILE MOVING!
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Originally Posted by VeeralS05
Ok I'm tired of this BULLSHIT!! I have the fuckin avic hooked up to and i play DVD's while driving...there is nothin that it shuts off over 3mph or any of that crap...just ground the brake wire and you can play them...

STOP GIVING OUT FALSE INFORMATION...
You need to breathe into a paper bag for a while, kid. You're no source of gold-plated information yourself, so don't start throwing stones...
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anyone one know where i can find pix, that will acutally fit the screen?
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wanting to make an MP3 cd, do i have to make a specific folder, like i did for the background images (BG)?
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Nope, you don't have to. But I would make seperate folders to organize them. You can change folders by pushing up and down on the right control stick.
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Originally Posted by MeldyS26
anyone one know where i can find pix, that will acutally fit the screen?
you can resize a pic in a program like photoshop..and and just play around with it and make it fit..i think my 640x800 pictures fit the N1
Old 03-01-2005 | 08:29 PM
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Nope, you don't have to. But I would make seperate folders to organize them. You can change folders by pushing up and down on the right control stick.
yes i know



i just made an mp3 cd, did not work though. i do have a 6-disc changer am i supposed to put it into the head unit?
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Meldy is correct, I just got word from our manager that the avic-n2 will not play dvds if it detects the vehicle moving over 3 mph. I have also heard that if owners of the N1 update their unit with the N2 software (they will sell it since it is required to hook up the xm tuner with navtraffic) will also be affected by this issue. You can probably get around it by not hooking up the speed sensor wire but then none of the performance indicators will work. HTH.
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Originally Posted by VeeralS05
any ideas when the N2 will be out?
My installer will have his first batch of N2 units on the 12th (next week).

This is the reason why I haven't bought the N1 yet.
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Originally Posted by g6civic13
Meldy is correct, I just got word from our manager that the avic-n2 will not play dvds if it detects the vehicle moving over 3 mph. I have also heard that if owners of the N1 update their unit with the N2 software (they will sell it since it is required to hook up the xm tuner with navtraffic) will also be affected by this issue. You can probably get around it by not hooking up the speed sensor wire but then none of the performance indicators will work. HTH.
Well the performance indicators are pretty gay..they just show speed, voltage, and an compass... I was thinking it would show RPM's or something...that would be pretty cool, but nope...it doesnt
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N2 is at Crutchfield already: http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Cd83L0P...h=pioneer+avic
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[QUOTE=VeeralS05]Ok I'm tired of this BULLSHIT!! I have the fuckin avic hooked up to and i play DVD's while driving...there is nothin that it shuts off over 3mph or any of that crap...just ground the brake wire and you can play them...

STOP GIVING OUT FALSE INFORMATION...[/QUOT

Pay attention dumb ass the new avicn2 will not play video while driving due to a
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