MarbleGT

What speakers would you suggest to hit you in your chest. I want to able to feel the bass. The amp is a BD501 and the speaker is a L7. You just dont feel it like i wish you could. I prefer punchy over bassy, what would you guys suggest. http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/612003/3 <--- Thats mine, lemme know what you think i should do differently.

elduderino

Since a great woofer in a less-then-optimum box sounds worse than an OK woofer in an optimum box, maybe you can tell us what you have now for an enclosure? I checked out the pics and can't quite tell... looks like a single 10" Or is that a 12"?

And how do you have non-bassy bass?

MarbleGT

(speaker is a 10" L7 4ohm) i have the smallest available non ported box. i think its around 1 cubic foot. as far as non bassy bass, i want somthing very tight and punchy, no boomy and loose. Does that makes sense?

elduderino

Well, according to the L7 OM on the Kicker website, you actually have the LARGEST non-ported box - .66 cf sealed to 1.0 cf sealed.

I think that one problem is that a single 10 is just not going to hit that hard in that car. I think there are better-sounding tens, but I don't think that you'll get a HUGE difference in output.

I suspect you'll end up going to either two tens or one 12 or two 12s... because 1 10 can only move so much air.

MarbleGT

thanx for your input, do you have any suggestions?

acuratsx03

whats your budget looking like?

Bass Mechanic

a couple JL 10's would do some justice

MarbleGT

i would spend 500-700 bucks. Keep in mind my amp only pushes around 500-600 watts, i didnt really want to upgrade either.

ResidualFreedom

OH MY GOD!!!!! You will not believe what I found!!!

2 concept PT-12's with a Memphis Amp brand new for 550!!

If you want a little bass completely overlook this comment.. if you want some of the loudest bass you've ever heard (seriously no joke) take a look at these...

Go to ebay dot com and search for " Concept " in the car audio section... there is only about 30 listings now... it is listed under " 2 12" New Concept Woofers And 2500 Watt Digital Amp "

Anyone who knows about speakers can take one look at the 30lb magnet on these 12inches and tell you they are seriously no freakin joke!!

ou sig

those are really not necessary, and you are going to add like 80 lbs to your trunk...but, like elduderino said, your 1 10 just isnt moving enough air for what you want. Its hard to get a real punchy bass out of a sub in a trunk.

AcuraX2

I have a single 10" Diamond TDX sub in a ported enclosure. It sounds awesome. All the bass I would ever need but, more important, nice and tight. The 10" IDMAX would be another single 10 that might fit the bill. Also, a 10W7 from JL. All of these would work great if they are put in the correct enclosure, which is just as important if not more so, than the sub itself.

slo007

I have a JL 12", and I really like it.

elduderino

Hey, residual freedom, what happened to your "Official Vendor" tag?

Bass Mechanic, where are you?

ou sig makes a good point... As BM has said in the past, a lot of your experience of bass comes from the lower end of your F mids. If your midbass sucks it hurts your overall bass experience. WHile I think that 1 10 is limited, perhaps better F door midbass and installation could help a lot too?

brianlin87

iTrader: (1)

I have a 12JLW7 in a custom sealed enclosure and it sounds awesome

enclosure has more to do w/ sound than sub will ever.

^ and i agree fully w/ elduderino w/ the midbass hindering your 'overall experience' if it's not good quality

ou sig

F Door midbass would be great, but there really isnt much room to put a quality midbass driver (and an enclosure) up front with a set of components - our doors really dont have much room to work with, or the leg area up front.

elduderino

Yes, kick-panels or enclosures are out in these Acuras without fearful mods, but we don't know WHAT he has at the moment fopr F mids (stock?) - possibly it can get a LOT better without going to competition-style enclosures. Certainly applying sound deadening within the door and using a spacer to mate up to the back of the door can help a great deal, as can lowering the xover point for the F speakers if they can take it.

Do what you can, not what you should... : )

dubcnea

stay away from 12" subs if you want nice tight bass. not that there aren't 12's that aren't smooth, but you will pay for them. if you want good bass, go with multiple 10's. they can be loud if you want, but most important is that they will hit tight and fast. the bigger the sub, the slower the reflex. which is why most 15's just pound the hell out of any trunk, etc. but sound like all bass all the time. just my

ResidualFreedom

Advertizing rates tripled as of Feb 1st.... It was fun while it lasted.. however from a business stand-point it is too expensive for the winter hibernation months.

www.ShowShine.ca is still up and running however I am currently getting the site redesigned, and I am taking full ownership... If anyone needs anything feel free to contact me, but due to the "laws" here, I cannot discuss my product prices or offer my services in a thread..

and Ou sig.... read what I wrote above the picute of the 12's... this is by no means an amature system and if he is looking for a little bass "over look this comment" (was what I posted).. These subs would give absolute stupid bass... alot of bass or extreame bass would be an understatement..

Bu the way, I'm puttin in two of those speakers....but 15's!!! I know most of you know, I'm just super stoked!!! I can't wait!!

ou sig

that is actually totally wrong, that thought has been spread all around, but it really isnt the case. the only reason why you think 15's are all "bass" is because they do play lower, and most people put them in a ported box that is tuned low, but in a sealed box with good power - they can be just as punchy as multiple 10's. same thing for the 12's...

10's by nature (most 10's, not all) dont play their full output at the lower frequencies (>40hz), so they sound loudest in the "middle/low bass" aka. the punchy bass.

long story short...the enclosure means very much to what kind of bass/output you will get from your subs.

elduderino - add what you want!! haha; this is just what makes sense to me, and from what I have heard and seen

oh and RF - ya those subs are great, and your system will pound hardcore! good luck with it

VeeralS05

I suggest JL for clarity and thump. You should be fine w/ a W6. I know the 8inch W7 sounds like a damn 15. But one 13.5W6...every buck is worth the bang!!

dubcnea

well that makes sense, and goes along with what i'm saying. the bigger speaker playing the lower frequency. he likes the punchy bass, so i think multiple 10's would fit his liking better. i know the box has almost everything to do with it, i never touched on the box stuff.

Bass Mechanic

ive said it before and ill say it again, the size of the sub has nothing to do with how "punchy" it is
the only advantages of larger subs is SPL and in sealed applications they play lower, however if you build a ported box you can get an 8" sub to play as low as a 15" sub just with less SPL/
if i actually get around to building a box for the TSX this weekend it will be a ported 10. i can easily get the bass of a 12" sub or better with one of my own 10's

slo007

I disagree. My 12" is very clean and punchy. I think if you adjust the amp settings right and use a good box, a good sub will sound really nice.

Tsx536

Hey BM, what kind of box are you building?
Is it one of those stealth corner boxes that people have been interested in for the TSX?
Or, do you finally have time to hook yourself up with a system now?

dubcnea

i stand thoroughly corrected.

Bass Mechanic

another weekend slipped through my fingers, i ended up installing a remote start alarm for a guy that drove down from denver. i made 300 bux though selling him a new Autopage RS855 LCD and install.
anyway i think ill watch the superbowl today since the weekend is pretty much over.
but if i get to it next weekend.

as for the type of box, i was just going to make a simple box. if i had the time and enough people willing to buy one i would make a stealth box. im sure people would pay 4-500 a peice for them. but it would require me making a mold out of gelcoat and mass producing them. your talking about a lot of time and effort to make for others. 1 time is enough for me.
besides ill be trading the car in another 1.5 years because i lease my cars.
the car payment gets written off every month as taxable expense so it doesnt make a lot of sence to buy cars for me.
i can't see the point of going through that amount of effort just for a year+ of enjoymant. my next car may be a TSX but who knows i may spring for the TL. all i know is ill never buy another acura the first year it comes out.

2 times now i have bought a new acura (2001 TL) and 2004 TSX. in both cases the very next production year there were significant upgrades to the car i wished the car i had bought would have included.
the 2002 TL came with the TYPE S package. somthing i was torn between getting a CL-S and wished they had a TL-S. i ended up with the TL non type s that year.
now the 2005 TSX has XM integrated along with a few other goodies. knowing my luck they will come out with a 240 HP version next year and ill be pissed again.

anyway sorry for the rant.