Alpine Type S Speaker Upgrade

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Mar 5, 2008 | 02:30 PM
  #121  
Quote: I replaced the front and rear doors and the 6x9's with the Type-S this weekend. I took these pictures for those who haven't done theirs yet, or who want to see how these speakers fit.

For the Type-S, you can use the mounting bracket that comes with the speakers. The bracket is 1/4 inch. I drilled holes in the doors to attach the bracket. The third pic below is from inside the door. The screw is 1 1/2 inch, so the screw protrudes a little over 1 inch into the door. - so the Type-S fit with no problem.

And BTW, the sound is much, much better than stock







Can't see the pictures.
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Mar 6, 2008 | 11:50 AM
  #122  
Quote: Can't see the pictures.
ditto. Anyone have them archived. Can you repost meteorman?
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Mar 7, 2008 | 02:46 PM
  #123  
I put in the Alpine SPS-17C2's last weekend and they fit in the speakers slots without a problem. You just have to drill new holes to mount the brackets that come with the speakers. I bought my set of 4 from crutchfield.com for $100 shipped and they provide step by step instruction with pictures on how to remove door panels.
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Apr 2, 2008 | 12:58 PM
  #124  
i just purchased a set of type s 6x9 for my tsx. does it require any drilling for the mounting holes or does it just fit right into the stock holes?
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Jun 18, 2008 | 06:32 PM
  #125  
Quote: i just purchased a set of type s 6x9 for my tsx. does it require any drilling for the mounting holes or does it just fit right into the stock holes?
I didn't have any problem with that in my European Accord, holes were the same. But the plastic adapters that came with the SPS-690C were to thick, with them the speaker cover just did not fit any more. I resolved it using dynamat between speaker an shelf.

Thanks again for this brilliant thread, I have just now completed with the front and rear door speakers. A wast improvement, comparing to factory ones

It puzzles me a bit that some of you have used the Alpine 1/4" spacers. I needed the double for the magnet to go free. So I used 2 spacers per speaker in back door and ordered 1/2" spacers for the front ones.

Still left to do the tweeter part but it's difficult to find information on that. Any hints? For example, has anybody mounted the SPS-1005?
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Jul 3, 2008 | 02:09 PM
  #126  
Quote: Still left to do the tweeter part but it's difficult to find information on that. Any hints? For example, has anybody mounted the SPS-1005?
I replaced my front door speakers and tweeters a while ago with type-s. I got the ones that have separate tweets, forgot the part#. The speakers went in the door well with the factory bracket, I didnt screw anything, just dynamat'd it to the door. Havent pulled the dorr apart to check it, but nothing rattles so I assume its good lol.

The tweets were a little PIA but they fit nicely in the stock holes. The stock wires are REALLY short. Thats the only reason it was hard. here is only about an inch or 2 of slack on those wires. It was a while ago but I remember it sucking pretty hard.

I still havent gotten to replacing the rear door speakers yet. I have another set os type-s 2 ways sitting in the box, but they didnt come with brackets so I didnt attempt it yet. Anyone know where I can get the brackets that came with the other type-s speakers?
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Jul 8, 2008 | 02:19 PM
  #127  
That would be the SPS-171A or SPS17C3 kit. Judging by photos I've seen, I think it includes the very same SPS-1005 tweeters.

I ordered tailor-made 1/2" adapters from MJM Auto Innovations in e-bay. Not very cheap, but good fit.
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Nov 19, 2008 | 12:17 AM
  #128  
Alpine SPS-69C2 ... will these fit my 6x9 space? or should I go with something else?
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Nov 19, 2008 | 11:35 AM
  #129  
Quote: Alpine SPS-69C2 ... will these fit my 6x9 space? or should I go with something else?
They'll fit just fine (without the grills of coruse). If you're using the stock factory amp, these are an economical and subtle upgrade in bass. If you're using and aftermarket amp, definitely go for a speaker that's a little more expensive and can handle more power.
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Nov 19, 2008 | 03:23 PM
  #130  
those are so sick
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Nov 20, 2008 | 12:36 AM
  #131  
Quote: They'll fit just fine (without the grills of coruse). If you're using the stock factory amp, these are an economical and subtle upgrade in bass. If you're using and aftermarket amp, definitely go for a speaker that's a little more expensive and can handle more power.
Thanks, I'm going to use the stock amp because I don't want to go too crazy tearing things apart but im definitely dissatisfied with the sound quality in the car.

Anyone have any other suggestions besides the SPS 170A's in the front for the stock amp? Those are hard to find ... I've only seen one on ebay and theyre discontinued on crutchfield.
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Dec 2, 2008 | 12:58 PM
  #132  
http://www.polkaudio.com/caraudio/pr...eakers/mmc650/

Anyone know how these polk speakers will fit / sound? Should I take the tweeters off regardless if I'm going to use them?

Response will be appreciated, thanks.
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Dec 2, 2008 | 01:10 PM
  #133  
I have the component version (MMC5250 and MMC6500) and they sound great... I'm pretty sure you can get them at crutchfield.com for like $130 right now... If you're going to get them, though, you better have an amp to push them with... These things are power hungery... I'm feeding mine 98 watts rms (their rated at 100rms) and they eat it up... I need to add a bigger bass amp to keep up with these things...
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Dec 2, 2008 | 01:15 PM
  #134  
ya theyre only 70 at crutchfield at the moment so thats why I'm considering them but I really don't want to change the stock amp or anything like that. The site says theyre rated at 80 watts RMS which is still too much for the stock amp I assume.
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Dec 2, 2008 | 01:19 PM
  #135  
Quote: I have the component version (MMC5250 and MMC6500) and they sound great... I'm pretty sure you can get them at crutchfield.com for like $130 right now... If you're going to get them, though, you better have an amp to push them with... These things are power hungery... I'm feeding mine 98 watts rms (their rated at 100rms) and they eat it up... I need to add a bigger bass amp to keep up with these things...
Thanks for the response, how did the speakers fit btw?
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Dec 2, 2008 | 01:19 PM
  #136  
Unless you have one hell of a stock amp, yes... I'd just pick up an external amp for them (either set)... I've heard good things about the Alpine PDX series amps (if you can afford one) and one of those would allow for a pretty stealth install...

The speakers fit great... The front doors were a little deep, but the rears are awesome...
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Dec 4, 2008 | 01:23 AM
  #137  
I wanna get Pioneers !
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Mar 1, 2009 | 09:28 PM
  #138  
So, I wanted to replace just the door speakers and take out the 6x9's and add my JL Audio 250/1 v2 and my cdt audio 10inch woofer...i noticed the alpine SPS-170A 6.5 coaxials are discontinued, i dont want to modify the door in any way, i want to just unscrew the oem speakers and add aftermarket, can anyone point me in the right direction to speakers that fit our doors without modification, doesnt really have to be Alpine..
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Mar 1, 2009 | 09:50 PM
  #139  
Quote: So, I wanted to replace just the door speakers and take out the 6x9's and add my JL Audio 250/1 v2 and my cdt audio 10inch woofer...i noticed the alpine SPS-170A 6.5 coaxials are discontinued, i dont want to modify the door in any way, i want to just unscrew the oem speakers and add aftermarket, can anyone point me in the right direction to speakers that fit our doors without modification, doesnt really have to be Alpine..
crutchfield.com, and click outfit my car... They'll tell you what fits and what doesn't...
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Mar 1, 2009 | 10:08 PM
  #140  
Quote: So, I wanted to replace just the door speakers and take out the 6x9's and add my JL Audio 250/1 v2 and my cdt audio 10inch woofer...i noticed the alpine SPS-170A 6.5 coaxials are discontinued, i dont want to modify the door in any way, i want to just unscrew the oem speakers and add aftermarket, can anyone point me in the right direction to speakers that fit our doors without modification, doesnt really have to be Alpine..
You should be OK with most 6.5" with the right spacer. I put in Infiniti 6012i (now 6022i) and I love them. One of the best upgrades I did.
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Mar 2, 2009 | 11:44 AM
  #141  
Will the 6022i work or will we need the 6022si for shallow mounting? And what spacers did you use with them, and where can they be purchased? I'm thinking of going with these as I can do all four for about $160 from Crutchfield (not sure about local yet.)

Also, does anybody know what's the deepest mounting depth you can use for the 6x9's? I was looking at doing a set of Infinity Kappa 692.9i's, but they're 3 5/16" deep vs 3 1/16" for the Reference 9622i's. So, does anybody know if they'll fit?
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Mar 2, 2009 | 09:18 PM
  #142  
If I'm reading correctly, the rear deck 6x9's only receive low frequency, I would like to keep mine, but if they are only used for woofers, my cdt audio 10inch should provide enough low range, if there was a way to have them receive a full signal, I would love to replace those with aftermarket also...
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Mar 2, 2009 | 10:56 PM
  #143  
Quote: Will the 6022i work or will we need the 6022si for shallow mounting? And what spacers did you use with them, and where can they be purchased? I'm thinking of going with these as I can do all four for about $160 from Crutchfield (not sure about local yet.)
Everything I did is on post #114 page 3. Spacers and cables, links provided. I didn't need any special shallow mounting speakers - the 6012's fit just fine with the right spacers.
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Jan 15, 2010 | 10:58 AM
  #144  
I just finished installing Alpine SPS-600c (components) up front and SPS-600 (2-ways) in the rear doors and I also covered all 4 doors in dynamat. It is amazing how much better all of my music sounds compared to stock.

My only complaint is that the tweeters seem to give off too high of a frequency. While the are far more clear than the stock ones, the high pitch noise they emmit for some cymbals and such is far too harsh. I connected them to the stock tweeter wiring like was suggested in an earlier post.

Is anyone else having this problem?
Is there a way to fix this other than connecting them directly to the crossover on the main speaker?
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Feb 26, 2010 | 01:13 PM
  #145  
When you installed the SPS-600C up front, how did you connect up the mid range woofer in the front door? The terminals on the woofer seems to be going through an inline crossover unit. Did you use the terminals with the built-in Alpine crossover, or solder the speaker wires directly to the terminal before the crossover unit?
Quote: I just finished installing Alpine SPS-600c (components) up front and SPS-600 (2-ways) in the rear doors and I also covered all 4 doors in dynamat. It is amazing how much better all of my music sounds compared to stock.

My only complaint is that the tweeters seem to give off too high of a frequency. While the are far more clear than the stock ones, the high pitch noise they emmit for some cymbals and such is far too harsh. I connected them to the stock tweeter wiring like was suggested in an earlier post.

Is anyone else having this problem?
Is there a way to fix this other than connecting them directly to the crossover on the main speaker?
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Feb 26, 2010 | 06:13 PM
  #146  
I haven't read all the posts....but FYI Alpine in releasing a new Type S subs in the next couple months with the same specs and will need 1/2 the room/depth to mount it,
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Feb 26, 2010 | 08:48 PM
  #147  
Sorry I made a mistake Alpine is releasing new Type R subs
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Feb 26, 2010 | 09:11 PM
  #148  
Quote: I just finished installing Alpine SPS-600c (components) up front and SPS-600 (2-ways) in the rear doors and I also covered all 4 doors in dynamat. It is amazing how much better all of my music sounds compared to stock.

My only complaint is that the tweeters seem to give off too high of a frequency. While the are far more clear than the stock ones, the high pitch noise they emmit for some cymbals and such is far too harsh. I connected them to the stock tweeter wiring like was suggested in an earlier post.

Is anyone else having this problem?
Is there a way to fix this other than connecting them directly to the crossover on the main speaker?

Your tweeters might work a little better if you use the xovers that they came with. Just connect the xover to the factory door speaker wire and connect the driver and tweeter to the xover. Don’t use the factory tweeter wires. See how that sounds.

Another approach is to add an inline cap to the factory tweeter wire. This will raise the xover point to the tweeter.

The best way is to install a good amp and ditch the factory amp.

Jeff
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Apr 6, 2010 | 01:50 PM
  #149  
Quote: Your tweeters might work a little better if you use the xovers that they came with. Just connect the xover to the factory door speaker wire and connect the driver and tweeter to the xover. Don’t use the factory tweeter wires. See how that sounds.

Another approach is to add an inline cap to the factory tweeter wire. This will raise the xover point to the tweeter.

The best way is to install a good amp and ditch the factory amp.

Jeff

Thanks Jeff,

I have given the tweeters a little time to break in and they now sound slightly better. I plan on rewiring them when I install a 10-inch sub and amp in the near future.

They're good enough for now. It seems that I am the only one who notices the issue, but I look forward to doing it the right way soon.

I highly recommend that everyone upgrade their system, its not hard to do and the improvements are dramatic (especially when done correctly).
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Apr 11, 2010 | 11:46 PM
  #150  
Quote: That would be the SPS-171A or SPS17C3 kit. Judging by photos I've seen, I think it includes the very same SPS-1005 tweeters.

I ordered tailor-made 1/2" adapters from MJM Auto Innovations in e-bay. Not very cheap, but good fit.
Has anyone else ordered from this seller? Hes the only one on eBay selling the speaker adapters for TSXs. I'm trying to install some Type-R components so I need them, just wanted to check if other members have had success with the seller.
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Apr 12, 2010 | 08:30 AM
  #151  
Quote: Has anyone else ordered from this seller? Hes the only one on eBay selling the speaker adapters for TSXs. I'm trying to install some Type-R components so I need them, just wanted to check if other members have had success with the seller.
I ordered from this seller, the adapters fit perfect, here's a pic of my Type S in one of his adapters for my 4Runner.

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Apr 13, 2010 | 08:44 AM
  #152  
97BlackAckCL: thanks, I feel more comfortable buying from him now
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Apr 13, 2010 | 07:28 PM
  #153  
I should of asked this a long time ago, for the 1st gen TSX, are the front and rear door speakers the exact same? I mean the size of the speakers/brackets themselves and the space on the door. I got to remove the front door trimming this weekend but didn't get to the rear door(s), thanks.
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Apr 14, 2010 | 01:59 AM
  #154  
yes. rear doors actually have more clearance. The window doesn't get to the area where the magnet would otherwise hit
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Apr 15, 2010 | 07:23 AM
  #155  
Does anyone happen to know the maximum mounting depth of the front door 6 1/2's? Reason I ask is that I auditioned a pretty impressive component set yesterday, but the mounting depth on the 6 1/2 is 3.14" (80mm). Somehow I don't think that's gonna happen and still allow me to roll the windows all the way down. I will be using 1/2" spacers.

http://www.hertzaudiovideo.com/Doc/pdf_mlk165.pdf
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Apr 15, 2010 | 07:40 AM
  #156  
Quote: Does anyone happen to know the maximum mounting depth of the front door 6 1/2's?...
From post 114 and the Infinity Reference 6012i w/ a spacer, their listed depth is 2 1/16" (53mm) [6012si (shallow) is 1 15/16" (50mm)], so I'd say no way you'll get a speaker with a 3"+ depth in the doors.

Jeff
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Apr 15, 2010 | 08:09 AM
  #157  
I know you can go deeper than the 6012i's. Somebody in another thread has a set of Polk MM6501's and their mounting depth is listed at 2 9/16". I know that 3"+ is just a pipe dream, but I want to make sure before I discount them completely. Also, given the recent price drop of the Infinity Kappa 62.9i's they're starting to look really good. Mounting depth is listed at 2 5/16" for them.
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Apr 15, 2010 | 10:36 AM
  #158  
thank you wong, I will be installing all type-Rs in my car by next weekend, cant wait
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Apr 15, 2010 | 04:29 PM
  #159  
Quote: Does anyone happen to know the maximum mounting depth of the front door 6 1/2's? Reason I ask is that I auditioned a pretty impressive component set yesterday, but the mounting depth on the 6 1/2 is 3.14" (80mm). Somehow I don't think that's gonna happen and still allow me to roll the windows all the way down. I will be using 1/2" spacers.

http://www.hertzaudiovideo.com/Doc/pdf_mlk165.pdf
I have the hertz hsk (73mm mounting depth) mounted on my front doors with a 3/4" MDF spacer. You could make it with a 3/4" spacer + a little molding beneath it to give it a few extra mm? I think its possible...
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Apr 15, 2010 | 06:01 PM
  #160  
I found an old note from when I did my system that says 2.14 inches “Hit the Glass”. I think it was from the outside of the door skin (where the speaker sits). I would say a 1 ¼ inch spacer and you will have to trim the ring on the door panel.
Jeff
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