Integra 2023 Acura Integra Trim Levels
03-16-2022, 12:24 PM
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Wait and see! There is no big fail, people think Integra was NSX 
Integra was always a Civic based car with some minim updates and handled well. If ILX was outselling A3, 2 series and A Class, then this new design will be even more successful. What was ILX's key to success? Price. It was significantly more expensive than Civic but much lower than its German competitors. The issue is most people don't know Integra and just like to comment. Watch this and you will learn everything about Integra in less than 15 minutes.
Integra was always a Civic based car with some minim updates and handled well. If ILX was outselling A3, 2 series and A Class, then this new design will be even more successful. What was ILX's key to success? Price. It was significantly more expensive than Civic but much lower than its German competitors. The issue is most people don't know Integra and just like to comment. Watch this and you will learn everything about Integra in less than 15 minutes.
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03-16-2022, 12:47 PM
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You got it right that the ILX sold on price, but the real-world price wasn't significantly more expensive than the Civic. Pre-pandemic, they were going for well under invoice with the additional cash that was being put on the hood. Dealerships were offering them at $2K under invoice without any haggling, and some folks have been able to get $3K or more under invoice. You could pick up an ILX Tech for less than the cost of a Civic Touring since Honda dealerships haven't been budging much on pricing for those cars.
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03-16-2022, 12:54 PM
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I'm sure Acura knows this as well, which is why they knew they had to ditch the ILX nameplate before moving back upmarket with what is now the Integra. Probably the same reason they didn't bring the CDX over to North America...it's got the same problem as the ILX which is the ride feels not much different from the economy car it's based on. They might sell a bunch of these cars, but whether theose customers will actually com back to Acura once the jig is up...I don't know.
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04-21-2022, 12:12 AM
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Wait and see! There is no big fail, people think Integra was NSX
Integra was always a Civic based car with some minim updates and handled well. If ILX was outselling A3, 2 series and A Class, then this new design will be even more successful. What was ILX's key to success? Price. It was significantly more expensive than Civic but much lower than its German competitors. The issue is most people don't know Integra and just like to comment. Watch this and you will learn everything about Integra in less than 15 minutes.
Last but not least, check who is driving the new Integra when Acura first revealed it last week: a young (<30 year) old guy. As AOA says, this is Acura's way to attract young people to the brand and then once they have better job or family, they switch to either TLX, RDX or MDX.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE0vuxZhiVA
Integra was always a Civic based car with some minim updates and handled well. If ILX was outselling A3, 2 series and A Class, then this new design will be even more successful. What was ILX's key to success? Price. It was significantly more expensive than Civic but much lower than its German competitors. The issue is most people don't know Integra and just like to comment. Watch this and you will learn everything about Integra in less than 15 minutes.
Last but not least, check who is driving the new Integra when Acura first revealed it last week: a young (<30 year) old guy. As AOA says, this is Acura's way to attract young people to the brand and then once they have better job or family, they switch to either TLX, RDX or MDX.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE0vuxZhiVA
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04-21-2022, 08:22 AM
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+1, wife's 2017 CR-V has ~70k miles on it. I drive it a fair amount and it's a nice CV-T, daughter also has a 2016 Civic (same CVT). The CVT's are OK, I still would rather have a geared AT but overall been OK with the latest gen Honda CVT's. Curious is they'll make it to 200K without new bands. 
04-21-2022, 01:25 PM
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Honda's CVT doesn't feel like CVT. I am not worried about CVT at all. If the new Integra drives as good as Si, Acura is a winner! As mentioned above, the design is THE BEST (not one of the best) in the segment. It beats A3, 2 Series and CLA. Interior is simple but classy and looks upscale. It will attract young buyers and true enthusiasts...just to be clear, not the "TRUE ENTHUSIASTS" of AZ. The AZ ones are TRUE, TRUE and TRUE Enthusiasts that no one can compete with them
04-23-2022, 04:46 PM
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LOL. Very knowledgeable but perhaps somewhat allergic to Acura products. However, I do recall that some folks here were disappointed the second gen TLX was not a hatch and would have seriously considered it otherwise.
04-23-2022, 05:44 PM
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Really? The TL/TLX has always been a sedan exclusively. What made them think they were going to just randomly make a hatch? Did they think they were going to make a TLX coupe too?
04-23-2022, 07:50 PM
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acura should bring the rlx back as a sports coupe sedan with a hitch similar to the a7 but with a tlx design language.
04-23-2022, 08:33 PM
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04-24-2022, 03:19 AM
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I agree with you. There's a group here that profess to be old Acura enthusiasts but won't buy their current vehicles for one reason or another, such as the example I cited.....which of course is their right. Some day, hell will freeze over and Acura will make their dream vehicle.
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04-24-2022, 02:41 PM
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I agree with you. There's a group here that profess to be old Acura enthusiasts but won't buy their current vehicles for one reason or another, such as the example I cited.....which of course is their right. Some day, hell will freeze over and Acura will make their dream vehicle.
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04-25-2022, 02:51 PM
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I agree with you. There's a group here that profess to be old Acura enthusiasts but won't buy their current vehicles for one reason or another, such as the example I cited.....which of course is their right. Some day, hell will freeze over and Acura will make their dream vehicle.
04-26-2022, 11:02 AM
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It wasn't an unreasonable thought, as it was competing against the Stinger, the A5, crossovers and SUVs, and more coupe-like designs. And who would have thought that the Integra would be released as a hatchback? It's a smart move and the TLX could have been a nice one.
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04-26-2022, 06:52 PM
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04-26-2022, 07:16 PM
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For 2-doors, sure, but only the first gen had a 4-door (5-door?) hatch/liftback. For both the 2nd and 3rd gen, the 4-door was a sedan, and there was no 4-door 4th gen.
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04-26-2022, 07:53 PM
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04-26-2022, 08:48 PM
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The origin of the discussion was that people “were surprised that the new Integra was a hatchback”. I responded by saying that the main body style has always been the hatchback, which outsold the sedan variant, hence why they only made the DC as a hatchback. Would people be surprised if a new S2000 was a convertible?
What are we discussing? If there was such thing as a previous Integra hatchback?
What are we discussing? If there was such thing as a previous Integra hatchback?
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04-26-2022, 10:32 PM
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The origin of the discussion was that people “were surprised that the new Integra was a hatchback”. I responded by saying that the main body style has always been the hatchback, which outsold the sedan variant, hence why they only made the DC as a hatchback. Would people be surprised if a new S2000 was a convertible?
What are we discussing? If there was such thing as a previous Integra hatchback?
What are we discussing? If there was such thing as a previous Integra hatchback?
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04-27-2022, 06:49 PM
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And the model it's replacing, the ILX, was not a hatchback. And the Civic's main model is not a hatchback. And the TLX is not a hatchback. So yes taking all of these factors into the equation I was surprised to see the new Integra being released as a four door hatchback vs a regular sedan.
04-28-2022, 12:13 PM
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The pricing is out:: Integra pricing to start at $30,800 and goes up to $35,800!
Well done Acura!
https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases...cing-announced
Well done Acura!
https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases...cing-announced
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04-28-2022, 12:18 PM
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Integra vs the Competitions:
Audi A3 starts at $35K
MB CLA starts at $34K
BMW 2 Series starts at $36K
So where the the main competitions start their base model, Acura gives us the top trim Integra. So if Acura comes with Type S with $40K cost, would be still cheaper and competitive! Bring it on Acura.
Audi A3 starts at $35K
MB CLA starts at $34K
BMW 2 Series starts at $36K
So where the the main competitions start their base model, Acura gives us the top trim Integra. So if Acura comes with Type S with $40K cost, would be still cheaper and competitive! Bring it on Acura.
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04-28-2022, 01:43 PM
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I imagine the dealer is doing the same thing most (but apparently not all) folks have been doing with regards to pricing; looking at the delta between the ILX A-Spec+Tech ($6K), and adding that to the $30K estimate Acura provided for the base model.
I suspect what Acura is doing is trying to capture all the hardcore enthusiasts who really wants a 6MT Integra by selling them the more profitable top trim models, and then once they have that, release the CTR and ITS, and once sales of the 6MT falls off the face of the earth by the mid cycle refresh, either also make it available on the base models (optimistic) or kill the option entirely (pessimistic). Unfortunately, I think it'll be the latter.
I suspect what Acura is doing is trying to capture all the hardcore enthusiasts who really wants a 6MT Integra by selling them the more profitable top trim models, and then once they have that, release the CTR and ITS, and once sales of the 6MT falls off the face of the earth by the mid cycle refresh, either also make it available on the base models (optimistic) or kill the option entirely (pessimistic). Unfortunately, I think it'll be the latter.
. While I'm at it, I'm gonna double down on my +$6K estimate for the ITS to sticker at $42K.Especially once factoring in the inevitable markups, this car is going to be pushing $45K out the door. The amount of enthusiasts willing to fork over that much for a FWD 200HP 1.5T is going to be tight. It's a bummer the 6MT is only offered with the top trim, but thems the way Honda positions their offerings I suppose.
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04-28-2022, 11:15 PM
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Especially once factoring in the inevitable markups, this car is going to be pushing $45K out the door. The amount of enthusiasts willing to fork over that much for a FWD 200HP 1.5T is going to be tight.
I believe you are referencing a Type S that will presumably turn out more than 200 hp.
I believe you are referencing a Type S that will presumably turn out more than 200 hp.
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04-28-2022, 11:51 PM
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Especially once factoring in the inevitable markups, this car is going to be pushing $45K out the door. The amount of enthusiasts willing to fork over that much for a FWD 200HP 1.5T is going to be tight.
I believe you are referencing a Type S that will presumably turn out more than 200 hp.
I believe you are referencing a Type S that will presumably turn out more than 200 hp.
04-29-2022, 08:10 AM
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The Integra has never been a monolithic platform so there was no "main body style", it debuted as a 3 or 5 door hatch for the 1st generation, then 3 door hatch and 4 door sedan for 2nd and 3rd generations, and only a 3 door hatch for the RSX (still Honda Integra in Japan) which went with the 2000's letter designation to promote the Acura brand over model nomenclature.
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04-29-2022, 11:22 AM
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And the model it's replacing, the ILX, was not a hatchback. And the Civic's main model is not a hatchback. And the TLX is not a hatchback. So yes taking all of these factors into the equation I was surprised to see the new Integra being released as a four door hatchback vs a regular sedan.
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05-04-2022, 08:22 AM
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Agreed! I think Acura will shift to 1-2 Sedan which will be EV. Sadly, demand for SUV and EV are not allowing the manufactures to invest in Sedans like TLX.
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05-06-2022, 10:03 AM
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Looking forward to seeing one "in the metal." I just hope they are available in meaningful numbers.
We were going to test drive a Civic SI a few weeks ago to sample the powertrain, which the Integra will share. Not a single one available to drive within 100 miles!
We were going to test drive a Civic SI a few weeks ago to sample the powertrain, which the Integra will share. Not a single one available to drive within 100 miles!
05-06-2022, 12:13 PM
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That's correct. My brother ordered a RDX for his wife and there was no test drive. He ordered the car and the dealer said, if you don't want it. Just cancel the order when the car arrives. They have customers ready to buy. The world is upside down man!
05-06-2022, 02:55 PM
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As mentioned above, the design is THE BEST (not one of the best) in the segment. It beats A3, 2 Series and CLA. Interior is simple but classy and looks upscale. It will attract young buyers and true enthusiasts...just to be clear, not the "TRUE ENTHUSIASTS" of AZ. The AZ ones are TRUE, TRUE and TRUE Enthusiasts that no one can compete with them
Very knowledgeable but perhaps somewhat allergic to Acura products. However, I do recall that some folks here were disappointed the second gen TLX was not a hatch and would have seriously considered it otherwise.
Ahh, the “diehard longtime Acura fans” of when Acura “used to make true sports cars”. What kind of sports cars? The TSX, CL, legend, or the RSX without an LSD.
Oh ya! That group is so unique that even if Acura comes up with 450HP sedan at a cost of $40K, they will definitely find a problem and most likely they will ask why not $35K haahahah! I have seen and heard all kind of excuses in the last 7-8 years. I can guarantee them that Acura will never make a car to please or make them happy.
Very knowledgeable but perhaps somewhat allergic to Acura products. However, I do recall that some folks here were disappointed the second gen TLX was not a hatch and would have seriously considered it otherwise.
Ahh, the “diehard longtime Acura fans” of when Acura “used to make true sports cars”. What kind of sports cars? The TSX, CL, legend, or the RSX without an LSD.
Oh ya! That group is so unique that even if Acura comes up with 450HP sedan at a cost of $40K, they will definitely find a problem and most likely they will ask why not $35K haahahah! I have seen and heard all kind of excuses in the last 7-8 years. I can guarantee them that Acura will never make a car to please or make them happy.
05-15-2022, 04:51 PM
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Full specs on the car are here. https://www.acurainfocenter.com/vehi...s-and-features
6MT A Spec Tech comes in at 3073 pounds. Not bad for being pretty well loaded.
6MT A Spec Tech comes in at 3073 pounds. Not bad for being pretty well loaded.
05-15-2022, 05:00 PM
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Full specs on the car are here. https://www.acurainfocenter.com/vehi...s-and-features
6MT A Spec Tech comes in at 3073 pounds. Not bad for being pretty well loaded.
6MT A Spec Tech comes in at 3073 pounds. Not bad for being pretty well loaded.
It is kind of funny that the TLX, which is almost 9" longer and has a wheelbase 5" longer winds up with 2" less combined legroom than the shorter Integra. The volume (CVT) models are going to be a sales hit. The only question is how many can Acura pump out, because this is easily going to beat out the A3, CLA, 228i GC in head to head comparos while undercutting them substantially.
05-16-2022, 02:22 PM
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Full specs on the car are here. https://www.acurainfocenter.com/vehi...s-and-features
6MT A Spec Tech comes in at 3073 pounds. Not bad for being pretty well loaded.
6MT A Spec Tech comes in at 3073 pounds. Not bad for being pretty well loaded.
https://hondanews.com/en-US/releases...specifications
05-16-2022, 02:50 PM
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Good find!. So 21lbs/hp for the 1G, versus about 15 lbs/hp for NewG.
We had a 91 3 door 5MT. It was sporty and responsive but not fast; it drove well and sounded great as the revs rose. And it got good mileage.
It's interesting to go back and examine the perspective of the performance of cars that were well-regarded in their time. I owned a 2G Legend Couple with 5MT, that I think did 0-60 in about 7.0-7.2 or so. It felt (and sounded) fast.
My wife's 9G Accord sedan with 2.4L and 6MT would outgun the Legend today, at least to 60 mph. Amazing.
We had a 91 3 door 5MT. It was sporty and responsive but not fast; it drove well and sounded great as the revs rose. And it got good mileage.
It's interesting to go back and examine the perspective of the performance of cars that were well-regarded in their time. I owned a 2G Legend Couple with 5MT, that I think did 0-60 in about 7.0-7.2 or so. It felt (and sounded) fast.
My wife's 9G Accord sedan with 2.4L and 6MT would outgun the Legend today, at least to 60 mph. Amazing.
05-17-2022, 01:14 PM
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I like the Integra. A little bit more expensive than the Civic but you can easily see what you are getting. For instance, the fully loaded Civic HB Touring is $30k and the fully loaded Integra A-Spec Tech is $36k.
For that $6k you get (just from the top of my head):
- Different styling
- Appearance kit
- Adaptive dampers
- Head-up Display
- One extra year of warranty
- Two-year free maintenance
- 20hp more
- ELS sound system
- Far nicer seats
- More seat adjustments
- Memory seats
For that $6k you get (just from the top of my head):
- Different styling
- Appearance kit
- Adaptive dampers
- Head-up Display
- One extra year of warranty
- Two-year free maintenance
- 20hp more
- ELS sound system
- Far nicer seats
- More seat adjustments
- Memory seats
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