capcomEF9

Yeah that black trims really makes it look bad, your photo of it made it look better than the website though lol.

I get what you saying sk, M package, A spec, blah blah they're pretty much the same. A rear diffuser might help but who's to say it's not how acura "claims" their A spec for the TL was aerodynamic? If you compare them the only difference is suspension and a rear diffuser from what you guys posted?
I dunno but I thought of oem suspensions being a bit overpriced for what you get unless the m package is a full coil over setup or something.

iamitman

So BMW claims are true, but Acura Claims are false? What is your logic? BMW can't do any wrong?

usdmJON

Acura doesn't claim the ilx aspec front lip has performance benefits. Only the tl aspec front lip is claimed to. That's my logic genius.

skd2k1

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^I haven't seen a press release regarding the ilx aspec kit, so as far as I know acura hasn't officially commented one way or the other. I would assume that the ilx aspec kit has been tested in a wind tunnel and provides a similar function to the 3g tl aspec kit.

oonowindoo

while M sport is basically what Aspec is for Acura but there are a few key differences and some of these differences are not even mentioned on the website:

Exterior: Instead of add on pieces, M sport gives you full sport front, rear bumper and side skirt. You can ONLY get staggered 225/255 in M sport RWD

Interior: M sport steering wheel, sport seats, black headliner, M shifter, SPORT gauges (shows Hp and torque) and sport lighting (Orange to white)

Performance: Sport+ only available ein Sport and M sport, M sport suspension (lower and stiffer), M sport (4 piston F, 2 Rear) Brembo brakes. M sport wheels, additional oil coolers for M sport only.

There is also the M sport accessories (Exhaust, even bigger Brembo brake M Performance Kit (35hp and 30lb of torque), Carbon fiber parts and others)

So you can say A spec and M sport are similar but BMW put a lot more than just a small add on lip kit. The difference is so big that many would not have gotten the F30 without M sport.


No one is going to drive fast enough to even feel any downforce or aero difference, if there is even any. But when offered a sport trim like V Sport, F Sport, M sport or Aspec, at least there should be something really exclusive for these trims.

V sport - it has the looks and the power!
F Sport - LFA inspired gauges
M sport - Above
A Spec - ??

usdmJON

M Sport:BMW::A-Spec:Acura except for the ILX.

A-spec up until now has meant some sort of performance extras. However the ILX gets no performance extras. EVEN IF the aero kit provides better wind tunnel results that is still HARDLY enough to equate itself to the upgrades the A-Spec TL got over the base TL.

A-Spec ILX is a slap in the face to the A-Spec badge as it has no performance features over the non A-Spec. It is more or less an ILX California... See TL California for reference.

skd2k1

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you will pay more for a bmw, so you ought to get more.

skd2k1

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I don't think it's a slap in the face. would you rather no option for front and rear aspec add-ons at all?

aspec2016

That black thing is an add on (maybe a bug shield?), I just bought a 2016 A-SPEC Premium and looks nothing like that.

usdmJON

The pre 2015 ILX has front and rear add ons as well they just didnt call them A-Spec.

Id prefer if they kept it like that. They have the ILX. Then they have the ILX add ons. End of story. No need to rebadge it as an a-spec when it doesnt live up to what the a-spec for the TL was.

usdmJON

Can I ask why you bought an A-Spec without the A-Spec kit? How much did the dealer want to charge you to put the A-Spec kit on what is supposed to be the A-Spec ILX?

Timmy18

^The 'Aspec' ILX doesn't come with the 'Aspec' kits...

It's silly.

But it's another way for them to make their money.

And I feel like the black piece was plasti dip or something the dealer came up with to look different/ more aggressive..

usdmJON

Agreed x4
It would be an interesting conversation between the sales rep and I:
Rep pulls an A-Spec out of storage...
Me: Where is the A-Spec kit?
Rep: This is the A-Spec ILX.
Me: I know but where is the A-Spec kit?
Rep: The A-Spec includes the side spoiler and rear deck spoiler.
Me: What about the A-Spec front and rear pieces?
Rep: Those cost extra. We can add them on if you'd....
Me: So you want to sell me the ILX A-Spec WITHOUT the A-Spec kit?
Rep: Well sir, the A-Spec ILX doesn't come with the full kit...
Me: So the ILX A-Spec doesn't come with the ILX A-Spec kit?
Rep:
Me:

aspec2016

Im just not a fan of the add on bumper panels. I like the wheels, rear spoiler, driving lights and interior that come with the A-Spec.

jperdoch

Can can you tell me if that is the standard rear lip spoiler or is that the one that came with the a spec kit, I'm not sure if there's a difference. Ty

visi_d

USDMJON, with you 100%. I think there never should have been an a-spec option for the ilx. I own a 2015 2.4L ILX. Having the option for the accessories to add on was perfectly fine. Acura should have left it at that and if anything came up with a type S version of the car improving the overall of the car performance and looks...kinda what the first gen had with the 2.0 vs the 2.4L (minus the looks part lol)