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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 07:05 AM
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how does the A spec suspension ride

Im a family man and my ride is our family car (no food or drinks) how does the aspec suspension ride compared to stock is it still family friendly lol

also the comptech sway bars how big of a difrence

planning on doing this in the next few weeks.

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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 08:47 AM
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sway bar won't affect your ride, at least not the compression and rebound (assuming your body is not rolling at the time). with the sway bar, I'd recommend going even bigger and getting the progress rear bar and put it on the stiff setting.

i put the a-spec suspension on a few weeks ago. it's definitely noticeable, but it's not unbearable. it feels like a factory sport suspension in the same nature as the german models. I think somebody on here posted previously that the biggest difference is in the rear and I think that's true. It really helps pitch and dive during acceleration and braking.

While overall ride and comfort isn't greatly sacrificed, initial turn-in and body roll during turns are vastly improved.

As between the sway bar and a-spec suspension, it's hard to say which made a bigger difference. I installed them at different times and months apart so my recollection of the change in cornering habits after doing the sway bar is foggy. I am confident saying that both (sway bar and suspension of some sort) are a must-have to control the floatiness that's present in this heavy car.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 11:17 PM
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thanks Ive owned all bmw's up till this 06 TL 6speed,and I will recomend A TL any day.

I am going to upgrade the suspension here soon.Thanks again
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 12:36 AM
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x2 on the Progress 24mm RSB.


They say that the A-Spec coil-overs are the stiffest OE suspension available. >>>stiffer than base and >stiffer than TL-S.

If you've got an '08 (maybe '07 as well) Base, the difference will be greater since the new base model suspension is reported to be the softest/cushiest TL suspension ever in a 3G.
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by AndrewA
sway bar won't affect your ride, at least not the compression and rebound (assuming your body is not rolling at the time). with the sway bar, I'd recommend going even bigger and getting the progress rear bar and put it on the stiff setting.

i put the a-spec suspension on a few weeks ago. it's definitely noticeable, but it's not unbearable. it feels like a factory sport suspension in the same nature as the german models. I think somebody on here posted previously that the biggest difference is in the rear and I think that's true. It really helps pitch and dive during acceleration and braking.

While overall ride and comfort isn't greatly sacrificed, initial turn-in and body roll during turns are vastly improved.

As between the sway bar and a-spec suspension, it's hard to say which made a bigger difference. I installed them at different times and months apart so my recollection of the change in cornering habits after doing the sway bar is foggy. I am confident saying that both (sway bar and suspension of some sort) are a must-have to control the floatiness that's present in this heavy car.

I'm gonna have to slightly disagree with your comment about the sway bar affecting ride quality. I too have the A-spec suspension on my TL and it rides nice, firm yet bearable. But when i later installed a Progress RSB the ride got a lot bumpier. I love the way the car handles now but the thicker sway bar causes the independant rear suspension to be less "independent". And as a result road imperfections are more easily felt. In short i recomend both but you will notice a decrease in ride quality along with your much improved handling .
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 06:34 PM
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I for one would appreciate a little more feel from a firmer suspension.

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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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Isn't the A-spec suspension designed by one of the lead designers/testers of the NSX?
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 10:01 PM
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What color is the A-Spec suspension? Trying to figure out what springs I have on this TL I just bought (springs are a dark blue).
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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What color is the A-Spec suspension? Trying to figure out what springs I have on this TL I just bought (springs are a dark blue).
I'm pretty sure it is black.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 09:27 AM
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i love the aspec suspension. it is tight, but not too rough. i think most people would not mind the ride for even long trips.

i say go for it
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 09:45 AM
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its great i love it. especially with the progress rsb its amazing.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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i have noticed some cars have an a-spec suspension but there may not be the a-spec BADGE on the vehicle. i bought my car and it came witht he full kit and i think it may have an a-spec suspension but i cant verfy this. i have an 05' 6MT but for a while i thought the suspension on the 6MT was just stiffer than the auto's from 04-06. do the auto's and 6MT have the same suspension from 04-06? anyway to verify the a-spec suspension on my car?
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by djbonsu
i have noticed some cars have an a-spec suspension but there may not be the a-spec BADGE on the vehicle. i bought my car and it came witht he full kit and i think it may have an a-spec suspension but i cant verfy this. i have an 05' 6MT but for a while i thought the suspension on the 6MT was just stiffer than the auto's from 04-06. do the auto's and 6MT have the same suspension from 04-06? anyway to verify the a-spec suspension on my car?

should be the same suspension for both stock AT and MT.

what is the gap between the body and the tire? should only be a finger or a finger and a half gap if you have the aspec springs.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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hmmm...ill have to check it out....i know the front sits a lil higher than the rear but suspensions seems pretty tight to me. i dont have the apec steering wheel tho. thanks for the info.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by djbonsu
hmmm...ill have to check it out....i know the front sits a lil higher than the rear but suspensions seems pretty tight to me. i dont have the apec steering wheel tho. thanks for the info.

bummer! i really like my steering wheel. it was weird to drive a loaner with the thinner stock wheel.

i thought the MT aspec suspension sat a little more equal between the front and the back...

i know the ATs have a tighter spring in the front to compensate for the heavier trans, but it is not an equal compensation so the front sits a little higher.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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yea, the 6MT does seems to sit a little more flush than the AT TL. damn!!...how much thicker is the a-spec sterring wheel??...lol....i thought the regular steering wheel was pretty FAT...lol
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by blkaspec
should be the same suspension for both stock AT and MT.

what is the gap between the body and the tire? should only be a finger or a finger and a half gap if you have the aspec springs.

I'm not usre they are the same. Apparently they *do* have different part numbers, but that could be a red herring.

Originally Posted by Buda
I knew it could be done but before there were like only one or two dealerships willing to do it, even on Ebay. Basically the dealership had to order the package (suspension w/ wheels) and then sell them seperately. The two main dealerships that did this before were located in a good wheel market to make if feasible. To my knowledge Acura does not "allow" separate sale of the suspension to a non-aspec registered car.

Here are the part numbers for the '04 to '06. Not sure about the '07 and '08 TL. I pulled them from my old thread on this.

Auto is: 08W60-SEP-200
Manual: 08W60-SEP-200A


For additional reading here is the link to my old thread. https://acurazine.com/forums/ramblings-12/i-need-feedback-147540/

Hey Spiritman! Good to hear from ya. Yeah I haven't been to active of a member lately until about 3 months or so ago when I helped with a meet in KC. Even then I've been more a lurker. Figured it was about time to start contributing again.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2109484


For the OP, you can look at you shock and check the part number(s) above. They should be easy to see with the tire off. That should tell you what susp you've got. If not, you can look the part number up here:

http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/...omp=List%20All
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 03:18 PM
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I've got the pictures of the A-Spec shock/spring combos on my home laptop. I'll post those later so you can see what specific part numbers to look for.
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Old Jul 22, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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A-Spec Suspension Part numbers for Non Type-S 3G TL

So the first picture confirms the numbers we've all seen around here. The 6MT suspension includes the "A" at the end of the part number. Older revisions used to be 08W60-SEP-200A. I guess they are up to 08W60-SEP-201A



For the fronts, the R and L shocks are different and the individual part numbers (though hard to make out clearly) end in E1 and F1. I don't remember which side is which. Full part numbers are: 08W60-SEP-2M00-E1 and 08W60-SEP-2M00-F1




For the rears, the R and L shocks are the same and the individual part numbers (also hard to make out clearly) end in C1. Full part numbers are: 08W60-SEP-2M01-C1

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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 09:14 AM
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maybe a dumb question but do the springs have visible part #'s??
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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you know, i never bothered to look when i installed them
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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no they dont...not on them....but they do have them on the websites that show u schematic break downs.
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