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Went to my local Kal Tire and Trail Tire (formerly Tire Warehouse) and they both had access to Fast Wheels (fastco.ca) dealer only fitment guide. I contacted Fast Wheels as I couldn't believe some 18" wheels would fit around the brake calipers on my Type-S. They told me they use a precision measurement tool and compare that against wheel dimensions in their database. Fitment is guaranteed.
Trail Tire did me a solid and brought in some wheels Fast Wheels suggested. Low and behold 18's fit! During my excitement, I forgot to take pics, but I've ordered Fast Wheel FC04 Titanium. Install is Oct 16 with Michelin X-Ice SNOW's. I'll take some pics then.
Beautiful rim! I think your car will look great when installed... just in time to see the first snow fall. We all appreciate the research that you've provided. I, too, would never have imagined that 18" rims would fit. You've just given folks another avenue to consider when thinking about an upgrade,
I had 18 in rims fitted to my type s but there's only about a millimetre space from the top of the caliper to the rim. Snow and ice will scrape the top of the caliper so i am going with 19 x 8.5.
Hey guys, I wanted to add some information to this thread - I had a set of 18” x 9.5” Volks CE28 laying around (for now) and tried to test fit them; well, needless to say they don’t fit. As mentioned above, they rub into the caliper. I did manage to squeeze them on but I definitely would not use them like this. I can only assume that the inner wheel diameters vary by manufactures.
On another note, when I removed my stock wheels and tires I noticed they’re quite heavy - anyone know the weight of the stock wheels?
According to my bathroom scale, the regular Type S wheel weighs 39.8 lbs. Have them sitting here after having the tires swapped over to the OEM Y-spokes.
Did you remove the screws since you’ll be driving in the snow and they’ll seize up over time?
The Type S’s acceleration can definitely benefit from lighter wheels. I plan on replacing my stock wheels down the line with a lighter option, granted the style will also have to fit the TLX’s appearance.
Hey guys, I wanted to add some information to this thread - I had a set of 18” x 9.5” Volks CE28 laying around (for now) and tried to test fit them; well, needless to say they don’t fit. As mentioned above, they rub into the caliper. I did manage to squeeze them on but I definitely would not use them like this. I can only assume that the inner wheel diameters vary by manufactures.
On another note, when I removed my stock wheels and tires I noticed they’re quite heavy - anyone know the weight of the stock wheels?
Unfortunately the CE28 has concave spokes, meaning the wheel spokes curve inwards at the wheel lip. The curved spoke area robs useful space needed to clear brake calipers.
On the other hand, straight spoke wheels (such as the 18" wheel OP is using) have better luck clearing the large Brembo calipers.
Did you remove the screws since you’ll be driving in the snow and they’ll seize up over time?
The Type S’s acceleration can definitely benefit from lighter wheels. I plan on replacing my stock wheels down the line with a lighter option, granted the style will also have to fit the TLX’s appearance.
Yes, I've had them seize up on a car before and required me to drill them out in order to remove the rotors.
I also used this as an opportunity to remove the rotor screws. Much easier now than years down the road when replacing the rotors.
Good plan. The rotor screws are just assembly line assists to keep the rotors in place during the build process. Would need to be drilled out after a few winters.
Hey guys, I wanted to add some information to this thread - I had a set of 18” x 9.5” Volks CE28 laying around (for now) and tried to test fit them; well, needless to say they don’t fit. As mentioned above, they rub into the caliper. I did manage to squeeze them on but I definitely would not use them like this. I can only assume that the inner wheel diameters vary by manufactures.
We ran into the same problem with a few other sets of wheels we tried. The diameter of the interior dish is different wheel to wheel, then you've got clearance of the spoke's and finally offset to take into account. I'm sure over time more tire/wheel shops will have information on what fits and doesn't.
The Art Replica's I mentioned earlier had about 5mm of space around the caliper. The FC04's I'm purchasing have about 3-4mm.
I was going to either try selling the regular Type S wheels or keeping them as a winter wheel. I figured I might as well just get some decent winter tires and call it a day. The only other car I've used dedicated winter tires on was my 350z and it was like driving a tank, no matter how bad the weather was.
I'm thinking of going with an alternate size for winter tires on the factory 20" wheels. There are only a few options, none that I'm interested in, with the OEM size of 255/35/20. If I go down slightly to 245/35/20, there are many more available, of which I'd probably go with Michelin Pilot Alpin 5.
The tire looks like it should fit fine on the 20x9 wheel and the overall diameter is only 0.7% off from the factory. 60mph on the speedo will actually be 59.6mph. So I think that should work out.
I was looking at the Titan7 forged wheels, under the BMW specs, and looks like they may have something that will fit the Type S’ - the best part is their wheels weigh in at about 18-21lbs per wheel depending on diameter and width; that’s about half the weight of the stock wheels!
Just need to verify which offset would fit best and ensure they come in 5x120 bolt pattern.
Went to my local Kal Tire and Trail Tire (formerly Tire Warehouse) and they both had access to Fast Wheels (fastco.ca) dealer only fitment guide. I contacted Fast Wheels as I couldn't believe some 18" wheels would fit around the brake calipers on my Type-S. They told me they use a precision measurement tool and compare that against wheel dimensions in their database. Fitment is guaranteed.
Trail Tire did me a solid and brought in some wheels Fast Wheels suggested. Low and behold 18's fit! During my excitement, I forgot to take pics, but I've ordered Fast Wheel FC04 Titanium. Install is Oct 16 with Michelin X-Ice SNOW's. I'll take some pics then.
Here is the wheel.
would love to see those on the car, they are on my shiort list, only 19.4lbs in your size. Ive bought a set of Yokohama V905’s in 255/40/19 but still deciding on wheel. It will be either the fast fc04 that you selected or…
Envy FF-1
Eurodesign Legend
Advanti Torcere
All are significantly lighter the the apparently light weight NSX style wheels but the FC04 is another 4-7 pounds lighter then the rest of them. I may prefer the offset of others though. Et 45 8.5” width of the fc04 and the Torcere would actually put the wheel face 2mm more tucked in to the car, and i already feel the wheels should be more stuck out stock. The other 2 are et40 8.5” so they will stick out several mm further then stock. Tough to make decisions without actually seeing them on the car.
Ended up going with the Sottozero 3 in the factory size. Glad I did because I think anything less than a 255 tire would be stretching it a bit much on the 9" wide wheels. All set for winter now!
Purchased a set of tire totes for storing in the basement. I like being able to swap whenever the weather dictates.
Ended up going with the Sottozero 3 in the factory size. Glad I did because I think anything less than a 255 tire would be stretching it a bit much on the 9" wide wheels. All set for winter now!
Purchased a set of tire totes for storing in the basement. I like being able to swap whenever the weather dictates.
I was SOO close to pulling the trigger on the same. My local dealership quoted me somewhere around $4700 Canadian for this setup though. Wheels and tires. A little to rich for my blood.
I had the FC04's fitted again today, w/o tires. Everything clears nicely with no issue. Should be $2850 Canadian all in.
Plenty of space around the brake caliper. The Fast Wheels websites been updated. They are listing some 17's fitting as well. Based on what I see here with my 18's, 17's will fit. Just depends on the diameter of the inner dish and clearance of the spokes.
I had my winter set up installed today. Fast FC04 19x8.5 et 45 with Yokohama V905’s in 255 40 19. i was worried about the wheels clearing the calipers because the offet should have the face of the wheel around 2mm closer to the hub then stock, but the spokes are so much thinner that there is actually more space between the spokes and caliper then the oem summers.
As i mentioned in a previous post this set up is about 12-13lbs per wheel less then stock, removing 50lbs of unsprung weight, and you can tell. Asking the car to turn 188lbs of wheels instead of 240lbs is a big savings on drivetrain loss.
Ive immediatly noticed an huge difference in the car. Its soooo much more eager to get up and go and keeps pulling harder. I went for a very spirited 70km rip this evening and it was an absolute blast. The winter tires certainly dont have the same grip as the summers but the yokohamas are aimed more at performance driving then most winters and they should improve some after theyre more broken in.
I really wish i had a draggy for before and after because it is significantly quicker now. To the point that i dont know if im going to be able to put the oem summer wheels back on again in the spring.
if someone is holding off buying a type S because they cant find one with the summer tire option id suggest not worrying about it and just getting some light weight after market wheels.
At this point with 0 after market support yet, this is about the only performance mod you can do that will get noticeable results.
Ended up going with the Sottozero 3 in the factory size. Glad I did because I think anything less than a 255 tire would be stretching it a bit much on the 9" wide wheels. All set for winter now!
Purchased a set of tire totes for storing in the basement. I like being able to swap whenever the weather dictates.
I had my winter set up installed today. Fast FC04 19x8.5 et 45 with Yokohama V905’s in 255 40 19. i was worried about the wheels clearing the calipers because the offet should have the face of the wheel around 2mm closer to the hub then stock, but the spokes are so much thinner that there is actually more space between the spokes and caliper then the oem summers.
As i mentioned in a previous post this set up is about 12-13lbs per wheel less then stock, removing 50lbs of unsprung weight, and you can tell. Asking the car to turn 188lbs of wheels instead of 240lbs is a big savings on drivetrain loss.
Ive immediatly noticed an huge difference in the car. Its soooo much more eager to get up and go and keeps pulling harder. I went for a very spirited 70km rip this evening and it was an absolute blast. The winter tires certainly dont have the same grip as the summers but the yokohamas are aimed more at performance driving then most winters and they should improve some after theyre more broken in.
I really wish i had a draggy for before and after because it is significantly quicker now. To the point that i dont know if im going to be able to put the oem summer wheels back on again in the spring.
if someone is holding off buying a type S because they cant find one with the summer tire option id suggest not worrying about it and just getting some light weight after market wheels.
At this point with 0 after market support yet, this is about the only performance mod you can do that will get noticeable results.
Are these wheels the correct lug pattern? Why do the wheel lugs look completely off center?
Are these wheels the correct lug pattern? Why do the wheel lugs look completely off center?
yes they are the correct lug pattern (or else they wouldnt have gone on the lugs) manufacturers use the same wheels frequently and drill the lugs to fit. 5x120 is a wider pattern then many manufacturers use so they will be closer to the outer edge of the drillable hub area then if the same wheel was drilled to fit a 5x114.3 or a 5x105 etc.
...and yes, I'm aware one lug nut is different than the rest (drivers side front). The kit they opened was missing one. They'll have it ready at my 100km retorque.
I had my winter set up installed today. Fast FC04 19x8.5 et 45 with Yokohama V905’s in 255 40 19. i was worried about the wheels clearing the calipers because the offet should have the face of the wheel around 2mm closer to the hub then stock, but the spokes are so much thinner that there is actually more space between the spokes and caliper then the oem summers.
As i mentioned in a previous post this set up is about 12-13lbs per wheel less then stock, removing 50lbs of unsprung weight, and you can tell. Asking the car to turn 188lbs of wheels instead of 240lbs is a big savings on drivetrain loss.
Ive immediatly noticed an huge difference in the car. Its soooo much more eager to get up and go and keeps pulling harder. I went for a very spirited 70km rip this evening and it was an absolute blast. The winter tires certainly dont have the same grip as the summers but the yokohamas are aimed more at performance driving then most winters and they should improve some after theyre more broken in.
I really wish i had a draggy for before and after because it is significantly quicker now. To the point that i dont know if im going to be able to put the oem summer wheels back on again in the spring.
if someone is holding off buying a type S because they cant find one with the summer tire option id suggest not worrying about it and just getting some light weight after market wheels.
At this point with 0 after market support yet, this is about the only performance mod you can do that will get noticeable results.
would you mind taking a couple pictures from the side that shows how far back under the fender the wheel and tire sits?
I’m curious as they have this exact wheel in both the ET 45 and ET 35. I’m curious if the ET 35 would make it more flush without pushing past the fender edge.
Got my car a set of Pirelli PZero-Winter (255/35/20) snow tires last month.
To sum it up : good dry road handling performance but very noisy.
The PZero-Winter tires are indeed high performance snow tires, and they stick onto the roads well in the dry in terms of snow tire performance.
Even though I realize that snow tires tend to be noisier than summer tires, but this PZero-Winter is always very noisy in the dry. In comparison, the Michelin Alpin PA4, that I had used before on the 4G TL, was a lot quieter on dry roads, except making some whooshing noise when driven over painted crosswalks.
Too bad that the PA4 doesn't make the 255/35/20 size.
NEW MEMBER ALERT I just picked up a 22 couple days ago. I got the y spoke wheels as I like those more and was wondering what winter tires I should go with. I cant go with all seasons as my wheel and tire protection won't cover those. So at least ill have protection 8-9 months out of the year. ill eventually buy another yet of wheels but not right now. Is anyone else going this route or is majority just getting all seasons?
09-17-2021, 10:41 AM
From what I've seen online, they are about 6-7 lbs lighter.
