Trying to decide: Type S vs G70

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Old 07-29-2021, 09:27 AM
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Also the gauge cluster and this is a big one for me. While I would prefer a full digital cluster on both, the half digital half analog setup on the '22 G70 looks ultra cheap like a Nissan Versa. This is especially egregious since they have full digital options offered on the same car in other markets.
also a big one for me. I've gotten so used to the full digitial on my wife's CR-V I can't understand why the TLX was half analog gauges and half digital while the RDX/MDX both go full digital, even the new Touring Civic is full digital
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Sadly, at the rate that Acura pushes out refreshes, it probably would be another 2-3 to see all of the changes come to the tlx.
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Originally Posted by Acuraaaw
I test drove both of these cars and it would be tight but I'd lean slightly towards the G70 purely for the driving dynamics. Quick summary from the test drive

G70 3.3T Pros

Better steering, acceleration, overall performance. Interior leather and design/construction feels higher quality, better infotainment.

Type S Pros

Exterior design, nicer wheel options, better exhaust note and ELS audio.

Also the gauge cluster and this is a big one for me. While I would prefer a full digital cluster on both, the half digital half analog setup on the '22 G70 looks ultra cheap like a Nissan Versa. This is especially egregious since they have full digital options offered on the same car in other markets.
My 2021 has a full digital dash. It was a $1,000 option that all the Sport models I’ve seen were equipped with. BTW, the only mode I like is the one that makes it look analog, but a good quality analog. Maybe Texas is a “other market”
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The g70 is way more then .2 sec faster.

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I've been sitting back the last couple weeks watching all the hype about the Type S and realizing that reality isn't fully living up to the hype. I remember driving home the night I traded in my 535xi for my Acura TLX A-Spec and wondering if I had made a mistake. My BMW was bigger, faster and smoother driving than the car I was driving home in. After driving my TLX for the last couple months, I've gotta say that it doesn't really bother me that it isn't quite as fast as the competition. I would like for it to be 300 lbs lighter with another 30 hp....but the car drives just fine as it is. The same thing is going to be the case for the vast majority of Type S owners. Sure, the G70 might beat it in a race....but it's got a god awful front grill and it just doesn't like as good as the Acura. If you aren't lining up in a drag race, a Type S is plenty fast.

Every time I see the Genesis logo, I can't help but think it's a Chrysler logo and that the car is secretly a piece of junk. I like the symmetry and looks of the TLX a lot more than the G70. I never drove the G70 since the 2.0L version wasn't on my interest list and there were no 3.3L in the area at the time, but the TLX drives great. My BMW was smooth on the road, but it was kind of a whale. The TLX feels smaller and lighter in comparison and it turns and corners incredibly well for a relatively heavy car.

At the end of the day, I think people should be buying these cars based on what makes them feel better as they are walking up to them, sitting down....and driving on a daily basis and worrying less about whether or not the G70 with the 3.3L is 0.2 seconds faster 0-60. Both cars are ridiculously fast and would crush the supercars of yesteryear. Fretting about fractions of a second in performance is kind of dumb.
The type s is 5.2 0-60 and the g70 is 4.5 0-60
That is a huge difference. There trap speeds in the 1/4 are also big difference. The g70 traps 108-109 while the type s traps 102-103.
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The type s is 5.2 0-60 and the g70 is 4.5 0-60
That is a huge difference. There trap speeds in the 1/4 are also big difference. The g70 traps 108-109 while the type s traps 102-103.
Car and Driver says 4.9 for the Type S and 4.7 for the G70. G70 is incrementally faster if that's important to you. I don't know about you, but I don't remember the last time that I was racing someone at 103 mph. If raw speed is all that is important to you....don't buy a TLX. If you want the best looking car in the class with a pretty good stereo, a nice interior and above average performance....you look at the TLX. I guarantee that if the cars are not side by side that 99.9% of people can't tell the difference between the two cars in the speed department.

I think the G70 is a god awful ugly car with cheap Hyundai parts sprinkled in. Buy it if you love it so much....but no thanks from my perspective.
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Originally Posted by flatlandtlx
Car and Driver says 4.9 for the Type S and 4.7 for the G70. G70 is incrementally faster if that's important to you. I don't know about you, but I don't remember the last time that I was racing someone at 103 mph. If raw speed is all that is important to you....don't buy a TLX. If you want the best looking car in the class with a pretty good stereo, a nice interior and above average performance....you look at the TLX. I guarantee that if the cars are not side by side that 99.9% of people can't tell the difference between the two cars in the speed department.

I think the G70 is a god awful ugly car with cheap Hyundai parts sprinkled in. Buy it if you love it so much....but no thanks from my perspective.
99.95% of the time most people will not use the speed for "racing". I set my speed alert chime to keep me in check at 95mph (as you can get up there pretty fast and smooth) and surprisingly enough it goes off once or twice a week. Can't say I have really ever raced anyone in many years unless it's on the rare occasion someone at a red light want so go a little but I cut that off at a much lower speed. I don't really consider that a race and once I pull ahead I let off and let them keep going. That's not all that common either.
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Originally Posted by flatlandtlx
Car and Driver says 4.9 for the Type S and 4.7 for the G70. G70 is incrementally faster if that's important to you. I don't know about you, but I don't remember the last time that I was racing someone at 103 mph. If raw speed is all that is important to you....don't buy a TLX. If you want the best looking car in the class with a pretty good stereo, a nice interior and above average performance....you look at the TLX. I guarantee that if the cars are not side by side that 99.9% of people can't tell the difference between the two cars in the speed department.

I think the G70 is a god awful ugly car with cheap Hyundai parts sprinkled in. Buy it if you love it so much....but no thanks from my perspective.
LOL that 4.9 0-60 car and driver got is with .3 1ft rollout that they just started using which is 5.2……..the g70 got 4.7 with no 1ft rollout and it was RWD. Motortrend got 4.5 0-60 for the AWD g70 no 1ft rollout. Car and driver git for the stinger gt which is basically a g70 but slightly heavier 4.4 0-60 n 12.9 1/4 @110 for the rwd stinger and 4.6 0-60 n 13.2 1/4 mile @108 both are not using 1ft rollout. Sam carlegion raced the g70 n type s and type s got smoked. AHC garage did multiple dragy runs in type s and got 5.2 0-60 n 13.6 1/4 mile @103 every run. Edmunds got 5.2 0-60 n 13.5 1/4 mile @102 as well in there review. Another channel On YouTube dynod the type s and it only had 280whp. Every other car in the class dynos at 320-330whp or more. You say the g70 has cheap interior parts but that’s funny I’ve never saw a single review where anyone says this infact they say it’s interior is very good. Looks are subjective but the g70 is very attractive imo. The type s looks good too but it sacrificed trying to look like it has RWD proportions by being very heavy. You say the type s has above average performance maybe for a regular economy car. Buy for its segment it’s has very underwhelming performance it’s dead last in the segment it’s not even close. I really had high hopes for the typos when I first heard about it but the way Acura market it first how it really performs in real life I’m sorry I it’s a huge disappointment.
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I was so stoked for the Type S in that delicious blue... but then I started researching the G70, and Genesis just offers so many more amenities (including free (valet!) service), *much* better tech (360 camera in 2022... really Acura? No rear USB???), plus the G70 gets astounding reviews all around, especially the 2022. Price is pretty much identical (around $53K). I'm a longtime Honda/Acura guy and I know Genesis is made by Hyundai, but it's getting reviews (and has for a few years) from literally everyone putting it just shy of the BMW 345i, for thousands less ... anyone else in the same boat / have any thoughts?
I test drove both vehicles as well and got an M340i. My second choice would have been the G70. The G70 actually feels European from a driving standpoint and also feels noticeably quicker than the Type S. The G70s steering is way better for me - the Type S feels overly light.

The only thing I hate about the G70 is that they didn't include the full digital cluster or even the analogue cluster from the prior year. The half digital/half analog cluster looks very cheap - like something you'd find in an economy car. Other than that, it's a very compelling package.
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LOL that 4.9 0-60 car and driver got is with .3 1ft rollout that they just started using which is 5.2……..the g70 got 4.7 with no 1ft rollout and it was RWD. Motortrend got 4.5 0-60 for the AWD g70 no 1ft rollout. Car and driver git for the stinger gt which is basically a g70 but slightly heavier 4.4 0-60 n 12.9 1/4 @110 for the rwd stinger and 4.6 0-60 n 13.2 1/4 mile @108 both are not using 1ft rollout. Sam carlegion raced the g70 n type s and type s got smoked. AHC garage did multiple dragy runs in type s and got 5.2 0-60 n 13.6 1/4 mile @103 every run. Edmunds got 5.2 0-60 n 13.5 1/4 mile @102 as well in there review. Another channel On YouTube dynod the type s and it only had 280whp. Every other car in the class dynos at 320-330whp or more. You say the g70 has cheap interior parts but that’s funny I’ve never saw a single review where anyone says this infact they say it’s interior is very good. Looks are subjective but the g70 is very attractive imo. The type s looks good too but it sacrificed trying to look like it has RWD proportions by being very heavy. You say the type s has above average performance maybe for a regular economy car. Buy for its segment it’s has very underwhelming performance it’s dead last in the segment it’s not even close. I really had high hopes for the typos when I first heard about it but the way Acura market it first how it really performs in real life I’m sorry I it’s a huge disappointment.
If you are all about speed you don't get G70 either as it's still behind M340, C43, S4....
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If you’re more about speed in this segment then the M340i is really the only choice.
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Originally Posted by dmski
If you are all about speed you don't get G70 either as it's still behind M340, C43, S4....
Your not getting the point. It’s not just about speed. The g70/stinger actually hang with the Germans. Shit I see stingers doing 12.5s stock in the 1/4. But the Koreans hang with the Germans while being 10-15k cheaper. That is what the type s was supposed to be. But the type s doesn’t even hang with the Koreans………shameful
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Originally Posted by F23A4
If you’re more about speed in this segment then the M340i is really the only choice.
No it’s not just about speed. But if I buy a car in this segment it better damn well be able to hang and hold it’s own with the competition. The Koreans atleast do the average mid 4s 0-60 n high 12s in the 1/4. All while being 10-15k less then the Germans sometimes 20k less. The type s was supposed to do that. But it doesn’t even compete with the Koreans let alone the Germans. If I’m spending 50k+ on a vehicle I want it to be able to hang with other cars in the segment. The type S is slower then a Sonata N line that is only 290hp FWD. if the Koreans didn’t exist it would be more tolerable but they have way more performance for the same price or cheaper with more tech/features. Me personally would never buy the dead last slowest car in the segment by a good margin. Really only thing has going for it is looks which are subjective and a decent exhaust note.
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Your not getting the point. It’s not just about speed. The g70/stinger actually hang with the Germans. Shit I see stingers doing 12.5s stock in the 1/4. But the Koreans hang with the Germans while being 10-15k cheaper. That is what the type s was supposed to be. But the type s doesn’t even hang with the Koreans………shameful
It appears the Koreans have nicely filled the void vacated by Acura over a decade ago.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
If you’re more about speed in this segment then the M340i is really the only choice.
Also many reviews have stated the g70 is 98% as good as the m340i……..obviously it’s not as quick but handling wise etc feels just like m340i. Even with the AWD g70 it is still very playful and can get on throttle oversteer very easily. I’ve seen reviewers say it’s better handling then m340i and more talkative steering. For 10-15k less then m340i that’s very impressive. The 3.3t is not as good as the b58 but it is a beast of a motor. I’ve seen them hitting high 10s with just bolt ons and a JB4 piggyback tune. They dyno around 320-330whp so they are underrated from the factory. More around 380hp then 365. I’ve only seen one dyno of the type s but it wasn’t good. 280whp. If that holds true that means the Acura 3.0t is slightly overrated from factory.
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It appears the Koreans have nicely filled the void vacated by Acura over a decade ago.
That is exactly what happened. The sad thing is the Koreans have only been doing performance sedans since 2018. Acura has been doing them for over 20 years. It’s sad they let the Koreans put out better product then them when the Koreans are basically brand new to the game. Acura is just resting on there laurels. The Koreans are hungry. But I thought with the new type s Acura finally would get there act together and put out some heat. Boy was I let down. How is the Type S the newest motor/platform in the segment but is the slowest in the segment by a good margin? That is embarrassing. They knew the performance specs of the competition and didn’t even come close to them. Acura wouldn’t even mention the Koreans in there Marketing for the type s they said there competition was only the Germans. But the Koreans blow the type s out the water. They lost there value card because the Koreans are the same price or cheaper with way more performance. Acura right now imo is embarrassing. If the TLX type s is not really quick then the MDX type s which is a lot heavier is really going to be slow for its segment. It’s still using the same 3.0t with the same 355hp.
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The type s is 5.2 0-60 and the g70 is 4.5 0-60
That is a huge difference. There trap speeds in the 1/4 are also big difference. The g70 traps 108-109 while the type s traps 102-103.
So you joined this site yesterday just to bash the Type S? I’m probably wrong yet I’ve long suspected that there’s a cadre of folks that are getting paid to pump up online both the G70 and Stinger.
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So you joined this site yesterday just to bash the Type S? I’m probably wrong yet I’ve long suspected that there’s a cadre of folks that are getting paid to pump up online both the G70 and Stinger.
This may be true but tsander2 is not really covering any new ground.

The only cure to guard against all this vitriol is for Acura to make a compelling product!
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So you joined this site yesterday just to bash the Type S? I’m probably wrong yet I’ve long suspected that there’s a cadre of folks that are getting paid to pump up online both the G70 and Stinger.
No I joined because I was really excited about the type s………..until it officially came out and it’s performance specs were revealed. Acura played a lot of people with its BS marketing schemes. I wanted to see what the people in here thought about the type s since it came out. I’ve seen no evidence of people online being paid to pump up the Koreans. I have on the other hand witnessed just recently that whole Sham at Laguna Seca for the type S reveal. If seen redline review stage a drag race to where they purposely made the type s win vs the S4. But that has been exposed. It gets demolished by the S4. These deceptive tactics Acura are using are pitiful. I kno for a fact people either purchased or put a deposit down on the type s soley on that staged redline review race. I wanted to see if the Acura loyalists saw thru the BS. It appears not. Blame Acura for how they marketed the type s and how much they hyped it up………….just to be not even mediocre but dead last in performance is not cool at all. Like I said before I had high hopes for the type s might have bought one but Acura pulled a fast one and imo deserves to be called out on it.
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Originally Posted by ELIN
This may be true but tsander2 is not really covering any new ground.

The only cure to guard against all this vitriol is for Acura to make a compelling product!
You hit the nail on the head. If they would put out some better performing product then the current type s then I wouldn’t be saying a damn word💯
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No I joined because I was really excited about the type s………..until it officially came out and it’s performance specs were revealed. Acura played a lot of people with its BS marketing schemes. I wanted to see what the people in here thought about the type s since it came out. I’ve seen no evidence of people online being paid to pump up the Koreans. I have on the other hand witnessed just recently that whole Sham at Laguna Seca for the type S reveal. If seen redline review stage a drag race to where they purposely made the type s win vs the S4. But that has been exposed. It gets demolished by the S4. These deceptive tactics Acura are using are pitiful. I kno for a fact people either purchased or put a deposit down on the type s soley on that staged redline review race. I wanted to see if the Acura loyalists saw thru the BS. It appears not. Blame Acura for how they marketed the type s and how much they hyped it up………….just to be not even mediocre but dead last in performance is not cool at all. Like I said before I had high hopes for the type s might have bought one but Acura pulled a fast one and imo deserves to be called out on it.
People who have been exceptionally vocal about the third coming of the TYPE-S expecting it will kick German butt based on fake advertising & fake events find it better to make excuses for Acuras marketing practices than admit it was never Acuras intent to go head to head with them in hardware. It was all about building an image based on a Legend (no pun intended) that never was. The Last TL-S was a very modest 271CC increase in a 2 year effort to buck up falling sales at the end of the 3G product cycle.

That Legend grew all out of proportion to reality since the year it was introduced. They all seem to have forgotten back in 2007 when the TL-S was release C&D tested the new BMW335i
C/D 2007 335i
TEST RESULTS

60 mph: 4.9 sec
100 mph: 12.1 sec
140 mph: 28.0 sec
Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 5.6 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 6.5 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 6.0 sec
1/4 mile: 13.6 sec @ 105 mph

C/D 2008 Acura TL Type-S
TEST RESULTS

60 mph: 5.5 sec
100 mph: 13.9 sec
130 mph: 25.8 sec
Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 5.8 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 10.1 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 9.8 sec
1/4 mile: 14.1 sec @ 101 mph

Read the posts now, "nobody cares about the Type-S's lack of grunit it was never meant to be a_______ pick something"

That said the day of the big S4 drag race by Slow Sam they were lined up early morning waiting for the stream & the S4's demize hours before the event. After the total massacre by the S4 not the TLX-S as expected it was cricket land till the excuses started to flow. These guys were all ginned up for the big kill in living color on the big screen based on Red Line's fake drag races at the Laguna Seca introduction. They got BS'd, left at the altar & are still in denial. Wonder how many deposits from ADM dealers have been returned?
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No I joined because I was really excited about the type s………..until it officially came out and it’s performance specs were revealed. Acura played a lot of people with its BS marketing schemes. I wanted to see what the people in here thought about the type s since it came out. I’ve seen no evidence of people online being paid to pump up the Koreans. I have on the other hand witnessed just recently that whole Sham at Laguna Seca for the type S reveal. If seen redline review stage a drag race to where they purposely made the type s win vs the S4. But that has been exposed. It gets demolished by the S4. These deceptive tactics Acura are using are pitiful. I kno for a fact people either purchased or put a deposit down on the type s soley on that staged redline review race. I wanted to see if the Acura loyalists saw thru the BS. It appears not. Blame Acura for how they marketed the type s and how much they hyped it up………….just to be not even mediocre but dead last in performance is not cool at all. Like I said before I had high hopes for the type s might have bought one but Acura pulled a fast one and imo deserves to be called out on it.
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You hit the nail on the head. If they would put out some better performing product then the current type s then I wouldn’t be saying a damn word💯
You're my fucking hero

This man came here, spoke his mind, supported with facts, no emotional attachment behind the statements, a true hero. Thank you.
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I get a kick out of the “if it’s all about the speed….” Comments. It’s almost never about just one thing. I traded a 540 BMW for my G70. I loved the BMW. But it was about price, ride, features, stereo, seats………. I was at a point where I wanted to spend less money on a car and the G70 was an easy decision. In a perfect world I would put the M340 engine in a G70. I love the G70 and after four months I would say that even if it cost the same as the Audi, BMW etc.

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Okay, and you waited until yesterday to join. 🤔
You the Hall Monitor? He joined because he felt like it, just like everybody else. Sorry it the Type-S came up way short but it is what it is. Maybe the next time the will build wjay they advertise. Its not like the didn't screw the pouch with the original TLX. Really hot looking car is shown about a month before its the not that attractive brother the real TLX was dropped on the fans with a fabulous transmission.
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Originally Posted by 04WDPSeDaN
You're my fucking hero

This man came here, spoke his mind, supported with facts, no emotional attachment behind the statements, a true hero. Thank you.
And the three or four villagers light up their torches & grab their pitchforks.Easier to attack the messenger than rationally defend what the product is vs what Acura says it is.
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Old 08-21-2021, 08:56 PM
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You the Hall Monitor? He joined because he felt like it, just like everybody else. Sorry it the Type-S came up way short but it is what it is. Maybe the next time the will build wjay they advertise. Its not like the didn't screw the pouch with the original TLX. Really hot looking car is shown about a month before its the not that attractive brother the real TLX was dropped on the fans with a fabulous transmission.
Bear, no I’m not the hall monitor here. You are and your post simply reinforces that it’s a role you’ve chosen to fully claim as your own. Didn’t mean to step on your feet sir.

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Bear, no I’m not the hall monitor here. You are and your post simply reinforces that it’s a roll you’ve chosen to fully claim as your own. Didn’t mean to step on your feet sir.
Moi, the hall monitor, not on your life...I am for free exchange of all interesting Automobile related items. Its just seriously unfortunate that Acura is a bit short of interesting this week or last week, or?. In fact its getting quieter & quieter here as time goes on & Laguna Seca, 5 second 0-60, Sams races & ADM's slowly fade into the past. Be 2 or 3 years before Acura starts the same old publicity cycle they used in the past.

At least the 5 door guys can have some fun when the new MDX Type S hits the market. Maybe it will be quicker than my 3 ton Chevy 4X4.

You sir are the one who has the nerve to ask a brand new member for his hall pass. Like he is somehow not supposed to be here unless he chants the Acura "Precision Crafted Performance" mantra at least ten times & swears blind allegiance to the brand no matter how badly they screw over the fans with unkept promises.

BTW you get a new torch yet....its gotten a real workout on the defence.

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Haven’t driven or even sat in a G70, but after test driving the GV70, I was very impressed and immediately traded in my RDX for one.
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Haven’t driven or even sat in a G70, but after test driving the GV70, I was very impressed and immediately traded in my RDX for one.
Congratulations! The GV70's are stunning! I was mind blown when I saw them in person.




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Congratulations! The GV70's are stunning! I was mind blown when I saw them in person.



Yeah, they really pulled out all the stops on this one. I got the Sport Plus (which I believe is called Sport Prestige in the US) and it just has everything you can imagine in terms of tech and features. 375 hp isn’t too shabby either. Picking it up in a few days and will post a few pictures then.
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Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory
People who have been exceptionally vocal about the third coming of the TYPE-S expecting it will kick German butt based on fake advertising & fake events find it better to make excuses for Acuras marketing practices than admit it was never Acuras intent to go head to head with them in hardware. It was all about building an image based on a Legend (no pun intended) that never was. The Last TL-S was a very modest 271CC increase in a 2 year effort to buck up falling sales at the end of the 3G product cycle.

That Legend grew all out of proportion to reality since the year it was introduced. They all seem to have forgotten back in 2007 when the TL-S was release C&D tested the new BMW335i
C/D 2007 335i
TEST RESULTS

60 mph: 4.9 sec
100 mph: 12.1 sec
140 mph: 28.0 sec
Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 5.6 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 6.5 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 6.0 sec
1/4 mile: 13.6 sec @ 105 mph

C/D 2008 Acura TL Type-S
TEST RESULTS

60 mph: 5.5 sec
100 mph: 13.9 sec
130 mph: 25.8 sec
Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 5.8 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 10.1 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 9.8 sec
1/4 mile: 14.1 sec @ 101 mph

Read the posts now, "nobody cares about the Type-S's lack of grunit it was never meant to be a_______ pick something"

That said the day of the big S4 drag race by Slow Sam they were lined up early morning waiting for the stream & the S4's demize hours before the event. After the total massacre by the S4 not the TLX-S as expected it was cricket land till the excuses started to flow. These guys were all ginned up for the big kill in living color on the big screen based on Red Line's fake drag races at the Laguna Seca introduction. They got BS'd, left at the altar & are still in denial. Wonder how many deposits from ADM dealers have been returned?
I agree with most of what you say. But Acura specifically said they benchmarked the S4. And they said there competition is the other 2 German players Merc and BMW. If you benchmark something shouldn’t it be atleast able to hang with it? I knew it wouldn’t be quicker then the Germans but atleast was hoping it would hang with atleast the S4 which is the slowest of the Germans. That’s all I wanted was to be able to hang but like I said before the Type S doesn’t even hang with the Koreans let alone the Germans. Acura first told journalists at Laguna Seca the type was was a “around 5 sec “ 0-60 car. Then they started feeling the heat about that is not good enough which imo it isn’t. Then they started telling journalists who got test cars from dealerships it’s a 4.5 0-60 car. Like damn Acura you change the story that quick and really think it’s not going to be exposed? Acura marketed the type s totally wrong. If they knew it couldn’t hang with the S4 why would you benchmark it? If they would have just dropped the “Type S” moniker and marketed it as a top trim
bigger motor TLX I would feel a whole lot better about it.

You showed the performance specs of that 2007 335i. The 2021 type S runs the same times as a 14 year old car with what 300hp? That’s simply a disgrace in my book. No excuses.
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Originally Posted by SebringSilver
Yeah, they really pulled out all the stops on this one. I got the Sport Plus (which I believe is called Sport Prestige in the US) and it just has everything you can imagine in terms of tech and features. 375 hp isn’t too shabby either. Picking it up in a few days and will post a few pictures then.
Congrats again man! I can't wait to see your photos. What color combos did you go with?
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Originally Posted by 04WDPSeDaN
Congrats again man! I can't wait to see your photos. What color combos did you go with?
Mauna Red with Ultramarine Blue interior. Will basically look like this:




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Originally Posted by 04WDPSeDaN
You're my fucking hero

This man came here, spoke his mind, supported with facts, no emotional attachment behind the statements, a true hero. Thank you.
No problem. Acura deserves to be called out on this one. Sadly the majority of Acura loyalists are still in denial. And the fact some people are paying over MSRP for the type s is just plain robbery imo. I’ll give it to Acura there deceptive tactics worked on a lot of loyal Acura customers.
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Originally Posted by SebringSilver
Mauna Red with Ultramarine Blue interior. Will basically look like this:



God damn man!! PLEASE take pictures when you get. What a beautiful combo!!!!!!!

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No problem. Acura deserves to be called out on this one. Sadly the majority of Acura loyalists are still in denial. And the fact some people are paying over MSRP for the type s is just plain robbery imo. I’ll give it to Acura there deceptive tactics worked on a lot of loyal Acura customers.
A lot of us true enthusiast have called out Acura for the same reasons as yours and then some and as you experienced 1st hand, you have some loyal Acura fans who are obsessed with the need to defend the brand no matter what or cling to whatever bullshit they read to feel better about it. They are irrelevant and I just keep them on my block / ignore list where they belong.
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Old 08-22-2021, 03:17 PM
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Okay, and you waited until yesterday to join. 🤔
Why does it matter when I joined? I’m just saying what a lot of people are thinking but don’t want to say. Acura took there shot and missed again with the Type S. It’s not right how they schemed and lied. If it was better product like I said before I wouldn’t be saying a damn thing. I kno Acura can do it. Look at the CTR…….that’s a hell of a car. Even the RDX 2.0t imo is very good. The sport sedan segment is fierce tho with a lot of competition. Acura hyped it up to make it look like the Type S would finally bring a sport sedan that could FINALLY COMPETE in the segment. It doesn’t compete tho it gets embarrassed. It’s not the value proposition either anymore the Koreans stole that. So I’ll ask you what is it to the segment?………..a nice looking daily driver? You can get a ASPEC for that. IMO it’s the biggest fattest slowest car in the segment with pretty much the same backseat room as a g70 which is much smaller then TLX. If you say it’s just a fun daily driver then why does it have 2 huge structural braces that pretty much block the extra space one could utilize by putting the backseat down. The Type S doesn’t know what it wants to be. Did Acura really think the heaviest car in the segment with pretty much the least hp/tq in the segment was a good recipe? So many head scratchers I can’t count.
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Yeah, they really pulled out all the stops on this one. I got the Sport Plus (which I believe is called Sport Prestige in the US) and it just has everything you can imagine in terms of tech and features. 375 hp isn’t too shabby either. Picking it up in a few days and will post a few pictures then.
Congrats on your new ride. Very good looking car, Enjoy.
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Congrats on your new ride. Very good looking car, Enjoy.
Thank you, sir. Just for fun, I recommend you go check it out at your nearby Genesis dealership. What Genesis is doing is pretty much forcing car buyers to recalibrate how we rank car brands in terms of desirability. They’re literally challenging decades-old preconceptions.
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You showed the performance specs of that 2007 335i. The 2021 type S runs the same times as a 14 year old car with what 300hp? That’s simply a disgrace in my book. No excuses.
To be fair, the 2007 BMW 335i Coupe in the road test Bear posted it it's 700 pounds lighter than the TLX Type S

This is the test of the 2012 335i sedan (at that time the F30 was just introduced)

Zero to 60 mph: 5.3 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 13.0 sec
Street Start, 5-60 mph: 5.9 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.8 sec @ 103 mph

Car weighted 3551 lbs

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...n-test-review/

355 HP and 4200 lbs can get you only so far....

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Thank you, sir. Just for fun, I recommend you go check it out at your nearby Genesis dealership. What Genesis is doing is pretty much forcing car buyers to recalibrate how we rank car brands in terms of desirability. They’re literally challenging decades-old preconceptions.
Saw one out in the wild and it is gorgeous. Pricing in Canada is $75K and $85K all in🤯. I'm assuming that they don't haggle and MSRP is what you pay.


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