TLX S vs IS500.
09-13-2021, 12:13 PM
#81
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Now we are talking ....
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09-13-2021, 12:21 PM
#82
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Congratulations on the post...but, never going to happen. I really don't forsee any changes that would be substantial enough to make the product a legitimate competitor in the segment. If we're "lucky" maybe they have enough headroom to bump the numbers to 360hp/360lb-ft in order to take on the illusion of increased performance. Even then, the target demographic would be fairly wise to this move. The biggest upgrade I would expect in the MMC version will be a touchscreen in addition to the trackpad as well as rounding out it's features with TLX Advance goodies.
09-13-2021, 12:22 PM
#83
Type-S is 45 kg lighter than ’97 NSX coupe with Power Assisted Steering.
Type-S is 30 kg lighter than ’97 NSX coupe without Power Assisted Steering.
Type-S Zero is 51 kg lighter than Type-S.
Type-S is 30 kg lighter than ’97 NSX coupe without Power Assisted Steering.
Type-S Zero is 51 kg lighter than Type-S.
09-13-2021, 12:23 PM
#84
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09-13-2021, 01:05 PM
#85
Thanks! The S5 SB can do 0-60 in ~4.2-4.5s, depending on equipment/conditions/etc.
Is 0-60 the single most important thing? Nope. But I also believe in standard deviation. The Type-S is not really near the others either, the IS500 is. The super annoying part is that the engine is new. If it would have been stuffed/recycled like Lexus' V8, would have been a better pill to swallow.
Is 0-60 the single most important thing? Nope. But I also believe in standard deviation. The Type-S is not really near the others either, the IS500 is. The super annoying part is that the engine is new. If it would have been stuffed/recycled like Lexus' V8, would have been a better pill to swallow.
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09-13-2021, 01:14 PM
#86
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I'm wondering why they didn't put the turbo on the 2.4 from the 1G instead of the 2.0 for the non Type S cars? Concern for MPG?
09-13-2021, 01:26 PM
#87
Great question. I do no know other than maybe since the 2.0T has been in the accord and civic and proven to be rock solid they did not feel the additional R&D was not worth it?
09-13-2021, 01:28 PM
#88
If the Americans do one thing right, it’s V8’s. I’m partial to GM, but they’re all awesome. Ford, GM, Mopar … probably the only cars I’d own from them would be ones with some variation of a V8. Even if Lexus’s variant doesn’t quite stack up, it’s still fantastic option to have.
Plus, being built in Japan, you can basically guarantee the build quality will be superior to anything coming out of Acura. I know the build quality of my Ohio built RDX is dismal. $3k is a premium I’d be willing to pay for the IS after my personal experience with the Acura brand.
Plus, being built in Japan, you can basically guarantee the build quality will be superior to anything coming out of Acura. I know the build quality of my Ohio built RDX is dismal. $3k is a premium I’d be willing to pay for the IS after my personal experience with the Acura brand.
Do yourself a favor and test drive the new CT4 V Blackwing.....even without V8 that car is a joy to drive....
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09-13-2021, 01:30 PM
#89
To sum up my opinion on the Type S.
Very nice looking, inside and outside, some missing features on the luxury side, very competent handling (according to the reviews I did not drive one myself)
Performance wise, Acura simply brought a knife to a gun fight.
Very nice looking, inside and outside, some missing features on the luxury side, very competent handling (according to the reviews I did not drive one myself)
Performance wise, Acura simply brought a knife to a gun fight.
09-13-2021, 01:40 PM
#90
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Realistically the only additions that are likely for the MMC are minor cosmetics and the missing Tech, all of which is available now on the TLX so there is no R&D or other effort involved. Any engine/performance changes would require considerable R&D, testing and emissions recertification.
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09-13-2021, 01:40 PM
#91
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I believe in Jon Ikeda. For once this is the chance Acura can take itself to the next level.
Small chance it's coming? Yes. But it's much bigger than any time for the last 10-12 years.
Small chance it's coming? Yes. But it's much bigger than any time for the last 10-12 years.
Congratulations on the post...but, never going to happen. I really don't forsee any changes that would be substantial enough to make the product a legitimate competitor in the segment. If we're "lucky" maybe they have enough headroom to bump the numbers to 360hp/360lb-ft in order to take on the illusion of increased performance. Even then, the target demographic would be fairly wise to this move. The biggest upgrade I would expect in the MMC version will be a touchscreen in addition to the trackpad as well as rounding out it's features with TLX Advance goodies.
09-13-2021, 01:43 PM
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09-13-2021, 01:45 PM
#93
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3b8gwp8fQI
Base trim = 56k
Premium trim is 61k
Launch Edition = 67k
I don't know that it really competes with the TLX Type S - it's a different beast.
Base trim = 56k
Premium trim is 61k
Launch Edition = 67k
I don't know that it really competes with the TLX Type S - it's a different beast.
09-13-2021, 02:17 PM
#94
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I'm not so sure the Type-S is flying off dealer lots. My dealer, who was over sold at introduction (16 orders with deposits and only 14 allocated) told me back in June I could get one because some people had backed out. As of today he has three in stock. Other dealers in the area also have some. I suspect (based on no actual knowledge) that some may have just gone with a TLX with SH-AWD. All the features, 100% of the handling and 95+% of the acceleration for 83% of the cost. Or get an Advance and have all the tech that the Type-S is missing. It's telling that the dealer has more Type-S's than SH-AWD TLX's on the lot (3 to 2).
Realistically the only additions that are likely for the MMC are minor cosmetics and the missing Tech, all of which is available now on the TLX so there is no R&D or other effort involved. Any engine/performance changes would require considerable R&D, testing and emissions recertification.
Realistically the only additions that are likely for the MMC are minor cosmetics and the missing Tech, all of which is available now on the TLX so there is no R&D or other effort involved. Any engine/performance changes would require considerable R&D, testing and emissions recertification.
09-13-2021, 03:00 PM
#95
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My dealer indicated that they only have one which has not been spoken for....probably because it's that hideous Tiger Eye Pearl color.
09-13-2021, 04:20 PM
#96
Burning Brakes
We already know that you don't consider Type S to be a competitor with your earlier comments how it will get its doors blown off. We'll, it's been proven that a simple downpipe nets S in flat 13`s so it's right there with the bunch with just a simple bolt on and not even messing around with the ECU.
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09-13-2021, 05:27 PM
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09-14-2021, 02:27 AM
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09-14-2021, 12:01 PM
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Looks like Doug got his hands on one too
09-14-2021, 12:10 PM
#100
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Dude was granny cruising in the left lane.
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09-14-2021, 01:33 PM
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09-14-2021, 02:29 PM
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09-14-2021, 02:45 PM
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09-14-2021, 03:30 PM
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It’s definitely piqued my interest. Hopefully they continue to produce them for years and start producing more of them. 250 units is absurdly small, though I heard that was a soft number and they were actually making more than that as orders came in.
09-14-2021, 03:36 PM
#107
So you’d be happy with the IS500 base model provided you could find one at your local Lexus dealer? The base model has an 8” display and lacks memory seat setting or tilt down rear view outside mirrors when trans is in reverse. Might as well pony up the other $5K and get you a decently equipped version.
As fiatlux said, unlikely there will be Base models on lots, but yes, I would be perfectly content with the Base model and not be left wanting.
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09-14-2021, 08:30 PM
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09-15-2021, 03:32 AM
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09-15-2021, 06:42 AM
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That's a wee bit more than a cameo! I still don't want to buy an Audi but that was really something.
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