Not a super surprising result, we already had the numbers so knew who would win but it still says something that we are comparing the TLX-S to the Honda Accord because that's not really what an inspiring TLX-S buyer is going to cross shop. They are going to look at the S4, the G70, the M340i, the new M240i, etc and well... about that...

 

Not sure the new M240Xi will grab the TLX-S buyer as it will not be inexpensive & will only carry 4 people. Its a pretty small car, bigger than last generation but still small 2 door with a smaller back seat then the TLX. That said it should be a rocket with the 382BHP B58 engine, AWD & ZF8 transmission & attractive to people who only occasionally need to use the back seat for passengers.

Front Head Room (inches) 40.1

Front Leg Room (inches) 41.5

Front Shoulder Room (inches) 54.4

Front Hip Room (inches) NA

Second Row Head Room (inches) 34.7

Second Row Leg Room (inches) 32.2

Second Row Shoulder Room (inches) 51.7

Second Row Hip Room (inches) NA

Trunk Space (cubic feet)10

 

what’s mind boggling to me is how the new M240i weighs as much as an M340i.

 

Was the same with the prior generations. Well at least pretty close maybe a few hundred pounds. Typically a 3 series with a shortened floor pan & wheelbase. Goes all the way back to the 135is vs 335is

2011 335is
182″ L x 70″ W x 54-55″ H 108.7″ WB

2013 135is
172″ L x 69″ W x 55-56″ H 104.7″ WB

2022 M340
186″ L x 72″ W x 56″ H 112.2" WB

2022 M240
179″ L x 72″ W x 55″ H 107.9″ WB

 

Weird

 

He just did the Kia K5 GT versus the Type S. Results aren’t surprising.


The comments are hilarious as usual. Did anyone on these forums purchase a Type S for straight line speed or did you do so because of the overall package? I feel the styling inside and out, performance with speed and handling, comfort and overall Acura reliability are what I looked for and wanted when I purchased the Type S. There are too many people who think straight line speed is everything. I must be crazy because I enjoy cornering more than straight line speed.

 

Straight line speed isn't everything, but a self-proclaimed "performance car" that costs $20K more than a 4-banger family sedan should be better than it in every single performance facet.

 

The overwhelming majority of people who buy performance cars don't go on tracks or fly around Mountain corners. They do stop light races or freeway races so they care about straight line speed. Even though it's only one part of speed and not a big deal it matters. Nobody likes getting their doors blown off if your car is supposed to be a performance car.

 

Which is fine. But I don’t think that’s the market for any Acura sedan or SUV. I blame the marketing from Acura more than anything but the Type S was never going to blow away other performance cars. I guess I’m in the minority who enjoy the overall package of a sports sedan to that of straight line speed.

 

1. The TLX-S has been tested on the track & straight line performance and has shown it's true colors. Far from the hype Acura's marketing team put out there.

2. Styling is subjective. To be honest, it's been better than the tragic designs of the 2010+ years.

3. Reliability? I wouldn't brag about this.. The TLX has more issues than it should have and this is still only the beginning. As for the TLX-S, the engine has not been proven as of yet. To be fair, this vehicle hasn't hit the "long term ownership". Still too early to tell.

4. You shouldn't have to defend your purchase or become a keyboard warrior to justify why you purchased / leased a TLX-S. If you are truly happy with the vehicle, then nothing else should matter, including my personal opinion on the car.

5. Welcome to the internet. Everyone has their own opinion.

 

Haha, I don’t disagree with any of that. I don’t care what others think because this is what I truly wanted. I watch these videos for entertainment purposes and laugh at the comments.

I don’t envision a ton of reliability issues but we will see. It’s never a good start when my puddle light already went out. 😂

 

Man, that BreakfastLover guy on YouTube is a true Acura knob gobbler.

 

I don't think you are in the minority about cars that handle well. My cars handle & there are two lane former moonshine roads with quality pavement pretty much outside my front door even though I am only10 miles from the state capital building. Triangle Cobras do a local run once a month & try to join up with a group from Charlotte twice a year to run one of the best twist & turn roads in the country through the Great Smoky Mountains.

To make the whole 120 mile "Dragon Cherohala Loop"can take the good part of the day so its usually a weekend before & after the tourist season. Best part of the loop is The Tail of the Dragon at Deals Gap with 318 curves in 11 miles.

That said the most common is the traffic light grand prix & not to smart but its real. Legal interstate style high speed rolling start races are very popular with performance car owners up through McLaren, Lamborghini & Ferrari. Usually done at small airports they are 1/2 or full mile runs. Groups like SHIFT-S3CTOR & the Texas Mile run these. Local AutoX is crowded 100 cars or so. Clubs like Corvette, Porsche & BMW, Mazda sponsor, HPDS, track days, Track Attack & national race series.


Take away the BS Acura marketing & I think the main difference between the two factions here is about where is the break point between a good family car and a good sports sedan is & which side of the ledger is the Type-S on. Does Acura sponsor any customer events?

 

Oh it's definitely Acura's Marketing fault, if they were realistic and didn't put out so much hype and ad's making it seem like it would actually compete with the C43, M340i etc. The frustration wouldn't be there. I think Redline Reviews did a decent amount of damage when they staged that S4 race.

 

Marketing BS or not, the car should not be gapped by G70/Stinger nevermind some other econo cars. In terms of straight line performance the car is a fail.

 

That it is.

It’s plenty fast off the line IMO but it does lose steam very quickly.

 

I wonder if Acura is banking on the the Type S being the first "performance car" for most owners. Much like how the ILX is a lot of people's first "luxury" car and they're satisfied with it because they don't know any better, I imagine most first time "performance car" owners will be like "wow, this car is a rocket!", much like some of the initial test drive reactions on Youtube and Facebook seemed to indicate.

 

Losing in a roll race to a K5GT is unacceptable.

 

Who hurt you?

 

I hope Acura is paying attention, but alas - hope has never been a good management strategy.................

 

OK, I was not expecting this...Goddamn, the 4-popper Kia beat the V6 turbo TLX in a roll race...What a hell is there to say...Ridiculous.

 

It's a fact. Not going to pretend otherwise. Still got the car and enjoy it but could use more power.

 

Two things:

I would be the last guy to defend the TLX-S but BUT you cannot match a tuned car against a stock car & get a fair result. The races had no meaning. If the KIA had a better tune it could have won the standing start also.

Would agree with fiatlux on performance car perceptions based on experience. Believe based on comments here very few had any real experience, experience being true Fangs out runs, with performance cars either in a straight line or a twisty line. Think a lot of the Acura people move up through the Honda system

The BMW 4 series intro is a case in point. Run groups had about 20 people in them & if 2 or 3 in any group put down some good runs that was a lot. Saw the same thing in SC at the performance driving school. People had full reign in a BMW owned car, no BMW guy in the car & over a relativity short course 80% of the drivers finished 5 to 10 seconds a lap behind.

The whole competition was down to just the same 4 drivers in every timed or measured event.

 

Lol, sounds like Archie Hamilton.

 

I want to know, what did they do to that S4 at the launch event to make it lose to the Type-S?

 

lmao Acura sabotaged an S4 so that the Type-S could win at the launch event?

 

They probably put that Speedway 87 octane gas in it with no oil or coolant.

(I’m joking of course).

I didn’t see this event. Did the Type S win that race but lose in third party tests?

 

The Type S beats the S4 at 20:50 in the video...

 

Watch closer - whoever Sofiyan had in the S4 lifts off the throttle, you can see the S4 nose dove a little from letting off the gas pedal. It was intentional.

 

Lost to S4, G70, Stinger GT then beat the Honda & split with the tuned KIA GT. The S4 lost to the MB C43 AMG & M340.

S4 - MB C43 ANG - M340

 

Even worse, the K5 GT was stock, not tuned.

 

i think thats from quick shifts. i dont think they staged it. i just dont think they put the S4 into sport mode. S4 from what have seen shorts shifts in normal mode. no doubt the S4 is a faster vehicle.

 

While true that Kia wasn't tuned lol

 

Not quite TLX related but doesn't it seem odd Sam chose to race the MDX (n/a 3.5L) against the GV80 (twin turbo 3.5L)? You'd think the GV80 2.5T would be the closer match up to the A-spec MDX. If he'd race a TLX Type S against a Genesis G70 2.0T no question his followers would cry foul.

 

Ouch..thats really bad. Just suggests I might be close to reality with my guess in the other thread that the Type-S is all about the launch & at this time neutered higher in the rev range.

 

He races what he can get his hands on. As far as I can tell most of his cars come from his viewers; he doesn't seem to really get many press cars (and for good reason). Same reason Sofyan did a review of a TLX vs a Camry...because those were the two cars he had access to at the time.

 

Was this suppose to be close? The Kia only has a 4-cylinders and 290hp.