ACCURATEin

So who is already planning to do a twin turbo setup on the type S?!

Just because it comes with one turbo doesn't mean we shouldn't add another one.

ACCURATEin

I mean, maybe it's because i'm usually not driving around in sport plus mode, but that shouldn't really matter. I should drive around in sport plus for a week to see if it is any different.

I say ugly words really loudly when it happens.

CollinR4

I think that's hyperbole for a launch. Same engine/transmission/SH-AWD as the RDX with the first two also being used in the Accord. I'm not saying it's a bad thing at all, it's nice to know that early adopters should not have engine/transmission issues that plagued the 2015 TLX. Certainly would have liked some more details around pricing and a more concrete release date but from a visual standpoint, I'm impressed.

HDNBenjamin

Thanks for the correction. I was misinformed, but it is still a home run!

mapleloaf

Lots of time to perfect the 3.0 version. Apparently it won't be available until Spring 2021. And I think a 7 inch digital dash screen counts as a digital dash, with the Tach and Speedometer on either side.

internalaudit

The video mentioned none of the RDX engineers were involved while those on the NSX were. We all hope it makes a big difference. Maybe they can fix the RDX too in that regard.

sockr1

iTrader: (5)

unfortunately this doesn't mean that it's permanent. a lot of cars have this feature and when you turn it off, it comes back on by default the next time you turn the ignition on. i talked to a few people and they believe the same is true for the tlx...it resets every time you start the car. but we will see how the tlx is when it's released!!

the local acura parts manager has an sQ5 and it drives him nuts..

it's honestly almost a deal breaker for me but if the tech is good enough hopefully the auto stop at idle isn't too noticeable

04WDPSeDaN

iTrader: (1)

You're probably right. I had this issue with the X3 and just had it coded to stay off unless I wanted it back on to press the button.

04WDPSeDaN

iTrader: (1)

Have you looked into getting it tuned? Most that have similar issues that get tuned have it resolved.

internalaudit

I love the start stop function on our CT200h and 16 RAV4H.

They're hybrids though so cool air would still come out even when the engine is shut off.

Speed_Racer

Nah, it wouldn't make sense to have that in the Individual menu then. There's already a physical button to turn it off on the dash. I think this would turn it off permanently.

ACCURATEin

No, but we definitely would have the k tuner flash installed if it wasn't for the faulty infotainment. Folks are saying the throttle delay is eradicated with the tune which is cool. But, the wife says no tune for the rdx if they cant fix the infotainment issue. It's basically just getting us primed up for one of the type S offerings. Best case scenario would be to have both a rdx and tlx type S in the driveway, as well as the IS and white dragon.

hdcolumbus

Need to hear the exhaust note pleaaaassseee. I’m looking forward to testing one out. Just got so bored with my 19 A-Spec SH-AWD. Beautiful to look at, boring to drive. Hoping the Type-S delivers on the performance, love the aesthetics from what I’ve seen. May not get the double takes of the ARs, but I’d definitely consider coming back if the specs are there and it makes me want to be in the cockpit like my ARs do.

Carnage719

The 2.0T may be quicker 0-60 than the 3.5 V6, but the power delivery of the 2.0T in the RDX is bad. I had a loaner RDX and it was a huge disappointment. very laggy, sluggish, and unrefined. That RDX loaner experience totally turned me off on the 2.0T. If the 2021 TLX weighs less than the RDX, that might help, but I hope the engineers improved the transmission shift program and power delivery for the TLX application. Otherwise the 2.0T/10-speed combo will be trashed like the ZF9.

What's the problem with the infotainment unit?

technocrat

So the cats out of the bag

https://www.acura.com/future-vehicles/2021-tlx

Overall looks nice but those tail,lights remind of Fisker Karma :|

Tony Pac

I am in love with Type-S but i don't mind A-SPEC either. the interior is just amazing. i would say better and more upscale than the RDX.

djhtsx

iTrader: (2)

I agree! I will for sure have a type s in my driveway. I just can’t wait to see the full spec and accessory options.

NBP04TL4ME

Definitely going to be giving the new Type S a good look when it's available. I still love my 3G Type-S, but because of the pandemic and because I regularly WFH, I've only put 5400 miles on her in the past year - less than 400 in the past three months. So again, love her, but I've also been driving a 3G for 16+ years and think I'm ready for something new.

sockr1

iTrader: (5)

man this car keeps growing on me and growing on me. that interior looks so refined and modern compared to my 08 type s. come 2023-2024 i'm going to have a hard decision to make...do i dump my 08 6mt type s that i bought new in 08 for the new tlx type s or do i stay old school with my manual. tough tough call, unfortunately can't have both due to high cost of living for me in san diego (and i hate not having a car in a garage)

that's what i'm hoping as well! i hate that auto stop with a passion haha.

Midwestuser1

You could move to Montana and then BOOM you can have both cars

HDNBenjamin

Keep your current Type S and buy the new TLX type S. that way you have two generations of Type S's

sockr1

iTrader: (5)

hahaa i've been told this many times...move to "any state other than california, hawaii, and NY" and you can have both

ultrapogi

In the up close walk around videos it gives you a better look at the rear tail lights. I am not a fan of bulbous tail lights that are not flush with the body. It reminds me of an insects eyes.

Taz69

From every car I have seen if it has auto start stop it always defaults to back on when the car is cycled off. BUT there is always a hack to keep it off. The RDX open the hood then start the car with the hood open and then shut the hood. The auto start stop is disabled and thinks it is in mechanic mode and will stay that way until you open and shut the hood with the car running before you open it. Just 1 example.

mapleloaf

If it can't be programmed off, the it's one button to press when starting up the car. 2 seconds of your time. I do it every time I get into my 2.4 for Brakehold.....it's automatic.

Carnage719

Tried it...doesn't work on a 2018 TLX

Nexx

You might have it in your head that the Stinger is all that a bag of chips but no one is buying them. The sales are horrible let alone the GT2 trim level. https://www.motortrend.com/news/kia-...%20Car%20Blog.

dmski

I'm sure the KIA badge is holding it back. Lots of keyboard warriors praise this car but they ain't buying them.

04WDPSeDaN

iTrader: (1)

As DMSKI said, the issue is the badge not the car. As long as dealerships keep them discounted, they are worth the price. I can only speak for the enthusiasts who bought the stinger, they said they would, and they did. Those guys are KIA loyal. Going from an Optima to a Stinger was a no brainer to them. I looked into buying one but the wife refused the idea of owning it. She did just fine with a fully loaded 19 X3 M40i.

Nedmundo

The Stinger is interesting, because the more expensive GT versions actually sell better than the 2.0T, which KIA didn't expect. While the KIA badge does hold the Stinger back overall, I think with the 2.0T it's partly the car, or, more specifically, the engine. It's not bad by any means. I'd call it adequate, but it doesn't match the excellent 2.0T motors from Honda and BMW. (I've tried this engine in the Stinger and MT and AWD versions of the G70. Same reaction each time.)

This will be fixed for 2021, when the Stinger will get the corporate 2.5T/8DCT drivetrain. If they add modern safety tech as standard and hold the line on price, I'll be very tempted. Even with the 2.0T, I loved the car overall.

ACCURATEin

You really want to know?! lol

Well, it comes on whenever it decides to. Sometimes it doesn't turn on. Sometimes it flashes. Sometimes it is a white fuzzy screen of thousands of small colored pixels.

fiatlux

Badge prestige aside, the Kia dealership service really does hold them back. The ones in my area are all very sleezy and still treat their customers as if they're undeducated bumpkins with nary a penny to their name (though in their defense, that's who they've historically dealt with). It's almost like they don't know how to interact with the new customers that cars like the Stinger are bringing into the showrooms.

04WDPSeDaN

iTrader: (1)

You know what, you're 100% correct! I forgot how terrible their dealerships are. That's one thing I certainly wont miss.

Carnage719

Has the dealership's service figured out why and fixed or replaced?

Carnage719

I've heard that about both Hyundai and Kia dealerships.

BEAR-AvHistory

Which says what about a upper $50,000 TLX?

pyrodan007

VM also has it's problem of having a top tiered model in an unmatched price bracket for brand. Curious how this will do in the future, could be a Type-S competitor if a proper R model comes to NA.
https://www.motor1.com/news/426650/2...arteon-teaser/

That's why Acura needs to nail the features to make it worth the price. At a certain point, mechanics cannot make up for interior/tech being behind the competition. Older drivers may love the powertrain, but younger folks from premium brands may not have a good opinion of the interior. That's the part you use daily, not really the power of the engine. The wife factor is a major selling factor, she loves the interior of our A4. Could be a breaking point.

Tony Pac

Before making too many assumptions, let’s wait. We all saw what Acura has done in the last 24 months.
1. RDX - Huge success and company is going towards the right direction.
2. TLX - new engine, beautiful interior and the return of Type S.
3. The new MDX and MDX Type S. The car looks amazing and it will give cars like X5 and GLE a hard time, just like RDX did to Q5,X3 and GLC.
4. New sedan 2022, this will be another pleasant surprise.

Acura is set this time and they will give us the right price and product. If you watch the dealers webcast, then you know acura isn’t joking this time. Also, look at Infiniti, it’s becoming Nissan Plus, whereas acura is moving to target the right customers and produce the relavant cars.


A very important point to remember, the new RDX was priced higher than the previous gen. Many, many of us said, it won’t sell. Acura is unreasonable. Now let’s look back and see. Acura was right and we were wrong. The car is a major success and selling over 60K units two years in a row. No fluke!

Real buyers see the value of Acura and get the car. Window shoppers just point the negatives and make excuses. Like many of us here kept saying the RDX sales will be down soon as it has many problems. What happened to that argument? And what happened to QX50? Those that were saying Infiniti makes luxury cars and they will win the race 😜

04WDPSeDaN

iTrader: (1)

I hope you're one of the 1st ones at the dealership front door to purchase the type-s. Keep us posted, we are all counting on you!

Tony Pac

if not the first one, I will be one of them. Until I don’t see all the details, I won’t make any unnecessary assumptions either. I will
wait and see. Stay tune I am sure it will surprise you just like the RDX did