pyrodan007

I hope this doesn't mean the TLX will transition from a lazy transmission to a lazy engine

internalaudit

The more I am made aware of these problems, especially on Honda's or Acura's, the more I just want to wait for its BEVs.

I guess my 11 Accord is so low tech except for the VSA, it's almost ironclad.

Kinuto

Why couldn't they just keep the J35 for the base model? Beef it up to 300hp like Toyota and Nissan has done with their V6. All they would need is the RLX version of the J35.

Nexx

because we would complain that Acura is stuck in the mid 2000's and that they are behind the times for not going turbo. if you havent driven a 2.0T Honda yet go and try it. Its a hoot.

Kinuto

I'll have to check one out but the Acura version in the RDX. The Accord 2.0 was no match for my 2013 Acura TL with the J35.

internalaudit

Is your AWD TL? Was this on a track or just on the street?

Kinuto

J35 is the FWD for my gen TL. The J37 is the AWD. This was merely a highway pass with a 10th Gen Accord 2.0. I'm sticking with the V6 and the Type S will be my upgrade. I've driven the 2019 TLX V6 SH AWD. It was a fun and fast car but not much of an upgrade from my 4G in terms of power. I love that they made the next Gen TLX bigger cause the previous gen was too small.

04WDPSeDaN

iTrader: (1)

Well to not make this into a pissing contest. Your FWD TL does 0-60 in 6.2-6.4 seconds (documented from various sites) the 2019 Accord 2.0T does it in 5.5-5.7 (documented from various sites). In today's world, the N/A engines are becoming obsolete when it comes to the performance and efficiency of a F/I engines. $$ vs performance, your TL will need a lot more invested to see nearly the same amount of gains vs a F/I engine doing minor modifications. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a 2.0T engine. The TLX base will have the 2.0T but with an increase of power. It will be enough for the consumer buying the base model. The 2020 330i Xdrive nails 0-60 in 5.2-5.5 (documented from various sites) and the B48 has plenty of aftermarket support for reflash tunes which makes them even quicker. As a wild guess, the TLX 2.0T will be slightly faster than the current Accord 2.0T as long as the transmission is right on the money. Eventually this is where the industry will end up, with the exception of specific models sticking to N/A.

Kinuto

Those are nice numbers on paper but it's all on the driver. The 2.0 will be a wonderful engine for the base TLX but I have my money on that Twin Turbo V6 when it drops.

04WDPSeDaN

iTrader: (1)

Won't be a twin. Single turbo for sure. Possible to have an E-turbo.

By the way, it's not all that hard to launch these newer cars. Some come with launch control, but the fact of the matter is, you may mess with someone while rolling vs from a dig. But regardless, it's still quicker than your TL.

Kinuto

Everyone was saying twin turbo from the start. E Turbo? Similar setup to the RLX electric motors in a way correct?

sonyfever

No, very different. The e-turbo in the context of this V6 has electric motor that spins up the turbo before boost is built. The RLX uses electric motor to torque fill the NA engine, and to help torque vectoring. Judging by how compact the V6 engine is (looks similar to J-series angle), I would guess it is a single e-turbo. Has to be 48V if it is indeed e-turbo, and the question mark is what is providing the electricity to the turbo, and whether e-turbo has re-gen or not (MGU-H).

quantum7

https://carbuzz.com/news/leaked-2021...unning-concept

sorry if this is a repost but actual photos of inside and out....

04WDPSeDaN

iTrader: (1)

The more I look at the leaked 3.0T engine photo, the more I'm leaning towards E-turbo setup. On the passenger side front head, it looks like the 48-Volt system runs for the E-turbo. I would assume it will re-gen the battery. The ecu will determine when to send the electrical signal (assuming at low RPM) for instant boost (eliminate turbo lag), then the system will re-gen the battery as the exhaust keeps the turbo spinning at a certain rpm to red line. Again, all assuming. This is fairly new technology. E-turbos have been around since 2016-17 I believe. I think that's why Acura claims 50% more PEEK tq at lower RPM vs the current TLX V6 N/A motor. It's going to be fast off the line for sure.

internalaudit

E-turbo means no perceived lag. How is this different from a electric supercharger?

04WDPSeDaN

iTrader: (1)

Not to get into a long post.

E-turbo is still using the engines exhaust and has the 48V assistant to have instant boost (eliminate turbo lag) from the very beginning.
E-Superchargers no longer are belt driven, but the engine powers a small generator which in return is used to power the supercharger and does the same in theory, instant boost. The biggest difference is I believe Audi is the 1st to use this, they have an E-supercharger to eliminate turbo lag but still use a turbo system. I think E-superchargers are used with an actual turbo.

2012wagon

This is getting exciting. Can't wait for the reveal

technocrat

So the cats out of the bag

https://www.acura.com/future-vehicles/2021-tlx

Overall looks nice but those tail,lights remind of Fisker Karma :|

fiatlux

Uhhhh welcome to yesterday morning

technocrat