Taz69

I am one of the guys that will be buying the 2.0T Advance WITH OUT SH-AWD. Compared to the FWD im sure the drag times will be lower. SH-AWD sucks a lot more HP to work and weighs more. The Accord guys are running over 300hp and 340tq on the cars and it drives just fine. Get on some twisty roads and the SH-AWD might pull away if the driver is good enough. But be rolling along a 5 mph and kick it the lighter FWD version is going to pull you. All city driving. Highway driving. stomping on it from a roll the FWD is going to pull away. A lot less stuff to break down the road and that 2.0T with a flash and exhaust is only going to make just over 300hp and 340tq that is just fine with a FWD drive car. So I am going to be looking for a Graphite metallic Advance without sh-awd For handling you might want the testers with sh-awd but for drag time and 5-60 runs and 30-100 runs you want them in the FWD. You will also get better mpg without sh-awd. So it is a choice. It is not standard on the Advance you can order with or without. You can get the A-spec trim on a 2.0 without sh-awd. The Type-S its standard equipment and cannot be had without it.

Tesla1856

1. As you wish. Let us know how you like it.

2. I don't drag-race or do quarter-mile runs. However, I do tend to drive outside on roads and highways in the weather.

Speed_Racer

I like how you said twice "from a roll". I never appreciated SH-AWD until I got the same model FWD loaner from the dealer. From a stop getting the same traction isn't the same. I used to lose traction on the street striping at the stoplights/stop signs. I've got a heavy foot though but beyond that, SH-AWD feels so planted. Everyone's experience is different. I wouldn't get a TLX without SH-AWD anymore after having it my Aspec. I can't imagine the drag times being noticeably different.

Tesla1856

1. Exactly. It's all about CONTROL ( and traction). Sure, I can easily spin the front tires on my Accord-V6 FWD (easier with Traction-Control off) but now-days, I miss the point of purposely losing traction and control.

2. Agreed.

dmski

Hard pass on FWD. SH-AWD just feels so planted and where I live the weather is crap most of the year.

Taz69

I am not saying one is either right or wrong. Im just glad it is a option. To me there is more to break more to maintain with it. I live in NC and have a 4x4 truck to drive in snow.

Taz69

Just 1 more thing. Took me second to find it. There has been a guy in the RDX forum who dynoed his 2019 A-spec with sh-awd in the AWD mode. Every dyno video of the RDX and TLX every single one they are disabling the AWD and running in FWD only because they dont want to get there feelings hurt because it would be a much lower number. He should get a kudos for doing it the correct way. So he has on his car ( Custom intake, Full custom exhaust from the down pipe back, and a RV6 down pipe) He also has a custom tune which usually a tuner can make more power vs a K-Tuner stage 2. Basic tune you just flash to your car. So with all this bolt on and a custom tune he mad 267hp and 334tq in AWD mode. The Accord same engine just FWD only on a k-tuner stage 2 basic tune makes 275hp and 330tq. So it would appear that all those bolt ons get you the same to the wheels that a bone stock 2.0T engine makes. Some might not notice. Some might not care. So I am glad it is a option but AWD sucks HP to do its thing.

jhb31

I have had both variants of the TLX (both V6). No way I would ever opt for the FWD variant again. Dry roads or wet roads its night and day IMO. I rarely drive in the snow but do drive in the rain. I think the SHAWD was like an additional $1800 option (if you paid full price for it). Can't think of any other option that's a better deal on the car for the money.

leomio85

Dynos are a tuning tool used for gauging increase in power. Unless these were dyno’d on the same dyno, I would throw those numbers in the garbage if you’re using them for comparison as they’re worthless.

Tesla1856

Yes, the Parchment leather is nice. That's what I have in my white Accord-V6 ... I think it's a classy-looking combo and everything stays cool (as possible, like after parking-lot sun).

Barbecue Tech Tips

I am also going Advanced trim with out SH-awd. AWD is a waste of time to me and just adds more weight and complexity. Not counting zapping power, MPG, and more wear & tear. I plan going for Hondata flash and exhaust to make the type S irrelivent. I have already picked out forged wheels to put on the car once I figure out offset and width.

04WDPSeDaN

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can't wait to see your build!

Which forged wheels? I was going to buy forged wheels for my M40i but I had a very hard time deciding what looked best. I grabbed a fresh set of 20 inch OEM wheels instead

KeithL

yeah, after driving RWD Infiniti and Audi Quattro and SH-AWD never going back to FWD.

Barbecue Tech Tips

I'll go with Work D9R forged wheels once I figure out offset and width. Torn between matt bronze or GT silver, what color you guys think?

GhostTL09

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WOW look at the base Canadian wheel hahaha
US wheel will be just as ugly even if it is different.
Looks like 17s

Jiten Patel

Base looks horrible in my opinion but the A-Spec is looking beautiful.

Tesla1856

It doesn't look as bad here, but I wonder if some of these pics are Photoshopped ? (or computer generated for the online-builder) .

https://acurazine.com/forums/second-.../#post16626971

The Base wheels are only 18-inches. If you look closely, you CAN see the matching Base 18-inch tires are thicker. Give and take so all models have same ride-height ?

I really don't think the Base model is going to be popular (and neither does Acura) because it's missing leather-seats and on-board NAV.

Legend2TL

Typically I'm not into body and wheel color matching but that gun metal gray looks stunning for both the wheels and really accents the body side flow/creases.

Tony Pac

agreed! Looks amazing

AcuraFan1980

Wow that looks hideous. Guess we will know more when reviews come out and show base models

04WDPSeDaN

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AWESOME! I'm a huge fan of WORK wheels. You may understand why

Jiten Patel

Question about Canadian trims.
Has anyone else noticed that "Power Folding Mirrors" is not seen in any of the trims? Has it maybe been made standard or is Canada not getting this?

cruiserchuck

Acura‘s Canada website mentions reverse gear tilt down, not folding. That may be all you can get.

pyrodan007

Really hope that's a mistake. Pretty sure my 15 advance/elite had it. Useful in winter when parking on side streets to avoid getting ripped off by snowplow. Can be done manually, but with ice it's nice not to have to move too much lol.

KeithL

I live in Atlanta and SH-AWD just drives better, what sucks is Acura has sucked at really selling SH-AWD for it handling overall which makes SH-AWD harder to get here.

Tesla1856

Someone here recently said the snow-plows are the main reason yall get Power Folding Mirrors on lower-trims and we don't.

Ludepower

Power folding mirror is a blessing when parking into my tight ass parking stall.

Also people don't whack the mirrors with their bodies walking in between when parked.

GhostTL09

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The problem is being in NJ snow plows come down my streets just like in Canada ehh, so it doesn't really make sense.

GhostTL09

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I had a FWD 2010 TL plenty if power, then a 2012 SHAWD Advance. The feel was night and day, and I cornered the hell out of that car hahaha

AcuraGuy2016

That was a big disappointment with the 1G TLX. Many if not most 1G TLX AWD owners had serious highway vibration issues on the 1G, which is why I only looked at the FWD. Otherwise it would have been AWD hands down.

AcuraGuy2016

What do we expect the reliability to be on a 2G TLX? I notice the reliability for the 2015 TLX is listed as poor but the reliability for the 2019 and 2020 TLX is listed as good. The reliability for the 3G RDX is listed as poor?

GhostTL09

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Everything is essentially "all new" so who knows. The 99-03TL had transmission issues.....The 04-05TL had transmission (major) and leaking power steering issues. 4G TL had torque convertor, prop shaft (major) Oil burning issues, 1G TLX has suffered through (major) transmission, vibration, slow tech response issues. You kinda see where this is trending. We need people to put it on the road to find out

2G TLX....? Would be nice if it's just a window regulator has to be swapped out lol

Jiten Patel

Power folding mirrors help when backing in and out of a garage as well, it would be unfortunate that Canadians don't get this. My 2G RDX has it...

fiatlux

What’s that saying again? When you buy a Honda, you’re buying an engine and they throw in the rest of the car for free?

AcuraGuy2016

Using that logic for the 3-4G TL and 1G TLX, would be to avoid the first two MY of a redesign and possibly just wait for the MMC. That seemed to do it for all of them except for the vibrations in the AWD 1G TLX which still happen on 19-20MY.

GhostTL09

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However people rave about the 10speed so it may not have the same fate. Acura may have gotten it right this time.

fiatlux

Sure, but that doesn’t mean there may not be other teething pains in the first year models. We still don’t know whether the limp mode issue that RDX and Accord 2.0T owners have found have been resolved.

GhostTL09

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I agree, isn't there a class action against Acura right now for that? Limpy Mode lol, that's crazy to have a brand new 40k+ vehicle just stall out smh

cruiserchuck

The US owner’s manual mentions power folding mirrors, with an asterisk indicating available on some models.

Barbecue Tech Tips

These color pallets are hot garbage. Poor choice on Acuras part.

I'm stuck going either Modern Steel Saddle or Platinum white for Parchment.