Acura is correct the optional M340 wheels are 19”. Dealers sell 3rd party 20” wheels made by BMW suppliers.

Biggest pure stock non optional wheels in the 3/4 series cars are the “M” 3/4 series stagger.

Front 19” 275/35 X Rear 20” 285/30

 

Not True, You can get a 795 M performance wheel as an option right from BMW. In fact BMW Sells an M Performance M340i in Canada in which these are the only wheels that come on the car. In fact a friend of Mine ordered his M340i from BMW with these wheels as an option. You can also order these for the M240i.


https://www.shopbmwusa.com/PRODUCT/6...LETE-WHEEL-SET

 

Well the good thing is, you can't really abuse it. You can only do what the ECU allows you to do, and it will never allow abuse. It will allow driving it hard or "spiritedly" but not abuse. Can you downshift into 2nd at 75 mph? Can you rev the shit out of it and bang it off the rev limited? Nope. So buying used is a fairly safe bet. The only new car never to buy used in USA is manual. For some reason, drivers in US think manual is another word to be an idiot. In EU, it's completely normal (and safe) to assume that manual cars were driven normally, with the exception of 20+ year old Alfa Romeo cars. You can't even abuse the suspension in turns because traction control will cut power (you can never really turn it off - see Type S video from Throttle House). I guess you could ram the car into curbs and huge potholes if you really wanted to prove a point that you can abuse the car but that would be a case more for a psychiatrist, not a mechanic.

 

What we stated is still true, there is no factory option for 20" wheels. You can purchase a expensive set of $4k 20" wheels as an accessory (listed on your link as "Accessories/Wheels and Wheel Accessories/Wheel and Tire Sets") through BMW but they are not a factory option which for the 19" wheels are a much more affordable $600 since they're just swapping out 18" for 19". Again those 20" wheels are dealer/factory accessory wheels, same as Acura or MB or ...

 

LOL speaking of Slow Sam, apparently he just bought an IS500.

This same tool complained that the RC-F (with the same exact engine as the IS500) was "slow as fck" and would rather buy a Type S.

And of course, the obligatory AcuraProTony claim that aged like milk:
Hey @SamCarLegion , where you at? Why'd you go and buy a car that's slow as fck? Why didn't you buy the Type S?

 

Oh the times when 13 seconds is “slow as Fck”. W why are you always so angry lol

 

Don't confuse my snark and pettiness for anger .

Why don't you ask Sam why he thought the RC-F was "slow as fck"? I know I did and he never gave me an answer...and I think he ran away from the forum like a frenchman (actually funnily enough I think he's from Quebec and has an accent so he might actually have some french in him)

 

He’s not here is he? Only those not involved in your claims obsession of remembering what former users said 1 year ago as if feelings were hurt and looking for payback. He’s not here to hear your outcry.

 

Ok, let’s all take it down a notch or two.

 

He’s calling you out for being wrong like you claim Sam was. You like to correct others but don’t like it when you are?

I saw that post originally. I just ignored that claim and knew the credibility of the poster. That was not the only time he was wrong and I stopped correcting him.

 

No, he's calling me out because you thought I thought a 13-second car is "slow as fck". Then he took it and ran with it without bothering to check the context becuase it fits the narrative he has in his head about me. I do feel flattered that he thinks about me so much though.

The difference between me and Sam is that Sam is a "public figure" of sorts. He has an entire "legion" of fans to share his (poorly opinionated) thoughts with. Me? I'm just one random guy on the internet shouting into the wind at nothing in particular .

 

Trying not to split hairs but that whole package is a very limited Canada marketing deal. It includes individual paint & upholstery.

You will not get those wheels on A regular M340 without buying a set & taking off the stock wheels.

Go into most dealers & they will have a wall with all kinds of wheels you can buy. They are BMW parts but not “options” for standard cars.

Had something similar in 2011 with the 335is a limited production special. The N54 engine, 7DCT & a few other items were not available on any other 335.

 

That's what Acura said when they were developing the Type S.

 

Imagine if they hadn’t. The drag race patrols world salivate. Not bad stock anyhow, tons of playability stock. It’s a shame lower gears are torque limited but it is what it is. I’m not a drag racer.

Would be interesting to see tuning potential once the flash tunes are finalized.

 

I thought we had moved on, was a nice couple weeks. In the low mid 50’s the type S is a good buy and perfectly relitive to equally priced cars. Over 60g there are better cars. I dont really get why anyone would complain. I guess the EXPECTATION that it would be way better then every car for a lot less money is what has some people sour. Be a realist, if a car costs less, its probably not going to be as good as a car that costs more. That can be said about almost everything in existance. If Acura decided they were going to charge 8-10g more for the type S they could have done a lot more things with it. They didnt go to that price point (and im glad they didnt because i wouldnt have bought one at 60+) so its performance is pretty much where it should be.

ya Kia wouldn’t advertise the stinger on a race track, that kind of b.s. marketing is saved for Acura /S














“Sporty” cars get advertised on racetracks. Thats car law.

 

I really don't see the difference, I got my car through a broker and the dealer sent over an M Performance parts itemized form and I added "M performance parts" to be put on at the port. These wheels were also an option and if leasing you will not pay full retail only a portion over the life of the lease just like the M Performance Exhaust, Side skirts, front lip, etc etc. The Only reason I didn't add these wheels was because of the roads here are terrible and the ride would be unbearable.

 

Realy did not want to split hairs over this.

You are correct as a knowledgeable buyer that there is a msport parts list.

Thats where the confusion arises. Most buyers are not.
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Second part is only items in the regular configuration build page and are installed before the car leaves the factory are classified as options.

The rest of the stuff are dealer installed accessories even if they are port installed. Every BWM I bought has had port installed performance parts.

You are also correct that they are a really great deal on a lease.

Full factory warranty, become part of the invoice so they are discounted right along with the car, no dealer install charges.

Have always advised guys on the forum to buy the Mperformance parts that way,

 

The number of qualifiers you needed to use in that comment clearly show that 20" wheels are not a factory option.

 

All of the above listed I don’t see the 20” wheels as a big deal.

The 20” can be problematic. They ride hard & are easy to damage on poor roads. Even 19” wheels are a risk

Will admit I buy 19” for looks but we have really good roads here even the two lane blacktop that the moonshiners used to run.

To forestall any wannabe comments my car runs 19” in front & 20” in back factory stock.

Would have been just as happy if they had been 18/19

 

"Factory option" is an elastic concept. There is a major difference in the degree of choice/customization car manufacturers offer to their customers.

The traditional American manufacturers offered customers the ability to select from a long a la carte list of choices to order a car. Potentially, thousands of one model could be assembled with no two alike. It's been a long time since I bought an "American" car (ignoring the fact that my TL Type-S was designed in California and built in Ohio with a greater percentage of US content than any Big Three model that year) so I don't know how much choice they offer today.

Honda/Acura arrived with a business model of making automobiles with a limited number of trims and a fairly small number of color combinations. Over the years they have added to a growing list of dealer accessories, mostly cosmetic and seemingly serving to generate extra profit for the dealers. Among the reasons I decided against the new TLX-S was some features I wanted weren't included, although they were in the Advance package, and the very limited color choices. While there were a couple of upholstery and paint choices I considered acceptable, they either were not available on the Type-S or in combination.

Then there's BMW. The Build it tool on the website is merely the tip of a very large iceberg. The M-Sport catalog of items that can be port installed at the Vehicle Processing Center, while extensive, is just a bit more of the iceberg. There's another Individual Manufaktur website that allows you to select from a palette of about 100 paints as well as many additional upholstery leather/color choices. If that isn't enough, they will match the color to a paint chip you supply.
The rest of the iceberg is the M-Sport facility in Garching bei München where they will engrave your dash, embroider your upholstery or do any customization that is legal and doesn't affect the vehicles certifications. You also have to be able to afford it.
I believe Porsche and Mercedes have similar programs.

This Monday, after 195 days, I finally received my Individual Manufaktur M550ix with full carmel Merino leather, Aventurin II red metallic and custom engraved wood.

 

This video is sad but nails it:
No doubt Kia wants to put Stinger to sleep lol!

The review is harsh and don't watch it if you are sensitive

 

Didn't you just post thist last week?

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Beautiful!!! Safe to say that if something like the M550i is on your shopping list then, Acura products wouldn’t be much of a consideration…..even with current attempts at separating itself from Honda branded offerings.

 

Actually, the new TLX Type-S was my default 1st choice. I loved my '07 and followed the new one's arrival eagerly. When my dealer called me last year to say his demo had arrived and I could come drive it I went over the next day fully expecting to buy one. For a variety of reasons I wrote about at the time I was disappointed and decided to explore my options. Having previously owned and greatly enjoyed a couple of Jaguars I checked out their sedans, but they not only dropped the supercharged V8, but the V6 as well, leaving an I4 as the sole surviving sedan engine. Audi's have never really appealed, and Lexus grills offend my eyes. I never considered the Koreans. But I did drive a BMW for the first time. It was a 540, which was the closest in size and weight to the Type-S externally, but roomier on the inside. I really liked the way it drove and it had all the features I wanted. Then I made the mistake of driving a CPO M550 and fell in love. Plus, I was already a little nervous about the weird 48v mild hybrid system in the 540ix.
So, my OCD went into overdrive. I figured what the hell - at my age and the way the auto industry is headed this was probably my last shot at a high performance V-8 IC sedan, so it might as well be a great one.

 

Hey Mike the car is outstanding. They really did a great job with it. Looks like it was well worth the wait.

Congratulations & Enjoy

 

These YouTube reviewers are as fickle as a teen Prom Queen.

Remember when Red Lines Mr. Bey was the hero of the forum with his staged beat down of the Audi & the up the hill down the hill 0-60 nobody could match?

Seems like someone got dumped by Mr.Bey. He has a new best friend the 2022 Stinger GT2

Tells how it has features the Type S does not have and how it’s faster with German tech & so on.

Seems like Mr. Bey thinks the KIA puts the Type S to sleep

 

My bad...I just posted it last week without watching the video. But this time, I took the time and watched the video. it was too good I will ask to delete the other one. Thanks for reminder!

 

Then how do you explain this from acura.com? Those dummies at Acura marketing don't even know that the M340i is not a V6, but an inline 6.

EDIT: OOPS! I see this has been covered previously.

 

 

Someone reposting the straight pipes TLX review in 3...2...1...

 

Someone reposting another complaint about marketing or commenting on a post from a year ago in 3…2…1…

 

someone should count the number of complaints from people that they want to make Acura great again LMAO!
Do you have any plan to buy an Acura? NO
Do you own an Acura? NO
Do You like the brand? NO

What are you doing here and spending 8 hours as full time job at an Acura forum?

"I am a true enthusiast, and I wan to make Acura great again!"

 

Do you have any plan to buy an Acura? I was considering a new one but open to a used one, as for the most part I like the previous generation of the lineup better.
Do you own an Acura? Yup.
Do You like the brand? Mixed feelings on where its headed and it needs to refocus and pick a lane, as it doesn't seem to do any one thing too well despite its claims.

 

What qualifiers? When shopping around to order my car Prior to a Broker, every dealer gave me the option of an M Performance Parts list. It wasn't even something I had to ask for. If you order a car through the dealer you will get the option to add on additional items.

 

This was my first BMW so I actually knew nothing about M Performance parts until the dealer showed me a parts list. There is no way I could order a BMW and not add these items. It totally transforms the look of the car.

 

Simple, factory option versus dealer accessory. You claimed the Acura website vehicle comparison not being truthful but in fact they are for 2 of the 3 comparisons you stated. 20" and carbon spoilers are not available from BMW factory, sure the dealership can install it but dealers are allowed to sell a wide range of accessories. The comparison was all about factory options which is factual, except for the wireless charging which was not available in 2021 (IIRC due to a shortage of Infineon Technologies wireless charging chip). That is false on the Acura website, but the other two are true.

 

yes, it was a nice two weeks of 2G owners relating to their experiences and not folks rehashing their age old complaints from the past. Also agree the TLX-S is a good buy and in the long run will probably provide lower cost of ownership and be on the road long after their competition has faded away with miles and age.

And yes, so true with that last statement

 

I’m not sure if it still applies today, but BMW dealers used to offer Dinan products (exhaust, tube, intake, etc). It’s not a factory option but was BMW-approved and provided substantial difference in driving dynamics. Same goes for JCW tuning kits for the Minis. If you cannot build a car with the parts, it’s not optional from factory.

 

Does it really matter that Acura says they offer a certain wheel size and their competitor doesn't? The real facts are that Acura didn't produce a sport sedan that was competitive to the competition, plain and simple. They can argue they offer better customizable options, but at the end of the day its erroneous. The Type S is the slowest in the segment even though they tried to fudge the results, shame on them. They have to market their car so it sells, that's the game every manufacture plays.

 

Not everyone is a magazine racer. They just enjoy the ride without the “I’m the fastest on the road” mentality.