CPR

Yesterday, for the 1st time in over 10 years, I got a FLAT tire. Long story short; I was coming out of my Brother in-laws' hose at 9PM. TPM said there was 0% tire pressure, in my left rear. Called AcuraLink, & they dispatched someone within 40 minutes; great guy; knew his stuff. Pulled a piece of metal out, & informed me that the "gook" sealer probably, wouldn't hold for my 25 mile trip. He proceeded to try & mount my donut; to my amazement it didn't fit. He then proceeded to insert a plug, & told me to get home ASAP, after inserting 45psi of air. So this just proves that a spare is needed, no matter what the auto mfr's say. Hopefully, the LS2 can be repaired today; if not, gotta get a new one. Anyway, kudo's to the Acura tow-truck guy, who was a total pro.

CPR

Update: Acura service cfalled to tell me the doughnut was the right size, on the wrong size rim; (17" instead of 18"). They're replacing for free. The bad news: Rear tire is NOT repairable, by patch or plug; sidewall damage; $189, for a new Eagle LS2

spoiler900

Wait so you bought a spare tire kit for your V6 18" rims but they gave you 17" instead? Why did it not fit?... wrong rim as in different lug nuts, and this was installed by an Acura dealer?

99CL

The 17 still should fit but just smaller diameter.

I just checked my spare and it's a 17. I have a AWD, which the kit shows 18. crap.

TacoBello

How can you have the right sized tire, on the wrong sized rim? That's impossible.

TacoBello

I believe that with AWD, you NEED the same size tire diameter per front or rear of the car. If they're uneven, it can cause problems to the system, big time. Or so I've heard.

CPR

Installed by my Acura dealer; they actually gave it to me for FREE, after I complained to the GM. I'm a good customer, & they didn't want to upset me.
Anyway, the service tech told me this moring, it was the right doughnut, on the wrong rim. Anyway, they ordered the right rim, & I'll have it tomorrow; no charge

99CL

So the tire wasn't on the rim? The 17 shouldn't fit on the 18 or vi-versa.

CPR

No; the tire was mounted on the rim; but the holes on the rim, didn't correlate, & fit the steel lugs. I guess the !7", & 18" have different holes

thoiboi

Different bolt pattern you mean?


So they gave you the wrong spare altogether..?

CPR

That's what I thought; but the tech says that the spare WILL FIT the 18" rim. I'm sure, they'll try mounting it, before delivery. maybe the doughnut fits different size rims; who knoes

CPR

Some good news: the dealer only charged me $164 for the new GY Eagle LS2; mounted, high speed balancing, & TPM sensor; good deal!

Quandry

As long as the dealer is looking after you the details are not really important but seems like a lot of misinformation being communicated.

1. An 18" spare tire should not fit or be suitable for a 17" rim. My speculation is they originally gave you a spare rim for a 4G TL with a TLX sized tire, but the bolt pattern is different. The TLX should be able to use a 17" rim with the correct bolt pattern.

2. Replacing the tire would not require a new TPMS, so stating that it was included seems to overstating what they were providing.

spoiler900

This thread got me thinking so I checked my spare tire
I have the SH-AWD model and am worried about difference in diameter with the spare

Standard size is 225/50/18
My spare says 135/80/17

Tire calculator shows a 5.2% difference (26.9 vs 25.5)

Is this right?

CPR

I'm going to the dealer on Saturday, to have the Doughnut, mounted on the new rim; I'll report back next week with the details

Quandry

Your calculations are correct. Remember that the spare is to be driven at a lower speed and just far enough to get you to the tire shop. It is fine.

MikeM95831

I want to get the spare tire kit for my TLX. I've checked on-line, and it looks like it should be about $275, delivered. I figured my dealer would be pretty close, so I asked today. $505! That's nuts. They talked about installation, but... Take a panel out that needs to be removed to get to the spare?

Any thoughts on that price? Seems like the kind of thing a dealer would do to people who refuse to research anything.

EricInMaryland

You should be sure its the complete kit. I see there are three components each with their own part number: Tire, rim/kit, lid.
$369 MSRP (presume that for all 3)

MikeM95831

http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/acura/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&catcgry1=TLX&catcgry2= 2015&catcgry3=4DR+TECH&catcgry4=KADCT&catcgry5=TEM PORARY+WHEEL+KIT&ListAll=All&vinsrch=no&systemcomp =List%20All&vinnoT=&trim=&trans=&view=normal

MikeM95831

Just thought I'd mention that my kit arrived from Peoria, AZ, and has been installed. It came with everything needed EXCEPT the tire, which I what I was expecting. For the tire, I went to America's Tire, since they are one of the few local retailers that carries the right one.

The "installation" was barely an installation. It's more like putting stuff in the trunk. The new insert even gives you a place to put the inflator kit.

So this was $300 to do it myself, vs. $504 the dealer quoted me. $300 right on the head, actually. I think it's worth it; I can see how using it once, if the circumstances were right, would save $300.

The one time I really needed a spare was on a remote stretch of 97, between Bend and The Dalles. No cell phone, so I doubt AcuraLink would work there. I bet it would have taken hours and a lot of money to get out of that pickle.

It's good insurance. Get the spare. DIY-it. That's my advice.

reddogTL

I just went through all of this(just installed everything in my trunk yesterday to be exact).

There are 2 different part numbers for the Acura TLX Spare Tire Kit's.
SH-AWD Part # 06421-TZ3-A90ZA 18"
FWD Part # 06421-TZ3-A50ZA 17"

Neither kit includes the tire, which is sold separately. There is a Honda part # however for just their tire but I used tirerack instead with correct size and speed ratings.

I also thought the dealer was nuts for $500+.

I purchased the SH-AWD kit for $213.17 from Berardiparts.com. $227.91 shipped from MA to NJ which was pretty cheap considering the total weight & size of the box that came in.
acura.berardiparts.com

I ordered the Kumho 135/80R18 tire from Tirerack for $85 shipped.

The hardest part of the kit is replacing the rear plastic trim piece when you open the trunk. There's 6 green clips that you have to pull up on the trim piece to popout. Took me all of 45 seconds to get this piece off.(left side was easier to pop up for some reason)
Other than that you're just swapping parts.

rocket_pup

You mean to tell me you had to pay $189 for a hella crappy @ss tire? I upgraded my tires to Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 (19") for about the same price!

It sounds like you got that tire quote from an Acura dealer. The Eagle LS-2 @ tirerack dot com is $137: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....autoModClar=V6

If this is the case or not, never get tires from the dealer!

rocket_pup

Do you notice any change in handle characteristics with this kit installed? All said and done, how much weight do think the kit and donut added?

MikeM95831

I put some Generals on my Maxima, and they are really good. Consider this alternative as well.

General G-MAX AS-03

MikeM95831

Even with the 4-cylinder Tech, it only adds 50 lbs, at most. You just can't feel 50 lbs in a 3,400 lb car. I couldn't tell the slightest difference.

I put the kit in the same night I installed the Curt trailer hitch. Note that I do not intend to tow with this car; that would be foolish. I will, however, but a couple $3,000 bikes on it a few times a year. Two bikes with a hitch rack adds MAYBE 100 lbs back there. You just can't feel that. Plus, this is vastly preferable to inside the car, or on a trunk-mounted rack.

I'm only mentioning this because between the hitch and the spare kit, I added probably 100 lbs. Couldn't tell any difference.

rocket_pup

So when you swap out the trim and insert the spare into the truck, is there a spot for the air compressor / fix-a-flat kit?

MikeM95831

Yup. It's really cool. You do lose the "hiding place" back there, but who cares?

You then get to figure out what to do with the old insert. My advice: Just give it to the dealer. They'll have a use for it probably within a week (customer damaged their own insert, or whatever).

rocket_pup

No offense, but General is a second tier tire, like Falken and Kumho.

http://www.moderntiredealer.com/arti...ire-tier-three

MikeM95831

To be honest -- and I promise not to go SIWOTI on you, because this is a matter of opinion -- that sounded like salesman talk to me. I just went with the TireRack ratings when I put tires on my Maxima, and they were great tires. Long-lasting, handled great, and so forth. Someone finally took the car off-road, and the tires "chipped". It took to about 50k miles, and they finally looked too dangerous to me. So I put on a second set of Generals.

As for my car, it's 17" wheels. They were ranked 5 out of 38. Great reviews.

Notice that the LS2 is far down in the rankings. So yes, I'm sticking with the theory that these Generals are an upgrade from the LS2. While it's true it's not hard to upgrade from an LS2, it's also true that these tires are far up in the rankings.

FWIW.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...toModClar=4cyl

rocket_pup

Yeah, I don't know how such a terrible tire carries the Goodyear name and it's NOT CHEAP either. The Bridgestones are not that much better either. It sounds like you're better off with the Generals.

Actually, it's funny you mention "salesman" because tire "tiers" are basically based on the tire company's size and overall sales, not necessarily the specific tire models. But to some, when you say you have Michelin's, they think they're all great tires.

It's almost like which is a better suit: Armani or Gucci?
Or which is a better shoe: Adidas or Nike?

MikeM95831

Our Maxima actually came with Michelins. They were simply awful. They did one thing well: They lasted a long time. In every other respect, they were just dismal. Replaced those with Yokohamas; night and day.

From what I have been able to gather about the LS2s, not only do they not work well, but they wear out fast too. Bonus! I had Comfortreads on our Prius; great tires.

rocket_pup

This thread has changed my mind about a spare tire. Someone posted a link for the TLX spare tire kit. It was informative, but I found a vendor that is less expensive both in item cost and shipping: http://www.acurapartswarehouse.com/o...2c118;et=1%2c9)

rocket_pup

Here are the official installation instructions, also: http://www.acurapartssuperstore.com/...-base-tech.PDF

rocket_pup

There's a 17" kit (06421-TZ3-A00ZA)
and 18" kit (06421-TZ3-A50ZA)

Both do not come with a tire.

I found an 18" kit on Ebay (for a dealer) for $236.85.

Now I just need to find a good compact spare. I like the Conti (ContinentalCST 17) and I'm trying to find a better price.