TLX with Goodyear tires?
#1
Burning Brakes
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TLX with Goodyear tires?
So by looking at a TLX photo in the Style magazine, TLX comes with a set of Goodyear tires, at least on the stock 17"s. So Acura is moving away from Michelin?
I was personally hoping they would replace the rough and noisy Pilot HX MXM4 with the new Primacy MXM4 (like they did with the 2013 RDX). There is nothing in the current Goodyear lineup that I like except for the Comfortred.
Thoughts?
I was personally hoping they would replace the rough and noisy Pilot HX MXM4 with the new Primacy MXM4 (like they did with the 2013 RDX). There is nothing in the current Goodyear lineup that I like except for the Comfortred.
Thoughts?
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lol why are you speculating on a vehicle that hasnt even come out yet!?!??!
geez.
plus, every one knows auto manufactures save money by putting on a crappy tire.
even if they move, (look at the key word "if', we're speculating again) i guarantee it will be a base crappy tire
geez.
plus, every one knows auto manufactures save money by putting on a crappy tire.
even if they move, (look at the key word "if', we're speculating again) i guarantee it will be a base crappy tire
#3
Burning Brakes
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Well, if the TLX doesn't come with Goodyear tires, why would they take a photo with them???
Not all OEM tires are bad. Primacy MXM4s are good. Pilot HX MXM4 are bad and definitely NOT cheap.
Not all OEM tires are bad. Primacy MXM4s are good. Pilot HX MXM4 are bad and definitely NOT cheap.
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simply put, we're speculating.
we dont know the brand of tires that are gonna come stock on the TLX.
and it shouldnt matter, as most vehicles in this segment comes with some crappy all season
we dont know acura's intention.
we do not know what tire acura is gonna pair the TLX with.
wait till the vehicle comes out, then we can talk
#5
Suzuka Master
Didn't the TL only come with Michelins in the Tech or better configs? I thought I saw base TLs with Goodyears for a few years. My guess is the Tech configs offer theme nought profit headroom the cam step up the quality of the tire.
#6
Burning Brakes
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My last loaner was a base TL and it came with Bridgestone Turanza I think. Some 4G TL SHAWD come with Goodyear Eagle RSAs which are pretty bad according to Tirerack. I just hope Acura sticks with Michelin Primacy MXM4s.
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They were available on both the base and the SH-AWD models (MMC) depending on what package you had. I know the SH-AWD offered them on the Advance package with 245/40/19
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I thought the 19 inches come with the Eagle RS-A already?!? It would make sense for Acura to come out with Goodyear given how they have cheapen the RLX on pretty everything so far
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lol why are you speculating on a vehicle that hasnt even come out yet!?!??!
geez.
plus, every one knows auto manufactures save money by putting on a crappy tire.
even if they move, (look at the key word "if', we're speculating again) i guarantee it will be a base crappy tire
geez.
plus, every one knows auto manufactures save money by putting on a crappy tire.
even if they move, (look at the key word "if', we're speculating again) i guarantee it will be a base crappy tire
why did they market the prototype in all commercials? but the production vehicle looks different?
simply put, we're speculating.
we dont know the brand of tires that are gonna come stock on the TLX.
and it shouldnt matter, as most vehicles in this segment comes with some crappy all season
we dont know acura's intention.
we do not know what tire acura is gonna pair the TLX with.
wait till the vehicle comes out, then we can talk
simply put, we're speculating.
we dont know the brand of tires that are gonna come stock on the TLX.
and it shouldnt matter, as most vehicles in this segment comes with some crappy all season
we dont know acura's intention.
we do not know what tire acura is gonna pair the TLX with.
wait till the vehicle comes out, then we can talk
Dude, just chill.
It does come with G/Y tires.
#14
Burning Brakes
^^^^^
Haven't seen that photo before. Thanks for sharing. It clearly has Goodyear tires on the ugliest wheels Acura has put out in my opinion. I hope those are only for the base 4 cylinder without the Tech package. Interesting coffee/brown color though. Kind of cool actually.
Haven't seen that photo before. Thanks for sharing. It clearly has Goodyear tires on the ugliest wheels Acura has put out in my opinion. I hope those are only for the base 4 cylinder without the Tech package. Interesting coffee/brown color though. Kind of cool actually.
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Such a monstrosity!! I cannot understand how anyone would have allowed the production car have such ugly wheels!! It just kills the car......I almost swallowed my breakfast twice when I saw that photo!
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#17
Three Wheelin'
My 04 base had Bridgestone Turanza's. My 08 Tech and 10 Tech both came with the Michelins. I for one hope that Acura will upgrade the tires from Goodyear's if opting for more than the base model.
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Why stop here, you should go traffic cop the threads about cup holders that are covered or not covered, the shape of the vents in the dash, or myriad subjective comments. With your post count you should know this is the natural evolution of a forum subsection on a new model; 100% speculation yields eventually to 100% real world impressions, mods, issues, etc., give it some time.
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^its just pointless to speculate on a wear and tear item.
"oh noes, I hope they dont put this tire on that car!" 100% speculation.
100% real world results = will run the crappy tire to the ground in about 2 and a half years. give or take 30-50k miles. the AVERAGE consumer will then replace the crappy tires with equal or less than equal to the OEM equipment, with the enthusiast changing to a better compound tire.
then the cycle continues
Did I get it right?
"oh noes, I hope they dont put this tire on that car!" 100% speculation.
100% real world results = will run the crappy tire to the ground in about 2 and a half years. give or take 30-50k miles. the AVERAGE consumer will then replace the crappy tires with equal or less than equal to the OEM equipment, with the enthusiast changing to a better compound tire.
then the cycle continues
Did I get it right?
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Regardless of brand they usually put some poor excuse of a tire on there on any "volume" model line. The reason is because 99% of consumers don't know the difference in tires. They see "Goodyear" or "Michelin", they're happy. And the salesman gets to brag about it. These are not the regular consumer line of tires but a special one off type meant for volume cars. But the fact is they are almost all crap. The car manufacturers don't care, as long as they are associated with a name brand and whoever gives them the best price.
I know this because I used to sell tires long ago. And I find it HILARIOUS when a customer would walk in DEMANDING a SPECIAL order ONLY for the OEM tire. I would tell them that they are $250 a piece and overpriced (obviously they never go on sale). When I could put them in a MUCH better Michelin V-rated tire for $150 a piece. NOPE, they were not having it. Idiots.
Here's why the tire company plays this game. It's like this: The new car buyer is looking at the CAR. The tires are forgettable. As long as they are not Nankangs or Sumitomos or some weird brand they never heard, then they actually do look there. Those kind of names will make a consumer feel like the brand is cutting corners with a cheap tires (Even though those companies actually do make decent tires.). They expect to see Dunlop or Pirelli etc. Something they heard of. So to them there is no difference in Michelin or Goodyear. The difference in handling is minimal between any of these mediocre tires anyways.
But the CONSUMER tire market is different. They will make these tires different. Why? Because when they drive out of the tire shop they should feel the DIFFERENCE the TIRES make. In this case the consumer is not paying attention to the car but the TIRE. I agree Goodyear can make some crap tires if they want to. But the Goodyear F1 tires I have on right now are some of the best tires I have ever owned. WAY better than the OEM Yokohomas.
The exception of course is high end performance cars that go with Y or Z-rated rubber. Those will come with tires like with the consumer grade tires like the Michelin PS2 etc. The car is engineered and tested to specifically handle with these types of tires. Putting Nankangs or something else on there will definitely change the character of the car.
I know this because I used to sell tires long ago. And I find it HILARIOUS when a customer would walk in DEMANDING a SPECIAL order ONLY for the OEM tire. I would tell them that they are $250 a piece and overpriced (obviously they never go on sale). When I could put them in a MUCH better Michelin V-rated tire for $150 a piece. NOPE, they were not having it. Idiots.
Here's why the tire company plays this game. It's like this: The new car buyer is looking at the CAR. The tires are forgettable. As long as they are not Nankangs or Sumitomos or some weird brand they never heard, then they actually do look there. Those kind of names will make a consumer feel like the brand is cutting corners with a cheap tires (Even though those companies actually do make decent tires.). They expect to see Dunlop or Pirelli etc. Something they heard of. So to them there is no difference in Michelin or Goodyear. The difference in handling is minimal between any of these mediocre tires anyways.
But the CONSUMER tire market is different. They will make these tires different. Why? Because when they drive out of the tire shop they should feel the DIFFERENCE the TIRES make. In this case the consumer is not paying attention to the car but the TIRE. I agree Goodyear can make some crap tires if they want to. But the Goodyear F1 tires I have on right now are some of the best tires I have ever owned. WAY better than the OEM Yokohomas.
The exception of course is high end performance cars that go with Y or Z-rated rubber. Those will come with tires like with the consumer grade tires like the Michelin PS2 etc. The car is engineered and tested to specifically handle with these types of tires. Putting Nankangs or something else on there will definitely change the character of the car.
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Exactly. Look at people who have a car with anything rated above V rated. (BMW, Audi, MB etc.) A lot of these knuckleheads will cry because their tires last only 30k miles. I tell them, you did GOOD! Those tires don't even have a wearout warranty. They are expected to go only 20-30k. They are pissed because they remember their old Corolla or Accord tires that went to 60k. But if nobody tells them this they will cry and say, "Oh those tires SUCK!" And they will blame the whole BRAND when it doesn't always have everything to do with it. It's the car salesman's fault, he never tells them the ugly truth about the tires needing to be replaced quicker.
Because usually most people look at tires like the bottom of a sneaker.....like what's the difference? "They are made of rubber, they look the same to me!" Nope, it's where the rubber meets the road, it makes ALL the difference.
The auto manufacturer has 3 things to contend with for that choice in OEM tires: price, longevity, handling. The handling will get compromised the most, trust me. So to a tire manufacturer an OEM tire helps them sell volumeloads of tires yes. But it usually doesn't help their image.
When a person comes in to specifically buy the tire, they are focusing on that purchase. They are told what warranties are there and how long they will last. They actually put their money down. When people drive out with a fresh set they experience "SUCH a difference". So this is where people make an informed decision and they know the difference and they will associate that with a brand. This is why tire makers are aggressive and competitive on the tire salesfloor. They know that if they are the one lucky enough to sell to that customer, they probably have a customer for life.
Because usually most people look at tires like the bottom of a sneaker.....like what's the difference? "They are made of rubber, they look the same to me!" Nope, it's where the rubber meets the road, it makes ALL the difference.
The auto manufacturer has 3 things to contend with for that choice in OEM tires: price, longevity, handling. The handling will get compromised the most, trust me. So to a tire manufacturer an OEM tire helps them sell volumeloads of tires yes. But it usually doesn't help their image.
When a person comes in to specifically buy the tire, they are focusing on that purchase. They are told what warranties are there and how long they will last. They actually put their money down. When people drive out with a fresh set they experience "SUCH a difference". So this is where people make an informed decision and they know the difference and they will associate that with a brand. This is why tire makers are aggressive and competitive on the tire salesfloor. They know that if they are the one lucky enough to sell to that customer, they probably have a customer for life.
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I didnt say Hyundai or Kia. RLX AND 4GTL is what i said.
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Tires? Heck how about those valve stems? That's what I want to know. The prototype had such great valve stems. They were exciting and bold. They had chrome caps and the base of the valve stem has such a slight sexy curve. Now they are just blah. Black plastic caps and where is that curve? They look straight. It looks just like the Accord! What the ^%$#@ Acura! Just make it like the prototype. I'm NEVER going to buy this car now. They just made this whole car crap for me. And that damn TPMS... I don't want automatic tire pressure monitoring. I want manual tire pressure monitoring. All sporty cars have manual tire pressure monitoring. I will never buy a car with automatic tire pressure monitoring. Can't they make this an option? I will pay any amount for it. I can check the tire pressure better and faster myself. Acura has really lost their way. It is all Ito's fault. Where is the soul in those valve stems Mr Ito?!?!?! He needs to go now!
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Tires? Heck how about those valve stems? That's what I want to know. The prototype had such great valve stems. They were exciting and bold. They had chrome caps and the base of the valve stem has such a slight sexy curve. Now they are just blah. Black plastic caps and where is that curve? They look straight. It looks just like the Accord! What the ^%$#@ Acura! Just make it like the prototype. I'm NEVER going to buy this car now. They just made this whole car crap for me. And that damn TPMS... I don't want automatic tire pressure monitoring. I want manual tire pressure monitoring. All sporty cars have manual tire pressure monitoring. I will never buy a car with automatic tire pressure monitoring. Can't they make this an option? I will pay any amount for it. I can check the tire pressure better and faster myself. Acura has really lost their way. It is all Ito's fault. Where is the soul in those valve stems Mr Ito?!?!?! He needs to go now!
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Ugh.. the RLX is not an attractive car IMHO. Kinda like a big girl with a lotta ass but in the wrong place. No curves and the lines just don't work for me. My opinion though. I like the lines of the Gen 2's. The mass of metal grill on the gen3+ cars is not for me either.
Yes, the rims with the giant chrome valve stems poking out of the black is gawdawful.
Yes, the rims with the giant chrome valve stems poking out of the black is gawdawful.
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Tires? Heck how about those valve stems? That's what I want to know. The prototype had such great valve stems. They were exciting and bold. They had chrome caps and the base of the valve stem has such a slight sexy curve. Now they are just blah. Black plastic caps and where is that curve? They look straight. It looks just like the Accord! What the ^%$#@ Acura! Just make it like the prototype. I'm NEVER going to buy this car now. They just made this whole car crap for me. And that damn TPMS... I don't want automatic tire pressure monitoring. I want manual tire pressure monitoring. All sporty cars have manual tire pressure monitoring. I will never buy a car with automatic tire pressure monitoring. Can't they make this an option? I will pay any amount for it. I can check the tire pressure better and faster myself. Acura has really lost their way. It is all Ito's fault. Where is the soul in those valve stems Mr Ito?!?!?! He needs to go now!
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MuGen7 - LMAO...For me, drinking red wine makes me relaxed and sleepy so when I get pissed off and go on rants here, just remind me to reach for the glass *lol*
#38
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I would prefer the Michelin Primacy MXV4 over the MXM4. They're slightly cheaper, have better winter grip, and are rated better on tirerack.com.
The MXV4's are also the OEM tire that come on the 2013+ Honda Accord's with 17" wheels
The MXV4's are also the OEM tire that come on the 2013+ Honda Accord's with 17" wheels
#39
Tires, tires, tires - Simple buy the best according your environment and pay a bit more (saving on tires is the worse decision you can make). Why the best?
Because this is all you have between your car and the pavement!
Because this is all you have between your car and the pavement!
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I agree. However, the MXV4 is rated as the better tire and its cheaper. Best of both worlds