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Old 03-03-2015, 12:39 PM
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TLX February Sales

Infiniti Q50: 3,649
Acura TLX: 3,419
Lexus IS: 3,383

Japanese competitors are all selling within the same range!
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Surprised to see Infinity in front. I'd expect that to be Lexus, but then again the IS feel small inside compred to the TLX and also has a hideous front end IMO.
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Wow, Infinti hardly advertises too. I have been seeing more Q50s on the road. It was nice standing out for a while.
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For reference, sales stats February 2011 TSX + TL

TSX: 2794

TL: 2447
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Old 03-03-2015, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by saturno_v
For reference, sales stats February 2011 TSX + TL

TSX: 2794

TL: 2447
Combining two models into one has backfired. In the end, most former TSX owners like the TLX while most former TL owners dislike the TLX and think it is a step down (except for technology).
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it's still a bad month for all three auto manufactures. (weather being 1 factor. )

lets wait till spring time.
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Originally Posted by justnspace
it's still a bad month for all three auto manufactures. (weather being 1 factor. )

lets wait till spring time.
Amen my brother. Weather wasn't just 1 factor - it was THE factor. We had the coldest February of all time here in Ohio. Who wants to go car shopping when the temps are in the single digits???? Plus I have to believe some are waiting to drive the new ILX before making a decision.

That said - I think those numbers are decent.
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Weather wasn't just 1 factor - it was THE factor.
I say we blame Weather! That little French guy still hasn't bought a TLX yet!
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Originally Posted by justnspace
(weather being 1 factor. )
...leave me out of this!!

Colin...Excuse me but its "That cute little French guy still hasn't bought a TLX yet" to you (lol)
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^^ CUTE little Yellow French guy
Old 03-03-2015, 06:22 PM
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That surprises me. Q50 aren't even on the roads here in LA, while the new IS is all over the place.

Non scientifically, for LA I would have put the list:

1) IS (they are everwhere)
2) TLX (I hardly see a few a week)
3) Q50 (don't even see them-though they have great headlight/taillight when lit)
Old 03-03-2015, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jeremyw
Combining two models into one has backfired. In the end, most former TSX owners like the TLX while most former TL owners dislike the TLX and think it is a step down (except for technology).
I don't think it's that simple. I think many people are migrating to the new (again) cool thing the CUV/SUV.

American Honda Motor Co., Inc. today reported February Honda and Acura vehicle sales of 105,466 units, an increase of 5.0 percent versus February 2014. Sales of Acura light trucks set a new February record, rising 12.5 percent on sales of 8,415 vehicles. The Honda Division sold 92,474 vehicles in February—an increase of 4.1 percent for the month. The Acura brand posted sales of 12,992 units in February, rising 12.5 percent over the same period last year.

Trucks and SUV's are en vogue once again!
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I like the Q50 Sport styling, especially in the RWD with the sexy wheels but after checking one out this past weekend, I just didn't feel the passion.

It is all subjective that is just how I felt....I must say that the TLX sure got my passion going again, especially for the price and with the body kit. It is funny because from an exterior styling...the TLX is my favorite. From a driving experience, the IS wins.

Choices....choices....choices.

Maybe I should do like Sterling, get one of each *lol*
Old 03-03-2015, 07:52 PM
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Wow, Infinti hardly advertises too. I have been seeing more Q50s on the road. It was nice standing out for a while.
I saw a lot of advertising when they first came out about their super duper radar safety feature that detected a baby's burp 8 cars ahead. lol. Of course that was when they were having all their electronics issues and disaster of a launch. Now I don't see any commercials for the car, but I see their cars a lot. I would've bought one if it hadn't been for those electronic glitches. I'm sure they've knocked those out by now. Either that or they're discounting like crazy.
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not bad but Q50 above TLX is a bit shocking. TLX gotta pick up.

IS below both is even more shocking. I see IS everywhere
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Originally Posted by CheeseyPoofs McNut
Amen my brother. Weather wasn't just 1 factor - it was THE factor. We had the coldest February of all time here in Ohio. Who wants to go car shopping when the temps are in the single digits???? Plus I have to believe some are waiting to drive the new ILX before making a decision.

That said - I think those numbers are decent.
Sure let's blame the weather.....BMW buyers must have better winter coats then....

"February 2015: BMW USA sales increase 14.5%"

February 2015: BMW USA Sales increase 14.5 percent
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Originally Posted by jeremyw
Combining two models into one has backfired. In the end, most former TSX owners like the TLX while most former TL owners dislike the TLX and think it is a step down (except for technology).

This


SUVs never went out of fashion...big engines were for some for a while...but Acura has nothign to worry, no V8...
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Originally Posted by saturno_v
Sure let's blame the weather.....BMW buyers must have better winter coats then....
Or maybe because many BMWs are ordered and built, when the cars come in, people have to come in and pick them up?
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Originally Posted by Colin
Or maybe because many BMWs are ordered and built, when the cars come in, people have to come in and pick them up?

Sure...lots of GM on special order too...they do the Detroit delivery program now...

GM sales up 4% on strong truck results in February | MLive.com
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Just to put things in perspective, these were the previous sales numbers:

Jan 2015 2892
Dec 2014 3834
Nov 2014 4233
Oct 2014 4890
Sep 2014 3884
Aug 2014 2266

I am glad to see that the TLX numbers are picking up again!
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26.3% of Acura's sales were TLX. That's good.

March should be a big month. The weather will hopefully break - last March was a big month too because the weather broke.

Infiniti and Nissan do a lot of fleet sales in the first quarter of the year. Look at the Q50 last year:

Jan: 2949
Feb: 3275
March: 3795
April: 2626
May: 2928
June: 2423
July: 2461

Acura and Honda sale patterns are just different. Acura is up against a very big March: 15,580 units last year. The TLX will need to hit close to 4500 units and the ILX needs a huge push - both the MDX and RDX selling at record levels last March.
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Let's not forget that Infiniti still sells the G37 renamed as Q40 which compete with the Q50 on the low end for the budget conscious folks...they sold 1643 of them in January.

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Originally Posted by saturno_v
Let's not forget that Infiniti still sells the G37 renamed as Q40 which compete with the Q50 on the low end for the budget conscious folks...they sold 1643 of them in January.
Ok so taking all that into account, Infiniti is kicking butt
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Infiniti overall sedan sales for Feb are 6345, Acura 4577. However, overall sales show Infiniti at 11,659 vs. 12,992. As with many things, it's give and take. The question going forward will be whether the TLX+ILX (new) will outsell the Q50+Q40 and when the Q30 joins the fray? If the Q30 arrives at the same time as the rumored CDX for Acura, it will remain tight.
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Originally Posted by Colin
Infiniti overall sedan sales for Feb are 6345, Acura 4577. However, overall sales show Infiniti at 11,659 vs. 12,992. As with many things, it's give and take. The question going forward will be whether the TLX+ILX (new) will outsell the Q50+Q40 and when the Q30 joins the fray? If the Q30 arrives at the same time as the rumored CDX for Acura, it will remain tight.
The Infiniti sedans number is remarkable considering that the brand is not playing in the ILX space or the 4 cylinder TLX space....

Infiniti SUV offering is not very strong at the moment...the current QX70 is the best looking SUV on the market in my opinion (it will be totally redesigned next year) and it has the best "regular car feeling" driving experience (together with its little brother QX50 and the Audi SQ5) but cargo space is seriously lacking for its size....is not selling very well.

The QX50 is even worse...it's just a small raised hatchback and sales not great either.

Both the QX70 and QX50 are not very practical, they are at the end of their career (aged electronics) and the public is shunning them...I find Acura advantage in the SUV space totally understandable....kind of a mirror image of the Infiniti sedans advantage.

When I got my GC SRT, I cross shopped with the two last remaining 2014 QX70 V8 left in the country (V8 is not longer an option for MY 2015) but the lack of cargo space made me rethink.

Other contenders were the BMW X5 50i and the X5 M

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Originally Posted by jeremyw
Combining two models into one has backfired. In the end, most former TSX owners like the TLX while most former TL owners dislike the TLX and think it is a step down (except for technology).
First the weather has been a huge factor. And I do not fully agree that combining the models hurt them much. I do wish for the 4G size and from the outside the 5G presents itself well, but does look obviously smaller than the 4G. I prefer the 4G, M37/A6 size and the TLX comes across smaller regardless of what the dimensions say.
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Weather is a factor for TLX sales but not for Infiniti sales?
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Ok so taking all that into account, Infiniti is kicking butt
Go to any local carmax and look at their 15-20 off fleet/former rental car infiniti section. They do a very fleet based business. Acura is almost 100% retail sales, so def. hard to compare.
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Originally Posted by 2012wagon
Weather is a factor for TLX sales but not for Infiniti sales?
Agree it a non factor comparing same months sales since everybody has the same weather. Can/will effect current month to month & current month to last years month.

So far the sales have been declining & it looks like better lease/interest rates are now being offered. Our two local dealer each have about 100 cars in inventory. IMHO the spring buying season will be very important for the TLX

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Old 03-05-2015, 11:20 AM
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I have 3 dealers in about 24 miles of my house. They have a glut of 15 model years, that I am sure they will be dumping in no time, to make room for the 2016s.

SImilar to how guys paid 22K for fully loaded ILX few months back, when they were blowing out remaining 14s.
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Originally Posted by 2012wagon
Weather is a factor for TLX sales but not for Infiniti sales?
It's a well known but completely unsupported FACT that Acura dealers tend to be more Northern (cold/snow) as opposed to the girlie-man Infinity dealerships which tend to be more southern and, ipso facto, less affected by the weather. That's also (anecdotally) why Acura sells more SUV's.
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Originally Posted by CheeseyPoofs McNut
It's a well known but completely unsupported FACT that Acura dealers tend to be more Northern (cold/snow) as opposed to the girlie-man Infinity dealerships which tend to be more southern and, ipso facto, less affected by the weather. That's also (anecdotally) why Acura sells more SUV's.



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Originally Posted by CheeseyPoofs McNut
It's a well known but completely unsupported FACT that Acura dealers tend to be more Northern (cold/snow) as opposed to the girlie-man Infinity dealerships which tend to be more southern and, ipso facto, less affected by the weather. That's also (anecdotally) why Acura sells more SUV's.

What a grotesque explanation to say the least...have you checked the February weather in Dallas??

Infiniti has a stronger sedan offering where Acura as a stronger SUV offering...simple.
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Q50 is selling a bunch because you can get some great discounts off of msrp. for a same price as a TLX I4 Tech ($35k), you can get a Q50 Premium which is Japan build, RWD and V6.
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Originally Posted by 2012wagon
Weather is a factor for TLX sales but not for Infiniti sales?


Other things that only affect the TLX:
  • limited availability/production problems
  • recalls
  • stop sales
  • more competitive luxury market/offerings
  • not everyone wants to buy a 1st year car and be a beta tester
  • people want to compare newly updated 2016 ILX to TLX before buying
  • poor economy
  • slower month due to tax season
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slower month due to tax season
Laughable....according to the Jeep dealer where I bought my GC SRT, just the day before they sold 36 cars mainly because people had money burning their pockets because of tax refunds....
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Laughable....according to the Jeep dealer where I bought my GC SRT,.... people had money burning their pockets because of tax refunds....
But that's because they're a Jeep dealer. Reasons listed (and give in the past by TLX owners and not me) is exclusive to Acura and the TLX.
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