Tony Pac

December sales:3,834

Total 2014 TLX sales reached 19,127 since its mid-August market debut, with December sales limited only by tight supplies of key models.

Not bad for 4.5 months, almost 20,000 units sold. 2015 will be big!!!

Acura USA December 2014 Sales Results - Acura Connected

AZuser

Not bad vs competition, or not bad for Acura?

Tony Pac

I was referring to Acura, since the 4thG TL's sales were down. But also comparing to competition. Infiniti sold about 37,000 Q50 units for the entire year.

panamera125

Good for Acura! I see how this car makes a lot of sense to a lot of people.

LaCostaRacer

I see the TLX is outselling the sum of TL/TSX models from last year by a 1000 units per month: 3834 .vs. 2814. That's pretty good for Acura and would be about 45k units per year if those numbers hold up for the next 7 months. The numbers still don't match what the 3G TL did its first couple of years, so Acura has done better in the past.

07Acuradude

The luxury car market in general is much more competitive now. Lots more offerings to choose from.

AZuser

Comparing 1st Dec to 1st Dec sales, TLX had 227 more unit sales vs 4G TL sales (3,607 sold in Dec. 2008).

Let's see how it does in January and for the rest of the year. Will definitely be interesting.

Acura-OC

2008 was the year when economy went down the crapper S&P 500 lost 50% of its value. Dec 2014 all time high.

Can you really compare when economy is down the crapper, 30% of home owners in default vs. today's economy?

AZuser

Good point. Since the economy wasn't so good then, there were less people buying cars (i.e. TL's) during that period. But now that the economy has picked up and overall car sales have improved, TLX sales should be much much stronger than what TL sales were back then. But they're not. I wonder why.

Stew4HD

The answer has been stated over and over

Don1

We should really be comparing TLX sales to TL plus TSX sales in the past as both these models were replaced by the TLX.

smoooov

Makes no difference to me how many TLXs get sold or not. If you like the car that's all that matters. Honda/Acura is not going to go out of business anytime soon so I imagine you will be able to get it serviced for a long time. Seems some people use these stats as a barometer on the cars worthiness. It really only matters to Honda and their employees that the cars sell well.

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

who pissed in your cheerios this morning?

smoooov

No one. I'm just stating my opinion about sales stats. If you don't like it, too bad.

Stew4HD

It seems to matter to those that have no intention of buying the TLX but feel the need to continue to say, in a way "See, I told you the TLX will not sell as the 3G (or 4G)."

I don't know why it matters to them but it sure seems like it does.

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

it seems as if you're the one displeased about stats....
not I.

please try again, sir.

smoooov

That's what I mean. If you like your 4G or 3G, great, they are nice cars. That's why you bought it. Seems they are worried that a newer model may be an improvement. Geezus, I would hope it would be. Really silly.

JAB00

Middle of the pack when it comes to monthly sales for it's competitors of all brands. It's leading the pack among Japanese (IS, Q50). IMO, Nissan and Lexus current generation for the IS and Q50 are so meh. The TLX is a good start but Honda needs to quickly refine the car if it wants to maintain or increase sales.

smoooov

Seems to me you just like to start shit. Bye

012TL-GLM

Not bad, but Acura can do better - Honda's success is mind boggling, I don't understand what asshat is making decisions that are screwing Acura division so hard. Toyota finally overcame the constant comparing of Lexus vehicles to the toyota roots they were based on, why is that so difficult for Acura to accomplish.

smoooov

Because Acura doesn't have a RWD platform or a V8. Acura needs to go all AWD and incorporate turbos to increase power if they are going to compete using V6s only..similar to MB. It's been stated before that they need a higher performance model to raise their cachet. The NSX is a start but they need to also make high performance sedans as well. Of course that will increase prices so it's a tradeoff.

AZuser

And yet your comment regarding the RLX

Like you said, "If you like the car that's all that matters. Honda/Acura is not going to go out of business anytime soon so I imagine you will be able to get it serviced for a long time. Seems some people use these stats as a barometer on the cars worthiness. It really only matters to Honda and their employees that the cars sell well." Or does this only apply to the TLX?

AZuser

And for the record, by showing that the TLX outsold the TL I was trying to say it's a good thing.

Until Acura-OC brought up the recession thing.

smoooov

Really?
Acura needs to rethink the RLX if they want to compete with the germans and lexus. The RLX is their flagship and it's not going to cut it. It doesn't matter to RLX owners as they like the car. It matters to Honda though because they are in the business to make money and luxury cars make the most profit per vehicle. Also a strong luxury division influences and encourages mainstream car buying choices.

aIRpeACE

iTrader: (2)

the TLX replaces the TL & TSX. Basically that's only midsize sedan Acura offers and people have no other choices to choose but the TLX. (ILX is underpowered and RLX is overpriced)

cruiserchuck

Lexus reported sales of over 5,900 for the IS last month, far exceeding TLX sales. That is pretty impressive, considering the IS has relatively poor gas mileage, and has a really bad review from Consumer Reports.

TacoBello

Seriously? that is just about the dumbest comparison I have ever seen.

How do you compare two outgoing, end of life cycle cars, vs a brand new car? Of course the TL/TSX had low sales- no one wants a 5 year old car!!!!!

Colin

It's not the best comparison, but not the dumbest either. Just as some people don't want a 1st year car, some seek out a last year car for the proven reliability and deeper discounts. Different strokes for different folks.

TacoBello

Except that the first half of a model's sales are always higher than the second half. Just sayin'...

smoooov

And I bet 3/4 were IS250s. People want to be seen in the brand. Lexus has the cachet due to the LS460 and the GS plus the high performance versions. Acura needs to realize that.

mondster

Less sales mean more incentives and bargaining power for us buyers... im okay with that. look at the q50... almost pulled the trigger on a hybrid with nav 2 months ago since they were giving me 7.6k off msrp. Decided to wait on my lease to end and get a tlx though

Tony Pac

Interesting facts about Honda/Acura sales and success year:

Honda sales 2014: CR-V passes Civic, Accord still king, Acura TLX?s strong debut - Columbus - Columbus Business First

cheacheachea

think theyll have the same leasing incentives this coming year as they did last year for the tlx? i remember it was like 250 a month for a v6 and i shouldnt have passed on it but i waited to long... but im torn between the tlx or the accord coupe v6 manual. love my 2002 tl but the trunks not big enough and its old. folding rear seats is a game changer for me.
any input as to if i should lease one now or right before the 2016 comes out or just wait till aug?

LaCostaRacer

Wow a tough audience- believe me I have read dumber things than this in this forum.

Acura consolidated 2 cars into one car- you don't think Acura isn't looking at the sum of sales? Even acura will compare sales to gauge things better.

Agreed, a new model will have a sales surge, but Acura also had inventory issues with the i-4 and the SH-AWD was slow coming out so those models haven't had a full 5 month sales cycle either. I also agree that we'll want to hold off on a final assessment until a full years worth of sales are done.

AZuser

Acura: The Truck Brand

Tony Pac

In 2015 - their sales strategy will change. TLX will sales more than RDX, unless they release the new RDX.

My prediction in terms of sales:
MDX
TLX
RDX
ILX
RLX

MDX is rocking big time...doubt TLX can beat it.

hddnav

At the same time, not everyone wants to beta-test a first year car, either. I was quite warm and fuzzy over buying my 2013 TL the 2nd year after the MMC.

This is coming from a guy who used to beta-test Windows for pure fun. I also bought several of my previous cars brand new in their first model year, only to be met with catastrophic failures, due to issues that were only known 4 or 5 years afterwards (like turbo oil starvation due to bad design in my 2005 Subaru Outback XT).

Colin

LOL, while I cannot be sure that Taco lives under a bridge, I'm guessing he lives very close to one

Quandry

Classifying the first year of a car as beta-testing is on the harsh side. Unfortunately, cars are not like software where each one is digitally identical to all the others. Rather than the constant bashing I would like to hear some technical explanations on why some seem to be having problems while others seem to be perfect.

hddnav

I agree that it came across a little harsh. More accurately, I think how accurately the term beta-test applies to cars really depends on the reputation of the manufacturer.

In general, I'd feel fairly confident in Honda/Acura (except for the V6 transmission issues in the late 1990's and 2000's, where they were failing regardless of model year). I have utmost confidence in Toyota and Lexus. On the other hand, I have absolutely no confidence whatsoever in VW getting anything right the first year.

Even Apple regularly screws up royally on new iOS releases. Just look at iOS 8.1 and the loss of connectivity on the iPhone 6. Not what you expect from a flagship company on its flagship product.

All in all, caveat emptor.