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Old 03-23-2016, 11:50 AM
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Sport hybrid, 7 dct, please

Now that the 2017 mdx has it, im hoping that it comes to the 2017 tlx as well...

325 hp, 7dct, new suspension... id be tempted to stick to acura if this happens
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What's new specifically about the suspension? Do we know?
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It said adaptative suspension thats integrated to the ids
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The Sport Hybrid powerplant with the DCT transmission and the adjustable suspension would be a very much needed step in the right direction....
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Not likely for the 2017. Maybe on the MMC, which is the 2018.
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How about 8 speed dct plus turbo
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What's new specifically about the suspension? Do we know?
I hoping that it's similar to the magnetorheological systems used in the Civic Type R and new NSX.
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Interesting. I think the fact that the RLX, NSX and now MDX have the option it's now officially a trend. Pretty smart really - great tech that gives both MPG to satisfy the CAFE blokes and increased performance to satisfy the exposed tailpipe blokes.
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I hope the TLX will get the same (or more powerful) system too. I mean if the MDX has it, there is no reason the TLX will not.

A Type S for just under 50K. Would you buy it? Hmmm
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Heres to hoping that the tlx will get the same engine as the sport hybrid rlx. 377hp baby!!! Yeah right, dream on...
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nothing to get excited about yet - changes to powertrain are needed, but until I can drive one its just words on paper
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if there is one, it'd be around $50k. no thank you, there're a ton of better options out there for $50k.
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35hp jump in power? Wasn't the MDX at 290hp, previously?
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Originally Posted by kevTL888
if there is one, it'd be around $50k. no thank you, there're a ton of better options out there for $50k.
Such as?
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^^^ '16 refreshed GS350 for starter.
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^ um ya, not quite. You're talking about potentially a 10k difference once options are added to the GS and rightfully so and that's not even with the F package. The GS is in a different class than the TLX altogether.
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^^^ '16 refreshed GS350 for starter.
Might as well compare the TLX to the c63 while you're at it. Yeah, it's a major piece of shit then
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35hp jump in power? Wasn't the MDX at 290hp, previously?
Yup, self quoting myself here, and yup, just read through the MDX update thread. Very interesting. It'd be a cool SUV to buy, but the active suspension worries me. That's some super expensive stuff to replace if it fails, and with Acura's reliability as of late, I'd be a bit concerned. I'm not saying Acura is horrible, but it isn't what it was 10-15 years ago, that's for sure.

Adding the DCT, sport hybrid and active suspension... Shiiiiet... I wanna know the price of this, here in Canada. I'm guessing low 70s.
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Originally Posted by kevTL888
if there is one, it'd be around $50k. no thank you, there're a ton of better options out there for $50k.

Agree....the TLX is not that competitive at 40, never mind 50....

Genesis V8 (and AWD is on the way, already available of Canadian V8 Genesis), the new Q50 with turbocharged engines, the SRT Chargers (if you do not need AWD), the new Lincoln MKZ with revised and more powerful FI engines....

It will require more than a power bump to become an appealing 50 grand car.....I guess a Sport Hybrid version with some upgraded electronics and amenities, better tires and brakes and adjustable suspension has a right place in the 50K neighborhood...will it happen??

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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Yup, self quoting myself here, and yup, just read through the MDX update thread. Very interesting. It'd be a cool SUV to buy, but the active suspension worries me. That's some super expensive stuff to replace if it fails, and with Acura's reliability as of late, I'd be a bit concerned. I'm not saying Acura is horrible, but it isn't what it was 10-15 years ago, that's for sure.

Adding the DCT, sport hybrid and active suspension... Shiiiiet... I wanna know the price of this, here in Canada. I'm guessing low 70s.
I think the 2G MDX also had active suspension....IIRC.

haha yes..probably $70CAD since current MDX elite is at $65k CAD already.

But there was like a $8k incentive not too long ago? Even now, there's a $4k incentive.
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The TLX, like its predecessor, is plenty competitive at 40k in the near luxury/ entry level luxury segment.
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Originally Posted by kevTL888
if there is one, it'd be around $50k. no thank you, there're a ton of better options out there for $50k.
hmmm..i don't think it'd be $50k man.

RLX SH is $5500 more expensive than RLX FWD, trim vs trim.

Current TLX V6 FWD starts at $35k. Adding $5.5k would bring it to $40.5k. That doesn't sound that bad now, does it?

Add the SH to the TLX V6 FWD advance trim? That would then be $42.6k + $5.5k, so, $48k.
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hmmm..i don't think it'd be $50k man.

RLX SH is $5500 more expensive than RLX FWD, trim vs trim.

Current TLX V6 FWD starts at $35k. Adding $5.5k would bring it to $40.5k. That doesn't sound that bad now, does it?

Add the SH to the TLX V6 FWD advance trim? That would then be $42.6k + $5.5k, so, $48k.
RLX Hybrid also has HUD, LED fog lights, Machined finish alloys.
Almost $1500 worth of extras.
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Originally Posted by saturno_v
Agree....the TLX is not that competitive at 40, never mind 50....

Genesis V8 (and AWD is on the way, already available of Canadian V8 Genesis), the new Q50 with turbocharged engines, the SRT Chargers (if you do not need AWD), the new Lincoln MKZ with revised and more powerful FI engines....

It will require more than a power bump to become an appealing 50 grand car.....I guess a Sport Hybrid version with some upgraded electronics and amenities, better tires and brakes and adjustable suspension has a right place in the 50K neighborhood...will it happen??
Problem with turbo engines they are not very efficient. TLX will need alot of upgrade to be competitive in $50k price point. I mean add higher quality interior to hybrid package so that it can really sale for this price. not like big discounts like whats happening now.
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Problem with turbo engines they are not very efficient. TLX will need alot of upgrade to be competitive in $50k price point. I mean add higher quality interior to hybrid package so that it can really sale for this price. not like big discounts like whats happening now.

Yep...considering that even now at its current positioning, the TLX, despite its price advantage, is below mid-pack when it comes to sales number (2015 data) compared to its intended competition...pretty much the only cars that did worse among its were the decrepit outgoing Audi A4 and the compact Cadillac ATS (cramped rear seat is really damaging sales of this model)....the Q50 and the IS sold a bit less (the IS just a hair less) but combined with the other sedans of the same brand in the same category and/or price bracket (the Infiniti Q40 and the Lexus ES) their brands sold more.

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Originally Posted by saturno_v
Yep...considering that even now at its current positioning, the TLX, despite its price advantage, is below mid-pack when it comes to sales number (2015 data) compared to its intended competition...pretty much the only cars that did worse among its were the decrepit outgoing Audi A4 and the compact Cadillac ATS (cramped rear seat is really damaging sales of this model)....the Q50 and the IS sold a bit less (the IS just a hair less) but combined with the other sedans of the same brand in the same category and/or price bracket (the Infiniti Q40 and the Lexus ES) their brands sold more.
Why take into account the sales numbers of the q40 and es when they are different cars? Fact of the matter is, the tlx outsold the q50 and is. If you dont call that competitive then i wonder what youd call the q50 and is which has less sales.
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Because, troll(s).
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Problem with turbo engines they are not very efficient. TLX will need alot of upgrade to be competitive in $50k price point. I mean add higher quality interior to hybrid package so that it can really sale for this price. not like big discounts like whats happening now.
Once again, you've proven to everyone that you're an idiot. Turbo engines are extremely efficient, allowing engines to produce 150hp/L, if not more. A naturally aspirated engine can't even come close to that.
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Originally Posted by saturno_v
Yep...considering that even now at its current positioning, the TLX, despite its price advantage, is below mid-pack when it comes to sales number (2015 data) compared to its intended competition...pretty much the only cars that did worse among its were the decrepit outgoing Audi A4 and the compact Cadillac ATS (cramped rear seat is really damaging sales of this model)....the Q50 and the IS sold a bit less (the IS just a hair less) but combined with the other sedans of the same brand in the same category and/or price bracket (the Infiniti Q40 and the Lexus ES) their brands sold more.
Dude, just give it up. No matter what you say, Acura isn't going anywhere, and they are selling more and more vehicles. No, they haven't surpassed some of their past records, but they are improving. What more do you want? I'm sure the infinity forums would value your opinion more, rather than you shitting on everyone's cereal, here.
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
Problem with turbo engines they are not very efficient. TLX will need alot of upgrade to be competitive in $50k price point. I mean add higher quality interior to hybrid package so that it can really sale for this price. not like big discounts like whats happening now.
I'm sorry? Turbo engines are not efficient? Have you been living in a rock for the past several years? Check what type of engines F1 is using for the past couple years. Check the engines most european car companies have been using for the last decade. And while you find out what engines they are using, might as well find out why they've been using 'those' kind of engines.
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Why take into account the sales numbers of the q40 and es when they are different cars? Fact of the matter is, the tlx outsold the q50 and is. If you dont call that competitive then i wonder what youd call the q50 and is which has less sales.

As a matter of fact they are the same car under the skin, same class, same engine, same transmission...the Q40 was the previous G37 rebadged and offered at a lower price ($6K off)....we will see how the Q50 will do alone with the new turbo engines this year, the 2 liter turbo four will be offered at a lower price taking the place of the Q40.

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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Dude, just give it up. No matter what you say, Acura isn't going anywhere,
Who said that Acura is going away?? They are not going anywhere in sedan land for sure but they are much more competitive in SUV land.
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Originally Posted by edmua6
I'm sorry? Turbo engines are not efficient? Have you been living in a rock for the past several years? Check what type of engines F1 is using for the past couple years. Check the engines most european car companies have been using for the last decade. And while you find out what engines they are using, might as well find out why they've been using 'those' kind of engines.
Accord V6 and 4 cylinder are more fuel efficient/reliable than Turbo Hyundais or BMW etc.
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Once again, you've proven to everyone that you're an idiot. Turbo engines are extremely efficient, allowing engines to produce 150hp/L, if not more. A naturally aspirated engine can't even come close to that.
why 290bhp MDX is faster than Volvo XC90 with 318bhp.
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The ultimate troll.

Sure, everybody that does not think the TLX is great is a troll....so logic and so true...
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The mdx went to 3.0 v6... for the TLX, they ought to bump it back to 3.5 and put the HP at 350 even...

With the DCT and E-SH AWD, I would be a buyer....
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why 290bhp MDX is faster than Volvo XC90 with 318bhp.
Because it weighs more, dummy. For fuck sakes
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Originally Posted by saturno_v
Who said that Acura is going away?? They are not going anywhere in sedan land for sure but they are much more competitive in SUV land.
Right, we get it. You hate the TLX. I don't see why you have to come in to TLX land and consistently piss in every TLX owner's cereal. You've made your point. We know you don't like the car and/or brand, time to move on. You're not changing any current owner's opinion on their car
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