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Old Jun 30, 2015 | 09:17 PM
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Range Remaining Observation

I have 3 tanks of my normal mix of in-town/rural highway driving. The MPG display is very consistent through these 3 tanks reading 24.8 - 25.1 MPG.


The oddity is that my initial expected range on a tankful (ie. 50 miles driven and range 380 = 430 miles total) decreases as the tank empties such that by the time I'm at 300 miles driven, my range will now be 75 miles = 375 miles total).


Again, there this no change of the MPG reported, so the difference is somewhat puzzling.. Has anyone else noticed similar experience??
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Old Jul 1, 2015 | 05:25 AM
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The range remaining number seems to fluctuate based upon a mixture of your previous trips with some weighting from your *current trip* MPG rating.

For instance - I'll pull out of the garage and it could say 300 miles remaining (based upon my tank MPG rating of 34) - then after I drive on the highway for a bit and my current trip MPG gets up near 40 the range will change to 375.

It would be interesting to hear from Honda/Acura on how they derive that number and what sort of Al Gore-ithm they use. The manual doesn't really say much.
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Old Jul 1, 2015 | 09:56 PM
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I certainly presume some weighted-averaging methodology and fluctuation with significantly varying MPG conditions.
That's what confuses me - the MPG variance over the last three tanks has been < .5 MPG...I was expecting a fairly linear transition from miles driven to remaining range...
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Old Jul 2, 2015 | 07:04 AM
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at Al Gore-ithm
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Old Jul 2, 2015 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by wyliec2
I certainly presume some weighted-averaging methodology and fluctuation with significantly varying MPG conditions.
That's what confuses me - the MPG variance over the last three tanks has been < .5 MPG...I was expecting a fairly linear transition from miles driven to remaining range...
Ah - I don't know that it looks at the MPG from previous tanks to calculate the current figure. My assumption was it just looks at the current tank and the current trip - but who really knows. I know on long highway trips it's definitely linear and I would guess fairly accurate. When you mix highway and city driving it's going to fluctuate.

It's funny because my wife thinks it's a real number ("I still have 40 miles to go!") so I have to always remind her that it's a best guess approximation and that if she runs out of gas I'm not coming to save her!
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Old Jul 2, 2015 | 07:57 AM
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I know that most modern Acura's have a 3 gallon reserve when the computer says 0.

a dummy light, if you will.
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Old Jul 2, 2015 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CheeseyPoofs McNut
Ah - I don't know that it looks at the MPG from previous tanks to calculate the current figure. My assumption was it just looks at the current tank and the current trip - but who really knows. I know on long highway trips it's definitely linear and I would guess fairly accurate. When you mix highway and city driving it's going to fluctuate.

It's funny because my wife thinks it's a real number ("I still have 40 miles to go!") so I have to always remind her that it's a best guess approximation and that if she runs out of gas I'm not coming to save her!
I suspect you're right about how this works. It has always been interesting for me to watch this. The total range (expected range + miles driven on the tank of gas) can fluctuate as much as 100 miles at the beginning of a new tank. My range normally starts out at a little over 400 but drops quickly as I drive around town. But if I immediately start a trip, the range can jump up to 500 - 550 and then drop 50 - 75 miles as I go over a mountain pass only to go up again on the down side. As others have said, you need to take the "Range" number as only an approximation.
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Old Jul 3, 2015 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
I know that most modern Acura's have a 3 gallon reserve when the computer says 0.

a dummy light, if you will.
I always wondered how much was left in the tank when the low fuel light comes on because I never seem to put the full amount of the tank in when I fill it up. I assumed approx. 2 gallons because when my light comes on I normally only put about 15.5 in to fill it up.
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Old Jul 3, 2015 | 09:58 PM
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The main point of three tanks is that I've shown consistent averages throughout the entire tank and each time experienced the same shift from an initial 450+ mile projection to high-300's by the time I'm under a quarter of a tank remaining.
I continue to be surprised at my mileage...I did a >300 mile trip with much of it slightly over the 80 mph speed limit and the displayed average was 33.9 mpg!!!
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