New Acura web ad: TLX vs. 330i
#81
100% confirmed. Booked an appointment for today for minor speaker trim recall and deckled sub vibration. Asked last week and got rental car without any problems.
At Acura have to ask weeks in advance to reserve one. Audi also called me to say they're keeping A4 to make sure vibration is gone, Acura just brushed it off and had to fix it myself on 12 TL for notorious deckled rattle.
At Acura have to ask weeks in advance to reserve one. Audi also called me to say they're keeping A4 to make sure vibration is gone, Acura just brushed it off and had to fix it myself on 12 TL for notorious deckled rattle.
#82
It's a free forum and everyone has the right to express their point of view but I am 100% with you. If you hate or dislike Acura so much, why even spend a second here. If I was him, I would go and help my fellow Audi buyers and not just post random messages on Acura, Lexus, Honda or Toyota's forum.
Pyrodan007 - this is not a personal attack or disrespect but you are not contributing at all....even your feedback is bashing Acura.
Pyrodan007 - this is not a personal attack or disrespect but you are not contributing at all....even your feedback is bashing Acura.
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#83
It's a free forum and everyone has the right to express their point of view but I am 100% with you. If you hate or dislike Acura so much, why even spend a second here. If I was him, I would go and help my fellow Audi buyers and not just post random messages on Acura, Lexus, Honda or Toyota's forum.
Pyrodan007 - this is not a personal attack or disrespect but you are not contributing at all....even your feedback is bashing Acura.
Pyrodan007 - this is not a personal attack or disrespect but you are not contributing at all....even your feedback is bashing Acura.
You think I force members here to go to Audi? They know for themselves lol.
Look around at this forum, members are changing ship. When someone comes on this board and talks about mods there is about zero feedback received. Says a lot about where the brand is going. Stupid ads like the ones mentioned in this thread don't help either. It's not a complaint for you either, but I'm getting tired of all the get out comments here....
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#84
It's a free forum and everyone has the right to express their point of view but I am 100% with you. If you hate or dislike Acura so much, why even spend a second here. If I was him, I would go and help my fellow Audi buyers and not just post random messages on Acura, Lexus, Honda or Toyota's forum.
Pyrodan007 - this is not a personal attack or disrespect but you are not contributing at all....even your feedback is bashing Acura.
Pyrodan007 - this is not a personal attack or disrespect but you are not contributing at all....even your feedback is bashing Acura.
Honestly, once you start dragging the 3 series and the A4 into the TLX section, we show up. Most of us have tried or owned both.
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#85
Every forum I have ever been on has trolls or haters or whatever they are called these days.
Some opinions count more than others and some opinions don't count at all. I have found that the best practice is to identify and ignore.
Some opinions count more than others and some opinions don't count at all. I have found that the best practice is to identify and ignore.
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Shadow2056 (02-28-2018)
#87
Sorry. The dual screens isn't a great selling point. I wasn't much of a fan of them. My customers don't like it too much either. They say it's confusing. That's why Honda went down to the one screen on all their vehicles. Seen those videos. I love watching comparison videos. But when they're unbiased. The BMW kinda iggs me. It's supposed to be a sporty/luxury brand but the sunroof is optional. As well as remote start. Acura doesn't either. Cars like the Honda Accord come with it standard. When you spend all that money on a luxury/sport vehicle, you should be getting features that come standard on them that the "economy" counterparts don't have standard. Accord Touring has navigation, remote start, heated/ventilated seats, and Honda Sensing standard. Whereas the TLX, you have to add the Tech package in order to get any of that. Which is another $3k.
Putting them all together. The Accord Touring, you're sitting at $35-36k.
The BMW, with the same package, $44,265. Extra $20 for a USB charger -_- Wtc?
The Acura at a whopping $47,403. That's with the Tech and Advance package in order to compare with the Accord Touring.
Sorry. The next Acuras have lost my interest. For $10k less, I can have all those features and don't have to run 93. Yes. I know it's the name you're paying for. Idk about the rest of yall. I hate that grille on the new TLX. It's hideous. The RLX is even worse. I need Acura to go back to the drawing board. They MIGHT be able to save the TLX with the possibility of the turbo A-Spec they should have in 2019. But I hope they change that grille....
Putting them all together. The Accord Touring, you're sitting at $35-36k.
The BMW, with the same package, $44,265. Extra $20 for a USB charger -_- Wtc?
The Acura at a whopping $47,403. That's with the Tech and Advance package in order to compare with the Accord Touring.
Sorry. The next Acuras have lost my interest. For $10k less, I can have all those features and don't have to run 93. Yes. I know it's the name you're paying for. Idk about the rest of yall. I hate that grille on the new TLX. It's hideous. The RLX is even worse. I need Acura to go back to the drawing board. They MIGHT be able to save the TLX with the possibility of the turbo A-Spec they should have in 2019. But I hope they change that grille....
#88
Putting them all together. The Accord Touring, you're sitting at $35-36k.
The BMW, with the same package, $44,265. Extra $20 for a USB charger -_- Wtc?
The Acura at a whopping $47,403. That's with the Tech and Advance package in order to compare with the Accord Touring.
The BMW, with the same package, $44,265. Extra $20 for a USB charger -_- Wtc?
The Acura at a whopping $47,403. That's with the Tech and Advance package in order to compare with the Accord Touring.
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#89
#91
The talk about dealership experiences is anecdotal as well. Owned an Audi for 8+ years, a BMW for 6+ yrs, Acuras, and a Lexus. My local dealership experiences for the BMW, and Audi haven't been the best, and the BMW was the worst by far. Lexus corporate seems to have the closest oversight of local dealerships to keep their customers happy.
You guys saying how great Audi service always is must not have spent that much time on Audizine, etc. Plenty of posts of horrible dealer experiences there, and of course those dealer experiences vary greatly at each independently owned franchise. I live in NY/LI and have never taken my RS4 in for routine service at any of the local dealerships; warranty fixes only, and the few times I did do other service at the same visit, I regretted it.
Several friends in the local car club have the same policy, and many have had to have several conversations with AoA to get movement for problems which weren't handled properly. A buddy with an S6 is having issues with a dealership who did a warranty job incorrectly, and is calling AoA to trying to get them to fix their shoddy work as the dealer is saying the "campaign ended". A friend of a friend is currently fighting with the dealer over his S5 which was returned with a damaged clutch after service for an alignment. His dashcam captured video showing the tech revving the piss out of the car, and obviously slipping the clutch as he was driving it around the lot and into the service bays.
On any car forum horrible service experiences are a dime a dozen
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#92
If I can offer my humble opinion here... As it pertains to cars, the heart likes what the heart likes. That includes grills, screens, seats, exhausts, etc. etc. However, I think some of us have a problem when people feel the need to trash other options to, perhaps, somehow support their own choice. Or not like an option a feature in a way that suggests it must be changed, that their opinion is the one that truly matters. Or suggest that a particular characteristic is desired by most, when objectively, it really isn't. I think if we stick to constructive and, wherever possible, fact based opinions, and if when expressing opinions about our likes and dislikes, we do so in a respectful manner, then we may find the forum more pleasant and useful, for both Acura fans and those who have less than warm and fuzzy experiences. My two and a half cents.
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#93
You are quoting the Advanced SHawd price, not apples to apples, that Accord Navi screen is ugly and looks out of place, the grills are subjective, I really like the new TLX grill, the Accord not so much. You should be comparing the TLX Tech to the Accord 1.5t EXL or Touring which is a more comparable comparison. I have just cross shopped them both and bought the TLX, it felt plusher, looks better drove better IMO and I will take the NA high revving motor and dct any day over the 1.5t and CVT. You need to drive them both, not just compare specs. All things considered the TLX was the better choice for ME.
#94
Well that's what it's about. What you yourself like. You can do 1.5t vs the 2.4 but when you start adding things on the Advanced Package, you have to move up to the V6 on the TLX. Whereas on the Accord, the same things that the 1.5 have you can find on the 2.0t. The only difference between the two is the motor and transmission.
#97
Don't get me wrong. The TLX is a nice car. Hate that grille but love the rest of it. Just for the price, I'd pick the Accord. I can run 87, still have great power, and all the features I want for $10k less. The 2015 model looks better as far as the front end goes.
#98
I really don't like that A6 interior. I think the exterior is gorgeous. But the interior does nothing for me. It makes me think it belongs in a Kia or something, with that black shiny stereo surround with the silver outline, on the dash. And the fingerprints and smudges that will inevitably end up all over that shiny black plastic, make me cringe. Bleh.
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#99
You just answered your own question...."DURING WARRANTY PERIOD" what about cost of ownership past warranty period? Not everyone can afford to buy brand new car and use it only during the warranty period. The question is if you keep you care for 7-10 years. then what happens?
not a problem for me.
#100
Well my E90 was a POS mechanically.
Engine head opened under warranty because of clattering. Started again at 80000 miles.
Head gasket replaced under warranty. Needed to be replace again along with the valve cover at my expense.
Rear differential was noisy. $3600 to repair, they finally 'good willed' at $1800. I declined and lived with it.
Whole sunroof cartridge completely replaced.
1 pint of oil per 1200 miles since new.
Creakings all around the cockpit.
Oil leak around the oil filter housing.
Coolant pump and thermostat... a $1000 job.
Those are only the mechanical (mostly)... you don't want to know about the rest.... My E46 was MUCH more reliable (I changed only the control arms in 45000 miles).
My TLX has been perfect for 27 months, save for that rocky driver seat, declared 'normal'.
Engine head opened under warranty because of clattering. Started again at 80000 miles.
Head gasket replaced under warranty. Needed to be replace again along with the valve cover at my expense.
Rear differential was noisy. $3600 to repair, they finally 'good willed' at $1800. I declined and lived with it.
Whole sunroof cartridge completely replaced.
1 pint of oil per 1200 miles since new.
Creakings all around the cockpit.
Oil leak around the oil filter housing.
Coolant pump and thermostat... a $1000 job.
Those are only the mechanical (mostly)... you don't want to know about the rest.... My E46 was MUCH more reliable (I changed only the control arms in 45000 miles).
My TLX has been perfect for 27 months, save for that rocky driver seat, declared 'normal'.
The M3 i has 0 issues with. The E87 was a 2009 and had HPFP replaced (under warranty), and other than that 0. The E87 was Berger tuned stage 3. After 29k miles was traded back to the dealer and still alive today (per carfax it’s now 80k miles and in Sacramento). I had no problem with the E87.
The issue I had was as follows
2001 530i ESS S/C- no issues at all
2003 E39 M5 I had problem with o-ring and replaced under wareanty
2001 E46 M3- the moonroof cover broke and hit my head.
2006 E60 M5- has recall for oil line and steering angle sensor died. That was it.
2008 M3- nothing was wrong
2009 135i- HPFP recall
2011 328i- no issues
2012 328i- no issues went to heaven thanks to my teen daughter
2013 M5- the driver assistance plus camera failed, and from time to time my BT would hang. No issues
2015 M3- no issues
2018 530e- no issues
92 accord- no issue
92 accord wagon- bought and restored in 2013 with 262 k miles.
94 accord- new, sunroof track damage, AC compressor burnt out, build up of water from AC, warped brakes
98 accord V6- transmission problem and bad brakes
00 TL wasn’t good. Bad brakes and transmission
07 odyssey- lousy gas mileage, bad brakes
2014 Accord plug in- brakes was bad, issues with 12V system causing early demise of the 12V battery.
To be honest- my shitty Ford C-Max energi commuter at 54k miles was trouble free- zero repair other than replacing the outdated 2G modem for LTE one. This is a surprise for me.
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#101
Im still in love iwth my 2012 TL SH-AWD advanced.
3.7 V6 305HP.
Its faster. It feels more solid. and it looks freakin awesome.
I dont need two screens, wireless charging or LED headlights. All I need is the high i get form simply driving my car.
3.7 V6 305HP.
Its faster. It feels more solid. and it looks freakin awesome.
I dont need two screens, wireless charging or LED headlights. All I need is the high i get form simply driving my car.
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#102
Love the look of the 2012. Not too fond of the issues I've heard about the 3.7 eating camshafts(a friend of mine has had to have 2 of them replaced within a 2 month's time). Some have found with a tune, it ends the oil consumption problem that causes that. I don't know tho. I'm just going by what I've heard from the owners.
#103
Love the look of the 2012. Not too fond of the issues I've heard about the 3.7 eating camshafts(a friend of mine has had to have 2 of them replaced within a 2 month's time). Some have found with a tune, it ends the oil consumption problem that causes that. I don't know tho. I'm just going by what I've heard from the owners.
Its a beautiful car...its a beautiful drive.
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