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The 2016 Q50's are rolling out so they must be blowing out the 2015's. The last month was 3,364.
TLX numbers are okay. They need to get their MMC out sooner than later and get far away from that ^%$#@ ZF transmission. Mine is getting more and more annoying to me.
I was shocked to see Q50's numbers but it's very simple (at least in Canada).
My colleague had a EX35 (2.5 years old) another 1.5 year left on his lease. Monthly lease payment $502. Dealer called and offered him a 2016 QX50 for $450 per month. The new model has sunroof and bluetooth. I wouldn't refuse a 2016 QX50 for $450. C'mon...My cousin pays $500 for fully loaded Passat.
Infiniti's sales are inflated by offering crazy incentives. I am happy with TLX numbers They just need to come up with MMC and sales will pick up. Acura already has reasonable prices for the value they offer.
This is happening in Canada, not sure about the U.S
I was shocked to see Q50's numbers but it's very simple (at least in Canada).
My colleague had a EX35 (2.5 years old) another 1.5 year left on his lease. Monthly lease payment $502. Dealer called and offered him a 2016 QX50 for $450 per month. The new model has sunroof and bluetooth. I wouldn't refuse a 2016 QX50 for $450. C'mon...My cousin pays $500 for fully loaded Passat.
Infiniti's sales are inflated by offering crazy incentives. I am happy with TLX numbers They just need to come up with MMC and sales will pick up. Acura already has reasonable prices for the value they offer.
This is happening in Canada, not sure about the U.S
The Infiniti has so little to do with Acura at this point. Acura's biggest enemies are its other car offerings. The next gen Legend/RL/RLX successor needs to be a home run for Acura to take a step forward.
Honestly, if it weren't for Mr. Nissan and his Maxima love, we wouldn't be talking about Infiniti in the same sentence.
The Infiniti has so little to do with Acura at this point. Acura's biggest enemies are its other car offerings. The next gen Legend/RL/RLX successor needs to be a home run for Acura to take a step forward.
Honestly, if it weren't for Mr. Nissan and his Maxima love, we wouldn't be talking about Infiniti in the same sentence.
NEW YORK -- Nissan wants to sell more of its vehicles into fleets in the U.S. -- but not in the way its chief competitor recently accused it of operating.
Nissan is looking for new opportunities in profitable commercial fleets, not daily rental fleets, said Jose Munoz, chairman of Nissan North America.
Munoz defended Nissan's strategy during this month's New York auto show, in response to public criticism from John Mendel, executive vice president of American Honda Motor Co. Mendel charged that Nissan's rising U.S. sales volumes came from pushing more vehicles into rental fleets.
In the first quarter, Nissan brand's sales rose 3.1 percent to 333,786 vehicles, while Honda brand sales rose 2.4 percent to 294,299. U.S. new light-vehicle sales rose 5.6 percent.
Munoz noted that Nissan's overall fleet business declined 17 percent in March from a year earlier and 3.6 percent in the first quarter of this year from the year-earlier quarter.
"Of course, we need to be active in fleet," Munoz said during the New York show. "In fleet, you have a lot of subsegments. You have the rental, which is not very profitable. And then you have the commercial fleet, which is where we are focusing."
Munoz said Nissan's commercial fleet sales have grown 60 percent so far this year, even as its daily fleet sales have declined.
Daily rental fleet sales to companies such as Hertz and Enterprise are traditionally conducted directly by automakers. In contrast, the commercial fleet business is handled by dealers and caters to businesses that purchase multiple vehicles at the same time. Nissan said the segment has been profitable for its retailers and has helped increase brand awareness among business owners.
In the past few years, Nissan has positioned itself for more commercial business in the U.S. In early 2013, it introduced the NV200, a compact van that is marketed as a delivery vehicle and for small business applications.
Munoz said that Nissan's own fleet-retail sales mix will likely remain constant over time. But he emphasized that it is not the reason Nissan's U.S. sales volume has been increasing.
"I wouldn't say fleet is the driver," he said. "We've grown, by far, more on retail than on fleet."
370 and GT-R dont have that deep technololgical level like NSX or Civic Type-R. Nissan is after sales volume and short term profits not concerned with resale value for consumers.
The topspeed that easily go to 280km/hr+ on tall hatch with handling that exceed RWD/AWD counterparts with fuel economy greater than 30mpg in daily driving without need for DSG transmission.
Long-term test review: Honda Civic Type R | Auto Express
A wet and windy Castle Combe in Wiltshire played host, but even in the biblical conditions, the Type R ploughed on unfazed. The first thing you notice about the Honda is just how much traction it manages to find - even when it looked like a canal boat would have a better chance of setting a lap time in the conditions we faced.
370 and GT-R dont have that deep technololgical level like NSX or Civic Type-R. Nissan is after sales volume and short term profits not concerned with resale value for consumers.
The topspeed that easily go to 280km/hr+ on tall hatch with handling that exceed RWD/AWD counterparts with fuel economy greater than 30mpg in daily driving without need for DSG transmission.
I'm a fan of Honda but to say that Nissan has not built very high tech cars is simply not true......Nissan has been building sport cars before Honda for once.....the 350Z/370Z were not meant to compete with a NSX and they were a damn excellent sport car for the price when they were new.
Let's not forget the Skyline series and the Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo one of the hottest GT of the early 1990s
The GT-R was a technological marvel when appeared in 2009.....
If youre comparing sales due to popularity in the masses, then you dont consider fleet sales.
Clearly, the infiniti/nissan lover wanted to piss on the tlx by showing that the maxima is selling more
The other competitors sales figures mentioned include fleet sales as well...I added the Maxima only because it was missing as a competitor and it is a competitor.
""Munoz defended Nissan's strategy during this month's New York auto show, in response to public criticism from John Mendel, executive vice president of American Honda Motor Co. Mendel charged that Nissan's rising U.S. sales volumes came from pushing more vehicles into rental fleets.""
Interesting it was the Honda guy whining. Sounds like sour grapes by the guy who came in second.
Would have been smarter for him to say nothing or classier to have said congrats on round one.
I'm a fan of Honda but to say that Nissan has not built very high tech cars is simply not true......Nissan has been building sport cars before Honda for once.....the 350Z/370Z were not meant to compete with a NSX and they were a damn excellent sport car for the price when they were new.
Let's not forget the Skyline series and the Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo one of the hottest GT of the early 1990s
The GT-R was a technological marvel when appeared in 2009.....
thats what i point out Civic Type R is competitor to 370Z. Civic Type R has the most comfortable seats.
Nissan did made high tech cars but they are not advanced at Honda level when you look at whole package with all criterias taken into consideration.
Take RDX example. 0-120 mph in 26.8 seconds and still get 23mpg on C&D tests from 6speed auto on all season setup with 8inch ground clearance. 2016 Acura RDX AWD Instrumented Test ? Review ? Car and Driver
RDX with 7DCT auto, DI engine, SH-AWD traction will demolish competition.
The application of technology and aerodynamics from Honda is second to none.
Think I am missing something but is it a fact that the RDX has none of these things.
If so maybe this is just a wish list thing like if they stuck in a StingRay 455hp engine it would be really really fast?
thats why i said that RDX still does not have best of Honda technologies but still its very competent in several criterias in its class.
its not like BMW where same engines and transmission are shared across the line up.
thats what i point out Civic Type R is competitor to 370Z. Civic Type R has the most comfortable seats.
Nissan did made high tech cars but they are not advanced at Honda level when you look at whole package with all criterias taken into consideration.
Take RDX example. 0-120 mph in 26.8 seconds and still get 23mpg on C&D tests from 6speed auto on all season setup with 8inch ground clearance. 2016 Acura RDX AWD Instrumented Test ? Review ? Car and Driver
RDX with 7DCT auto, DI engine, SH-AWD traction will demolish competition.
The application of technology and aerodynamics from Honda is second to none.
The 370Z and the Civic Type R are definitely not competitors.
Acura SUVs are indeed very good...too bad the TLX is very disappointing as a sport sedan.
Again, the GT-R tech has no inferiority complex compared to any Honda short of the new NSX.
thats why i said that RDX still does not have best of Honda technologies but still its very competent in several criterias in its class. .
The C&D article you quote said overall the RDX was pretty average with long stopping distances, numb steering, poor transient responses, lots of body roll & low skid pad numbers.
They summed up the RDX with:
for the owner who prioritizes quiet comfort and luxurious appointments over driving enjoyment.
The 370Z and the Civic Type R are definitely not competitors.
Acura SUVs are indeed very good...too bad the TLX is very disappointing as a sport sedan.
Again, the GT-R tech has no inferiority complex compared to any Honda short of the new NSX.
One thing i am going to assure you if honda create $100k sports car. it will be much more reliable, refined and fuel economic than GT-R. Nissan simply cant compete in all criterias. thats the reason the Accord V6 touring is faster/fuel efficient than Maxima despite using all season tires. Nissan falls short in more criterias.
Honda does not need to be built in Japan to beat Nissan built in Japan.
The C&D article you quote said overall the RDX was pretty average with long stopping distances, numb steering, poor transient responses, lots of body roll & low skid pad numbers.
They summed up the RDX with:
for the owner who prioritizes quiet comfort and luxurious appointments over driving enjoyment.
it has to do with tires and lack of SH-AWD. it still exceedingly fast and fuel efficient with high ground clearance and $5k cheaper than competition. if they upgrade it with $5k worth of investment. it will solove all its shortcomings.
it has to do with tires and lack of SH-AWD. it still exceedingly fast and fuel efficient with high ground clearance and $5k cheaper than competition. if they upgrade it with $5k worth of investment. it will solove all its shortcomings.
And if pigs could fly. You have any idea how many cars could be a lot better with just $5K more?
The RDX is what it is & its an OK small SUV & that's all it is. They are not going to put SHAWD in it because they just released this version as the new UPGRADED model & the tires are helping with the EPA mileage numbers.
It might be quick for its group, but as the article said the car has no soul. Read that as its a boring ride.
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And if pigs could fly. You have any idea how many cars could be a lot better with just $5K more?
The RDX is what it is & its an OK small SUV & that's all it is. They are not going to put SHAWD in it because they just released this version as the new UPGRADED model & the tires are helping with the EPA mileage numbers.
It might be quick for its group, but as the article said the car has no soul. Read that as its a boring ride.
RDX competitors are already $5k more expensive. its RDX that needs $5k worth of improvements to surpass competition in all criterias.
I love the rdx look but wasn't impressed by the specs.
Other luxury compact SUVs has a turbo engine and eight speed transmission
I ended up staying with sedan and got my tlx last year
I also was invited to a Lexus nx event and liked that car but 6 speed transmission turned me off
I think the 8 speed is key for fuel economy and acceleration
When I see 6 speed it is like most other cars and might as well drive a regular car
Unlike you, I actually feel 6 speed is perfect and the sweet spot for fuel economy and acceleration. It is smooth and has no gear hunting or downshift hesitation like the 8 speed.
Mark me down as thinking the 6 speed is pretty damn nice.
I have a 16 RDX and it feels a lot like my 3rd gen TL did. On the other hand, I also have a 16 TLX with the 8 speed DCT and 1st to 2nd is so jerky and it takes forever to get into a lower gear if I decide to push on the throttle a little bit.
I have a 6-spd RDX and 8-spd TLX in the garage. The RDX is very, very smooth and the TLX has improved greatly after a software upgrade or two ("hidden" in another couple of unrelated updates I have to believe). Low-speed jerkiness is about gone. The 10 mpg advantage in the TLX isn't all smaller frontal area and weight but in the smaller engine and 8-spd DCT I would assume.
04-01-2016, 08:25 PM
They just need to come up with MMC and sales will pick up. Acura already has reasonable prices for the value they offer. 
And so it continues, welcome to the CAGE. 
